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DAL

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PostSubject: How often do you get to the bottom?   Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:32 pm

While enjoying my first smoke of the evening and catching up on all the Brother's fine posts, I read with particular interest a thread titled "Bowl and a Half Discovery." I have used the same technique a few times, myself, although not to the level of pleasure others have reported. But it really got me to wondering. Just how often do you estimate you reach the bottom of the bowl?

For me, it always depends on how much I'm enjoying the smoke. For example, a tobacco that I feel does not finish well might well be dumped with as much as 1/3rd of the bowl unburnt. Other tobaccos that yield a consistent experience throughout the bowl might only be dumped early because I became bored or wanted a "second course" for some reason. And of course, a wonderful multi-faced tobacco, one that morphs as it goes, is usually one I would smoke till nothing is left in the bowl that can be coxed to support flame.

So, for me, I would estimate I get to the bottom about 50% of the time.

Just curious how often other's reach that point.

--DAL

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hobie1dog

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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:05 pm

With Penzance, 100%
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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:29 pm

Although your post title had me wanting to respond that I hit bottom every time with my wife Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:42 pm

It really depends in large part on the particular blend I happen to be smoking at the time. Alot of times with unrubbed flakes I don't get all the way to the bottom, mostly just from impatience and/or a tendency to tamp too much. With loose cut stuff, shag or ribbon tho I usually end up with nothin but ash, unless I happen to put the pipe down and forget about it which only happens occasionally. Thick cut cubes the very bottom can be difficult to burn all the way too, so there is often some unsmoked stuff with blends like that too.
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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:44 am

Enjoying a bowl of Black Irish X at the moment (is there anything more satisfying?) and can promise it will hit bottom.

Unfortunately all too many of my late night bowls of Virginia don't - as I don't enjoy DGT with virginias, finding them stale in the morning - while a hearty latakia blend can still put out in the morning.

Overall I would say that 1/2 of my bowls hit bottom, fair number have some dottle and a fat few have 1/3 bowl or so laid abandoned...
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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:39 am

I always only smoke what I like. I make it a point to hit bottom every time. If I didn't I'd feel cheated. I choose my bowl size by the tobacco I'm going to smoke or vice versa. It's always good to the very last drop. If on rare occasions,there is ever any tobacco left over it finds it's way as an oreo stuff into my very next bowl.
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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:50 am

LIPIPE wrote:
I always only smoke what I like. I make it a point to hit bottom every time. If I didn't I'd feel cheated.


Me too. I always nub my cigars, clean my plate, suck my glass dry and breathe my scuba tank empty.
I dry my tobacco pretty well and usually don't have any trouble smoking a bowl down to ash.
After all, ya paid fer da whole thing, didn't ya? Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:38 am

Depends largely on the cut & how I tamp. I really don't know the answer though. I'd say mostly I get to the bottom.
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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:00 am

Probably about 2/3 of the time I get to the bottom. Like stated above, any leftover becomes an oreo layer in the next bowl. This is not a problem for me, since I smoke like-types of tobacco in each pipe.

I, like so many others, used to cellar a wide variety of blends. These days, I just keep a few varieties - the ones I like the most. Got it down to about 7 different blends - although only 3 of these see the highest comsumption rates.
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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:01 pm

DAL wrote:
For me, it always depends on how much I'm enjoying the smoke.
I'm pretty much the same, DAL. Although I only smoke blends that I like, sometimes the bottom dottle turns bitter and unpleasant towards the end of the pipe, and that's when I end the smoke. (No need to punish myself, right?) For me, there are many factors influencing this phenomenon, the most important being air humidity. Nonetheless, some blends smoke well to the end regardless of moisture, they just need a relight, while others become bitter very early. Many VAs are in the former case, while Latakia-heavy blends in large bowls seem to often fall in the latter.

Therefore, rough rule of thumb, I figure that I smoke till the end 100% of the time in dry weather, and perhaps 50% when the humidity is high.
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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:21 am

I tend to never give up on a bowl, to the extent that I'll stubbornly try to relight the thin layer of ash I have left. And yes, it does taste dire.
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PostSubject: About 70%    Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:49 am

I'd say about 70% of the time, but it does depend on the type of baccy and the humidity. Basically whenever it starts to taste sour I'll stop - this is usually close to the botttom of the bowl. In my youth I stubbornly refused to "waste" any tobacco (we've all been there I'm sure) and would relight tar and dottle - probably ruined a few good pipes that way and didn't do my palate any good. Also, although I don't tend to use filters/system pipes (with the occasional exception of Falcon) I like to put a few Denicool crystals in the bottom of bowl - because I smoke generally too fast this minimises wastage at the bottom of the bowl, but I'm sure purists may frown at this. silent
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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Sun May 15, 2011 11:49 am

What do people consider "the bottom"? That there's nothing left to burn or that what's left is at least charred? If it's nothing left to burn then I almost never make it there, if it's what's left is pretty charred, then probably only 1/3 of the time. Most of the time there's there's at least a little untouched leaf left in the bottom.
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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Sun May 15, 2011 11:58 am

ZeroContent wrote:
What do people consider "the bottom"? That there's nothing left to burn or that what's left is at least charred? If it's nothing left to burn then I almost never make it there, if it's what's left is pretty charred, then probably only 1/3 of the time. Most of the time there's there's at least a little untouched leaf left in the bottom.

Ditto
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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Fri May 27, 2011 9:07 pm

As long as I'm not interrupted, 100% of the time.

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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Fri May 27, 2011 9:17 pm

ZeroContent wrote:
What do people consider "the bottom"? That there's nothing left to burn or that what's left is at least charred? If it's nothing left to burn then I almost never make it there, if it's what's left is pretty charred, then probably only 1/3 of the time. Most of the time there's there's at least a little untouched leaf left in the bottom.

This.

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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Mon May 30, 2011 11:17 pm

50%
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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Mon May 30, 2011 11:23 pm

1/3 of the time I hit bottom, otherwise I have some charred bits left (but nothing that leaves me feeling like I'm not getting the job done) when I knock the bowl on the heel of my palm, and I never give up on a bowl.
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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Tue May 31, 2011 12:16 am

I'll chime in here too.

In general I try to put enjoyment over finishing every last bit, but ususally do finish if time permits. I will stop if it really starts to get foul. That happens frome time to time, but not often, and mostly with blends that weren´t that good to begin with. Some blends are just harder to get every last bit out of, too. I remember McClelland Dark Star was one of those I had difficulty getting all of.

Smoking the bowl until nothing but white ash remains doesn´t happen to me too often. Usually there's some dottle or unburnt chunks mixed in. The only time I´m fastidious over getting all the way to the bottom is when breaking in a new briar pipe.

That said, I really hate dumping out unsmoked tobacco! It just costs too damn much!

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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:28 pm

Almost never. I much prefer the top half to two thirds of the bowl and seldom smoke the bottom one third to one quarter.

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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:48 pm

Natch wrote:
Almost never. I much prefer the top half to two thirds of the bowl and seldom smoke the bottom one third to one quarter.

Natch

Yup, same here.
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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:40 pm

My rule is pretty simple--I smoke until I'm not enjoying the taste anymore. I don't smoke a pipe or cigars to torture myself, so if it's starting to taste unpleasant, it's time to clean up! That point is usually the last 1/3 to 1/4 for both pipes and cigars.
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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:02 pm

"the bottom" to me is where the taste changes for the worst and or gets too hot to enjoy…Ergo fecit

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PostSubject: Re: How often do you get to the bottom?   Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:12 pm

I try to smoke the whole bowl all the way, if it's nasty down there I move on to other things.
I only push through nasty baccy at the bottom if I am breaking in the pipe.
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