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ZeroContent

Number of posts: 419 Age: 30 Location: Columbus, Ohio Tobacco: Rattray's Red Rapparee, Mac Baren HH Vintage Syrian, GLP Cumberland, GLP Quiet Nights Pipe: Stanwell Bishop, Erik Nording Freehand, an old Peterson DeLuxe, and an old GDB New Era Registration date: 2010-10-23
 | Subject: What to Cellar and How Long Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:35 pm | |
| Now that I've taken up the pipe I want to start putting stuff away for later times. I smoke cigars too and tend to age them extensively before smoking, I have cigars that have been sitting in my humi for 8 years now, even some there were already aged 10+ years before they made it to market, so by the time I get to it it'll be 20 years aged. Since cigars are all roughly made with components I haven't seen any where the age was in anyway a negative. But with pipe tobacco most blends aren't "straight up" purely natural forms of dried/fermented/aged tobaccos. Aromatics obviously have additives. English have latakia which is essentially smoked tobacco which is basically and additive. Cavendish is steamed and pressure cured (not exactly natural).
From what I've gathered flavored aros don't age well and will start to decline when would that point be?
Straight VA, VaPers and Burleys can be stored indefinitely and will only get better, correct?
Latakia blends? what's the optimal storage time before their quality declines? if ever? |
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Natch

Number of posts: 2042 Age: 62 Location: foothills of the Ozarks Tobacco: Most Lakeland Flakes, Va. and Va. blends. Registration date: 2007-12-21
 | Subject: Re: What to Cellar and How Long Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:15 pm | |
| So much good (and personal perspective) information out there, and I'm sure others will pipe in. The general rules as I understand them is Virginia and Va and Vapor blends age very well for decades. Burley doesn't seem to improve much if at all and can peak out at some point. Latakias and Orientals seem to gain a little with a few years, but not as much as Virginias. Most aromatics seem to degrade over time.
But as so many tobacco blends today are just that, blends of several types of tobacco, if they contain Virginias, it will probably help. I've found that nothing seems to degrade in just a few years, and as I store mostly Virginas, age seems to help.
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Skip48 Jig Master

Number of posts: 451 Age: 65 Location: Toledo Bend Near Hemphill, TX. Tobacco: Dunhill Flake, Dunhill Deluxe Navy Rolls, Escudo, Red Flake, Cannon Plug, Kendal Plug, Kendal Flake from both Gawith's, Opening Night, Manhattan Afternoon and Sunday Picnic. Solani 633, so many more too, LOL! Pipe: Dunhill, Cavicchi, Caminetto's and Love my Micoli Auto, but also like my Peterson's. Registration date: 2010-10-10
 | Subject: Re: What to Cellar and How Long Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:02 pm | |
| Good questions!
Someone here (I think maybe Yak) advised on FVF at least 2 years minimum so is that with all Virginia tobacco or is some aged enough after one year? Will one year help at all or will it take 2 years minimum to do anything at all?
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Buddy Springman

Number of posts: 1102 Age: 55 Location: Benton Township, SW Michigan Registration date: 2008-06-01
 | Subject: Re: What to Cellar and How Long Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:39 am | |
| There was a pipe tobacco aging FAQ on the 'net. It's been taken down, but I've a pdf of most of it as of March 2010. PM me if interested.
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glpease Dark Lord

Number of posts: 550 Age: 55 Location: Here, now. Somewhere else, later... Tobacco: G. L. Pease - Of course! Registration date: 2007-12-11
 | Subject: Re: What to Cellar and How Long Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:24 am | |
| | ZeroContent wrote: | Now that I've taken up the pipe I want to start putting stuff away for later times. I smoke cigars too and tend to age them extensively before smoking, I have cigars that have been sitting in my humi for 8 years now, even some there were already aged 10+ years before they made it to market, so by the time I get to it it'll be 20 years aged. Since cigars are all roughly made with components I haven't seen any where the age was in anyway a negative. But with pipe tobacco most blends aren't "straight up" purely natural forms of dried/fermented/aged tobaccos. Aromatics obviously have additives. English have latakia which is essentially smoked tobacco which is basically and additive. Cavendish is steamed and pressure cured (not exactly natural).
From what I've gathered flavored aros don't age well and will start to decline when would that point be?
Straight VA, VaPers and Burleys can be stored indefinitely and will only get better, correct?
Latakia blends? what's the optimal storage time before their quality declines? if ever? |
I really need to write something more in-depth on this, but here's a starting point. |
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velveteagle

Number of posts: 1576 Age: 59 Location: Allegan Michigan Tobacco: SG's Chocolate Flake - FVF -Dan's Blue Note- Esoterica Margate- Balkan Sasieni - Lancer's Slices - Erinmore Pipe Mixture Pipe: Favorite Savinelli Autograph # 5-Brebbia Ascot-CAO Big Head Meer - Great Dane Spool-Wally Frank LTD Rhodesian Registration date: 2010-07-13
 | Subject: What to Cellar and How Long Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:47 am | |
| Oh great after reading some I need some advice.. I have 3 tins of Dan's Blue Note in the basement in taped tins.. About a month or two ago I packed them so I was wondering if they just degrade with age being an Aromatic I should not waste the time with them and start to smoke em up one tin at a time.. Anyone with confirmation on this idea ?? |
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