HomeHome  CalendarCalendar  FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  MemberlistMemberlist  UsergroupsUsergroups  Log in  
Share | 
 

 A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
AuthorMessage
NeroWolfe

avatar

Location : Southwest United States
Registration date : 2009-07-29

PostSubject: A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon   Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:34 pm

I was rearranging stuff in my den today, and moved my tobacco cellar of Mason jars to some different drawers. I discovered that some of the lids on the jars have become a bit loose, and I needed to tighten them up (not much, just a 16th of a turn or so). This is despite the fact that I have what my wife calls "vise grip" hands, and always tighten Mason jars with tobacco as tight as I can without stripping the threads. So, something seems to happen over time with the lids such that they loosen a bit. The seal probably remains intact, but in the future probably best to check the jars every few months. Anyone else notice this?????


Last edited by NeroWolfe on Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:11 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
View user profile
momus

avatar

Registration date : 2010-12-12

PostSubject: Re: A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon   Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:28 am

Same thing happens to me. They loosen...but then I just tighten them a second time...and then it sticks, so to speak...and then the lids dip inwards over time and they are good to go.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Doc Manhattan

avatar

Age : 39
Location : Land of Steady Habits
Registration date : 2008-05-26

PostSubject: Re: A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon   Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:22 am

Happens to me, too. Only one possible explanation: Tobacco Ghosts!
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://tobaccocellar.org/tinlist.php?cellar=808
skaukatt

avatar

Age : 56
Location : Queens, NYC
Registration date : 2007-12-26

PostSubject: Re: A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon   Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:38 am

I haven't noticed that on my jars but I will take closer notice when I open the next one. The humorous phenomenon that always gets me is the occasional "ping" of the lids as they respond to the changing temps of the room, I presume.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.newyorkpipeclub.com
MisterE
Moderator
avatar

Location : Mexico City
Registration date : 2009-08-24

PostSubject: Re: A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon   Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:46 am

I think it's that the rubber seal on the lid has compressed a little over time, thus becoming a little thinner.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
z-fog

avatar

Age : 33
Location : Wareham, Mass
Registration date : 2011-06-03

PostSubject: Re: A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon   Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:40 pm

Could it be possible that you screwed them to tight, causing the rubber to be damaged?
Back to top Go down
View user profile
NeroWolfe

avatar

Location : Southwest United States
Registration date : 2009-07-29

PostSubject: Re: A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon   Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:06 pm

z-fog: Good questions, but I have never noticed any seal damage when I pop a jar.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Kapnismologist

avatar

Registration date : 2008-11-09

PostSubject: Re: A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon   Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:43 pm

A common phenomenon; nothing to worry about.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
loneredtree

avatar

Age : 75
Location : Nevada City, CA.
Registration date : 2011-05-28

PostSubject: Re: A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon   Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:59 pm

That happens when canning as the contents cool and there is a vacuum (pressure difference). The seal may be responding to atmospheric pressure changes or the tobc is oxidizing slightly ,consuming some of the oxygen and creating the vacuum. I think now it is the latter.

Still it is no problem and the rings do not need to be tightened.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Cody V

avatar

Age : 31
Location : Memphis, TN
Registration date : 2010-09-12

PostSubject: Re: A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon   Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:45 pm

loneredtree wrote:
That happens when canning as the contents cool and there is a vacuum (pressure difference). The seal may be responding to atmospheric pressure changes or the tobc is oxidizing slightly ,consuming some of the oxygen and creating the vacuum. I think now it is the latter.

Still it is no problem and the rings do not need to be tightened.
+1

sorry to revive an old topic
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Natch

avatar

Age : 66
Location : foothills of the Ozarks
Registration date : 2007-12-21

PostSubject: Re: A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon   Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:26 pm

MisterE wrote:
I think it's that the rubber seal on the lid has compressed a little over time, thus becoming a little thinner.

Sounds logical to me. Same happens to me, about a month or three after sealing them, I can tighten them a bit more. But generally not after that.

Natch
Back to top Go down
View user profile
docwatson

avatar

Location : Central Massachusetts and midcoast Maine
Registration date : 2008-03-21

PostSubject: Re: A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon   Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:39 am

skaukatt wrote:
I haven't noticed that on my jars but I will take closer notice when I open the next one. The humorous phenomenon that always gets me is the occasional "ping" of the lids as they respond to the changing temps of the room, I presume.

Lou,
Same here, LOL. My cellar sounds like a music box when the temps start to vary and the tops start singing to me lol!
Back to top Go down
View user profile
LIPIPE

avatar

Age : 69
Location : Setauket,Long Island and upstate Granville, New York
Registration date : 2010-12-18

PostSubject: Re: A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon   Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:44 am

+1 A man can never screw too tightly!
Back to top Go down
View user profile
denholrl

avatar

Age : 72
Location : Carpinteria, California
Registration date : 2012-10-19

PostSubject: Easy does it   Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:39 pm

Best not to tighten those Mason jars too much. They make the best seal when the rim is screwed on just tight enough to hold the rubber gasket against the glass rim of the bottle. If you tighten too much, you run the risk of distorting the lid and spoiling the seal (and. eventually, the tobacco).

BTW, the Mason jar just celebrated its 100th birthday (per the LA Times).

Rob Denholtz
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Cartaphilus

avatar

Age : 63
Location : East Texas
Registration date : 2011-12-15

PostSubject: Re: A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon   Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:53 pm

Like normal, I've never noticed it either, loose lids or tinking noises from temp change.
Maybe because I keep mine in the bottom dresser draw and there only half pints.
That and my house stays the same temp through out the day because of air conditioning.
Temp change could certainly play a part in lids loosening also I expect.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://rdpipes.briar.club/
Rob_In_MO

avatar

Age : 44
Location : Park Hills, MO
Registration date : 2011-01-19

PostSubject: Re: A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon   Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:01 pm

LIPIPE wrote:
+1  A man can never screw too tightly!
Amen to that, Brother! cheers 
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Dutch

avatar

Age : 52
Location : On the road.......
Registration date : 2010-11-06

PostSubject: Re: A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon   Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:08 am

Rick Newcombe in his latest book "Still Searching for Pipe Dreams," he advocates keeping your tins and mason jars inside an insulated cooler, even when kept inside a temperature regulated environment. He says that the more consistent the conditions, the better the finished product after aging.

I suppose the relative humidity levels as well as temperature changes play a part in the "tins popping phenomenon," as well. I would imagine that the temperature as well as humidity would stay more consistent year round inside an insulated cooler. However, I priced some large ones recently at walmart, which went for around $40 a pop. I could probably fit my 23 lb. cellar inside one of these coolers, however the prospect could get expensive for some guys who have much larger cellar's than I.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
 
A curious Mason Jar Phenomenon
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Curious armband
» Curious
» The Curious Case Of Col. Shue

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Brothers of Briar :: Pipes & Tobacco :: Tobacco Cellars & Smoking Rooms-
Jump to: