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lowflyingpenguin

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PostSubject: Deer Tongue   Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:33 am

I recall that years ago I could get tobacco blended up here that had deer tongue in it. I hadn't seen blends with it it for some time (perhaps I wasn't looking in the right places?) . I recently ordered a small amount of a blend with it from 4noggins as a change of pace from my regular v/p rotations. I have been noticing a lot of chatter about the coumarin content and issues with it by the FDA. Anyone know much about this? Is the deer tongue a spice that will ghost my pipes and should I dedicate pipes to my "test" run?
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:37 am

along the same lines...what the hell is deer tongue?
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:08 am

bruins wrote:
along the same lines...what the hell is deer tongue?


As I understand it, deer tongue is a wild growing plant that adds a vanilla flavor to tobacco.
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:24 am

Was quite confused so a sec, thanks for the clarification!
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:18 am

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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:20 am

Ahh...gotcha
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:30 am

Deertongue will ghost your pipe, I'm somewhat fond of Capitol Stairs (Hearth and Home) and Crooner (Cornell and diehl) and you can smell the deertongue and taste it on pipes evan after a good cleaning.
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:33 pm

I learn something new here every day!!! cheers cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:38 pm

LV9 wrote:
Deertongue will ghost your pipe, I'm somewhat fond of Capitol Stairs (Hearth and Home) and Crooner (Cornell and diehl) and you can smell the deertongue and taste it on pipes evan after a good cleaning.

Cheers for the info! I'll use a couple of cobs I have until I determine that I want to sacrifice any of my meerschaums or briars.
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:59 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:18 pm

Falconer wrote:

If that's whats in my Crooner, the flower bed gets the rest! lol! lol! lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:54 pm

Damn Valky, your'e a Legend bro!!!! How the hell is that for a pic!!!
Looks Like Broom's after all that plumbcake you gave him
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PostSubject: Deer Tongue    Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:22 am

I think it is a bit late to collect that plant here.. I shall make it a point to wander in the many pine forests here next year.. I will collect a good amount and dry it out good and see if I can blend some in the proper type of tobacco and let it age.. This will take some time but it may be worth the try.. Thanks for the post info.. cheers
Chuck..
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:37 pm

I'm surprised that there isn't a more extensive use of other plant material for flavoring instead of just extracts. There's a lot of smokable goodies out there that could lend awesome flavors to our leaf or even tobacco free pipe blends.
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:37 pm

Crooner was my favorite, summertime cube burly for years. Then I got one bad batch of it (it happens) and haven't smoked it in perhaps 8 to 10 years. I need to give it a spin again next spring when the temps warm up. I thought that bit of deer tongue added a nice "tang" and subtle sweetness to the cubed burly.

The one downside to Crooner, and I find this with a couple of the Uhle's blends as well, is when you mix cube cut burly that burns slow to any kind of flake cut, the flake cut burns up quickly and I have little half-burned burly balls buried in the ash at the bottom of the bowl. It doesn't ruin the whole smoke, but I seem to prefer that the components of the tobacco be of a somewhat similar cut and size so they burn in unison. Just a minor annoyance for me, but something I've noticed with these mix blends. With Crooner I found that the deer tongue was rather noticeable early in the bowl, but disappeared by half way through. This cut/burn differential might be an explanation?

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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:00 am

ZeroContent wrote:
I'm surprised that there isn't a more extensive use of other plant material for flavoring instead of just extracts. There's a lot of smokable goodies out there that could lend awesome flavors to our leaf or even tobacco free pipe blends.

You know it is funny that you say this- I thought about the same thing last week -why don't more pipe tobaccos use mint or bay or rosemary or pine or smoke fat even? It just seems to me that we could at least have a wild variability here, don't you?

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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:12 am

ZeroContent wrote:
I'm surprised that there isn't a more extensive use of other plant material for flavoring instead of just extracts. There's a lot of smokable goodies out there that could lend awesome flavors to our leaf or even tobacco free pipe blends.

Deer tongue.
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Wed May 04, 2011 1:03 am

Ok... much of the information here on BoB is helpful and inspiring. It drives me to seek out more knowledge..Intrigued I set out to Google "Deer Tongue".

http://herb-magic.com/deers-tongue.html Rolling Eyes

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2305756 Shocked

Two very wrong turns on the information super highway. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Wed May 04, 2011 3:42 pm

My Gold Nugget Mixture from 4noggins has about 10% deer tongue in it.
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:41 pm

Good stuff Falconer! LMAO!


lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:55 pm

My favorite deer tongue blend is H&H Old Tartan from Pipes and Cigars. I have also tried C&D's Crooner but found it so hard to keep lit that I didn't care to smoke it anymore.

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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:41 pm

If anyone decides to gather wild deer tongue, dry it completely, and use a food chpper to turn it into very small flakes. When adding it to a blend, start by using 3-5%, up to about 10-12.5%, and make sure to mix it very well with your tobacco of choice. It really isn't meant to be sprinkled on top of a bowl, as it will turn bitter. While many folks sait tastes somewhat like vanilla, other only get an herbal sence.

As for Crooner, All cube cuts contain a lot of hidden, inner moisture. You need to dry it quite a bit for it to stay lit. And you'll need to use the gravity fill method.
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:11 pm

John, thanks for the advice on Crooner. I did use the gravity fill method but did not dry it out, which is probably where my problem lies. I'll have to give it a try next time I smoke it.

Smokey
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:45 am

Being near the great North Woods of Wisconsin, I pictured you guys chopping up bits of venison and blending it with your favorite tobacco! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Deer Tongue   Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:40 pm

Guys,

If you are looking for a damn good virginia blend with Deer Tongue in it, try out Ted's Pipe Shoppes "Virginia Blend". I highly recommend it. Below is a link to a review on it:

http://tobaccoreviews.com/blend_detail.cfm?ALPHA=V&TID=3428

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