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PostSubject: Kids & Poor Choices   Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:17 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Kids & Poor Choices   Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:19 pm

Doesn't surprise me. The pro marijuana fanatics are as bad as the anti smoking fanatics. I hope they legalize it just so they won't have anything to blather on about anymore.

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PostSubject: Re: Kids & Poor Choices   Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:23 pm

Like it said in the article, it's easier to get. Since they dealers are already doing something illegal anyways selling to anyone is fine. Plus it's easier to grow and easier to process than tobacco so doing it at home is simple to put into the illegal market. So even should it become legal, which is just a matter of time, regulation to keep it from kids is going to be just about impossible because of the fact that it's easy to grow anyways because it's a weed and really don't need any special care.
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PostSubject: Re: Kids & Poor Choices   Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:09 am

By that time tobacco will be illegal, and we'll be talking about growing in closets with black lights and whatnot. How things change.
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PostSubject: Re: Kids & Poor Choices   Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:39 am

I recently found on Youtube all the videos from the LEAP organization ..Law Enforcement Against Prohibition which consists of lots of former retired policemen giving testimony on how it didn't work with alcohol, and isn't working with marijuana. Telling how much time is wasted and increased crime associated with having it illegal. You should watch the video below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LayaGk0TMDc


muder rate per 100,000 people

USA 5

Colombia 35

Legal/ not enforced countries

Netherlands .92

Chile 1.7

germany  .86

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PostSubject: Re: Kids & Poor Choices   Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:58 am

jhuggett (Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:19 am) wrote:
Doesn't surprise me. The pro marijuana fanatics are as bad as the anti smoking fanatics. I hope they legalize it just so they won't have anything to blather on about anymore.

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PostSubject: Re: Kids & Poor Choices   Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:20 pm

muder rate per 100,000 people
USA 5
Colombia 35
Legal/ not enforced countries
Netherlands .92
Chile 1.7
germany  .86


Equating the legalization of grass to a reduced murder rate ????,,,,that's really stretching it,,,

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PostSubject: Re: Kids & Poor Choices   Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:40 pm

No. It isn't. The connection is an intimate one. Where profit potential is enormous, ripoffs & struggles over control of sales territories get people killed every day.

Killings in prisons are typically over unpaid debts, with clandestine drug transactions ranking up there with sports bets as precipitators of mayhem and murder.

If you had access to a state prison system's database, you could easily satisfy yourself that in the neighborhood of 90% of the women incarcerated in it were directly or indirectly involved with drugs, with drugs keying their convictions. With men it runs around maybe 2/3rds, but that's a guess on my part.

You could probably look it up.

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PostSubject: Re: Kids & Poor Choices   Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:41 pm

Most of the statistics are voiced in the above Youtube video, everyone should watch it before posting. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Kids & Poor Choices   Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:32 pm

Please clarify,,,is the discussion on marijuana, or drugs,,,,

If you indicate drugs as a group (meth, cocaine, crack, heroin, grass), I understand the turf wars and the resulting violence. However I thought the topic was marijuana and increased use by teens.


"former retired policemen giving testimony on how it didn't work with alcohol, and isn't working with marijuana"

The added discussion on jail statistics (I believe) sites drugs as a major cause of incarceration. To single out grass from the group is akin to stating hamburgers, and hamburgers alone, cause heart disease. While I understand the jist of the latter discussion, stating legalization of grass reduces the murder rate while NOT eliminating the other drugs from the equation is questionable.

In any case, it's an ongoing problem not solved by legislation, the core of the matter lies with our society and communities.

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PostSubject: Re: Kids & Poor Choices   Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:56 pm

Murder rate in South Africa - 34.2. Marijuana is illegal.
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PostSubject: Re: Kids & Poor Choices   Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:42 pm

The core of the matter is that importing drugs is a highly profitable business, incarcerating people is a highly profitable business, and the two work in synergy.

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