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Buck
Number of posts: 468
Registration date: 2008-12-17
| | Subject: 2.5m-year-old tobacco found in Peru Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:50 am | |
| http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/25myearold-tobacco-found-in-peru-20101120-181om.html |
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puros_bran
Nightrider
Number of posts: 9207
Registration date: 2007-12-10
| | Subject: Re: 2.5m-year-old tobacco found in Peru Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:54 am | |
| | Quote: | This discovery allows us to establish that the plant dates back to the Pleistocene Era, and confirms that it originated in northern Peru," the museum said in a statement.
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Unless me discovering 2 week old pizza in my fridge proved that pizza originated in Kentucky, Corelation does not prove causation Mr Museum...
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Frost
Number of posts: 2206
Age: 34
Location: Somewhere near Philly, PA
Tobacco: Various
Pipe: Brisset, Davis, Yakslon, Sasqatch, Lasse
Registration date: 2009-12-31
| | Subject: Re: 2.5m-year-old tobacco found in Peru Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:56 am | |
| Wonder if it could be rehydrated? I'd smoke it!   |
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Frost
Number of posts: 2206
Age: 34
Location: Somewhere near Philly, PA
Tobacco: Various
Pipe: Brisset, Davis, Yakslon, Sasqatch, Lasse
Registration date: 2009-12-31
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puros_bran
Nightrider
Number of posts: 9207
Registration date: 2007-12-10
| | Subject: Re: 2.5m-year-old tobacco found in Peru Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:24 am | |
| How does finding tobacco in Peru confirm that it originated in Peru???
Hell I found a buck in an old coat, does that confirm money originates in old coat pockets??
Correlation IS different than Causation ... there are no synonyms right..
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Frost
Number of posts: 2206
Age: 34
Location: Somewhere near Philly, PA
Tobacco: Various
Pipe: Brisset, Davis, Yakslon, Sasqatch, Lasse
Registration date: 2009-12-31
| | Subject: Re: 2.5m-year-old tobacco found in Peru Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:16 am | |
| Confirm definitions from the interwebz: •establish or strengthen as with new evidence or facts •strengthen or make more firm •make more firm others of a similar nature here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:confirm&sa=X&ei=e8DqTJz1CIGdlgfdyMS7Cw&sqi=2&ved=0CBcQkAE Finidng tobacco in peru: a) establishes and strenghtens the case for stating that tobacco originated there b) strenghtens and makes more firm the case for stating that tobacco originates there c) makes more firm the case for stating that originates there It seems to me that confirm is the appropriate word. I agree though that prove would be decidedly incorrect. Sorry, semantics again.  |
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Doc Manhattan
BoB's Team
Number of posts: 3738
Age: 34
Location: Land of Steady Habits
Tobacco: GH Flakes
Pipe: Gregor Lobnik
Registration date: 2008-05-26
| | Subject: Re: 2.5m-year-old tobacco found in Peru Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:26 am | |
| There probably weren't people in Peru until about 10-12,000 years ago.
So if the tobacco is really 2,500,000 years old (i.e. it passes repeated testing/peer review), it wasn't brought there by people. It either grew nearby, or it was carried by wind, water, or an animal. For the quantity they found, Occam's Razor says "grew nearby" is a best guess.
But wouldn't prove Peru's the *first* place tobacco grew, just *a* place *this* tobacco grew.
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Puff Daddy
Number of posts: 5536
Age: 49
Location: South of heaven
Tobacco: Mostly simple burleys these days
Pipe: Stanwells and Petersons
Registration date: 2007-12-09
| | Subject: Re: 2.5m-year-old tobacco found in Peru Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:33 am | |
| It's probably almost aged enough to smoke 
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Natch
Number of posts: 2042
Age: 62
Location: foothills of the Ozarks
Tobacco: Most Lakeland Flakes, Va. and Va. blends.
Registration date: 2007-12-21
| | Subject: Re: 2.5m-year-old tobacco found in Peru Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:42 am | |
| Considering the size of Ken's stash, and his age, some of the older tins in his cellar must be approaching that age?  Natch |
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thecrowdog
Number of posts: 46
Age: 42
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Tobacco: no soap, please.
Pipe: partially rusticated
Registration date: 2010-11-10
| | Subject: Re: 2.5m-year-old tobacco found in Peru Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:52 am | |
| http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/slideshow/ALeqM5ioVvFhFAqvxmk9gpFTgk_f5bXHRA?docId=CNG.00686f4ad896bf682a75eaefa3baeb5f.c01&index=0 [img]  [/img] |
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jhuggett
BoB's Pioneer & Founding Father
Number of posts: 5233
Age: 41
Location: Olympia, WA
Tobacco: Davidoff Flake Medallions, Reiner Long Golden Flake
Pipe: Sara Eltang Christmas Pipes 11 and 18 of 30
Registration date: 2007-12-09
| | Subject: Re: 2.5m-year-old tobacco found in Peru Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:20 am | |
| Would be cool to have that in the smoking den. Some serious bragging rights when people start talking about their oldest tins.
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"Freedom, Security, Convenience: Choose Two"
"For me, I will take freedom over security and I will take security over convenience." ~ Dan Geer
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Frost
Number of posts: 2206
Age: 34
Location: Somewhere near Philly, PA
Tobacco: Various
Pipe: Brisset, Davis, Yakslon, Sasqatch, Lasse
Registration date: 2009-12-31
| | Subject: Re: 2.5m-year-old tobacco found in Peru Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:49 am | |
| If that's an inch ruler, I'm gonna need a bigger pipe. I wonder if any of our resident carvers are up to the challenge. |
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puros_bran
Nightrider
Number of posts: 9207
Registration date: 2007-12-10
| | Subject: Re: 2.5m-year-old tobacco found in Peru Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:44 pm | |
| Plug Tobacco...... its gotta be lakeland.
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mark
Number of posts: 3617
Registration date: 2008-07-02
| | Subject: Re: 2.5m-year-old tobacco found in Peru Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:08 pm | |
| 2.5 million year old Walnut,,,,,
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Natch
Number of posts: 2042
Age: 62
Location: foothills of the Ozarks
Tobacco: Most Lakeland Flakes, Va. and Va. blends.
Registration date: 2007-12-21
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