HomeHome  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log in  
Share
 

 Scotch 101

Go down 
Go to page : Previous  1, 2
AuthorMessage
pipesmoker09



Registration date : 2011-10-23

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptySun Apr 01, 2012 9:08 am

There are many wonderful blended scotches out there.... Jonnie walker black label, pinch, chivas, even cutty shark from time to time... these blends are appealing to the nose and to the palate. As a true scotch drinker I can fully appreciate the blend masters blends to deliver you a good product, However I do favor single malts as I believe it is the "true identity" of a scotch as appose to several blends thrown together.

I also love the fact that there are many types of regions (like wines) that Scotches are produced.. you have Highland malts, Lowland, Island, Islay, Speysides, ect. each region in which has their own unique kind of "flavor" and "identity."

As far as special bottlings I to think some are quite absurd, but in the past 10 years there has been a huge uprising in whisk(e)y collecting and regions all over the world have tooken partial to the collecting we see many distilleries those in scotland in particular producing these multi wooded small casked aged for 25 years in the queens basement made by her kind of thing selling for hundreds a bottle and collectors drop hundreds and thousands with out batting an eye.
Back to top Go down
Dreadgerbil

Dreadgerbil

Location : Boise, Idaho
Registration date : 2012-01-05

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptyMon Apr 02, 2012 2:48 pm

I have to weigh in as someone who grew up going to Whisky tastings and who, while not a professional by any means, has worked hard to learn his stuff.

First, there ARE bottlings out there where it is recommended to add a little water. HOWEVER, this is because some bottlings are dispatched 'concentrated' rather than ready to drink. If your bottle does not specifically say that it needs water added to it, it's very poor form to add water. People adding something to make a cocktail of it, that's fine. It's better appreciated straight but everyone can understand using the best ingredients for your cocktail. But to add water is a sign that the Whisky itself was made poorly and as such is too strong or astringent to be drunk without water.

Second, the reason it's frowned upon to add ice or even cold rocks etc to your Whisky is that the temperature change messes with the flavour. It changes the actual structure of the Whisky and gives you a drink completely different from the one intended.


There are a lot of really good resources out there for someone looking to get into Single Malts and Blends and a lot of awesome stuff has been posted on here. But I felt the need to add my two cents because those are faux pas I've seen many a drinker, old and young, make in a tasting setting and while most are too polite to say anything, those who aren't will say things that don't deserve to be said.

Back to top Go down
Puff Daddy
Moderator
Puff Daddy

Age : 55
Location : South of heaven
Registration date : 2007-12-09

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptyMon Apr 02, 2012 6:24 pm

Many fine malt whiskys are bottled at 46 to 55 percent alchohol because that is the cask strength, that is where the blender intended it to be. If you buy these cut down to 40 percent all that is happening is that the blender is adding water for you. Better to buy cask strength and add a little at each glass. As to adding ice, the idea is to drink whisky at the optimum room temperature that allows the whisky to breathe and open up. Room temperature in SCotland is not exactly the same as room temperature in California. So, if I have a cask strength Laphroaig and add three or four teaspoons of water via a small ice cube, I both chill the whisky to room temperature and cut the alchohol at the same time.

You can't drink 50 plus percent alchohol whisky and expect to taste it.

_________________
These are horrible times and all sorts of horrible people are prospering, but we must never let this disturb our equanimity or deflect us from our sacred duty to annoy and hinder them at every turn.
Back to top Go down
Dreadgerbil

Dreadgerbil

Location : Boise, Idaho
Registration date : 2012-01-05

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 03, 2012 12:32 pm

Puff Daddy wrote:
Many fine malt whiskys are bottled at 46 to 55 percent alchohol because that is the cask strength, that is where the blender intended it to be. If you buy these cut down to 40 percent all that is happening is that the blender is adding water for you. Better to buy cask strength and add a little at each glass. As to adding ice, the idea is to drink whisky at the optimum room temperature that allows the whisky to breathe and open up. Room temperature in SCotland is not exactly the same as room temperature in California. So, if I have a cask strength Laphroaig and add three or four teaspoons of water via a small ice cube, I both chill the whisky to room temperature and cut the alchohol at the same time.

You can't drink 50 plus percent alchohol whisky and expect to taste it.

I usually just say concentrated since I've had issues trying to explain to people exactly how alcohol content is measured/cask strength/bottling procedures etc.
Most commercial bottlings are pre-diluted and shouldn't need to have any more dilution added. I've seen as many people try to enjoy a cask strength straight as I have people diluting an already diluted dram and wondering why the flavour is so off.

I have to be honest, I'd never considered that the room temperature would be so different in California, but that's probably because even now that I'm in Idaho, I usually have a dram when it's cooler in the evening and in my shady man cave so I've never had a Whisky I needed to chill in any way.

Your method of cooling and correctly diluting a Cask Laphroig is brilliant. Very well thought out. cheers

Back to top Go down
Puff Daddy
Moderator
Puff Daddy

Age : 55
Location : South of heaven
Registration date : 2007-12-09

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 03, 2012 4:37 pm

Room temp here at Casa Daddy is usually in the mid 70's, whether by heater, air conditioning or open window. It's where Mrs D likes it, so that's where it stays. My meager single malt collection (4 bottles) sits in the same little cabinet as my tobacco, which is in the bedroom, not near a window or heat source. My whisky is pretty much always 75 degrees plus or minus a couple.

I've actually just changed from simply dropping in a small cube to keeping a tall glass of ice water next to my Glencairn glass. I now use a teasoon to add ice cold water instead of the ice cube because it's more measurable (1teaspoon for 43% whisky, 2 teaspoons for 46%, etc.) because I accidentally killed a glass of Springbank the other night. I had already added an ice cube and all was going well, had been sipping on it for maybe half an hour and it was quite opened up but still seemed a little sharp, so I added another very small cube out of a glass of ice water. It was too much, cooled it and killed it, all the aroma and flavor just quit on me. I'm quite sure if I'd just added a half teaspoon of water it would have worked out well. Cubes are not perfectly measurable and can give problems, but in warmer climates and with some standard practices (same amount of consistent temperature whisky, same size cube, no messing about with it afterwards) they work well. Except with chronic fussers like myself Mad

_________________
These are horrible times and all sorts of horrible people are prospering, but we must never let this disturb our equanimity or deflect us from our sacred duty to annoy and hinder them at every turn.
Back to top Go down
Harlock999

Harlock999

Location : Los Angeles
Registration date : 2010-10-22

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptySun May 06, 2012 1:59 am

Harlock999 wrote:
Bought a bottle of Talisker 10 yr old last night.
This one, I really like, Warm and fruity/smoky with some peat.
I think I could drink it all night...

Going to finish off this bottle tonight.
Great stuff, and highly enjoyable.
I'd expect Kenny Dalglish to be doing likewise...
Back to top Go down
Puff Daddy
Moderator
Puff Daddy

Age : 55
Location : South of heaven
Registration date : 2007-12-09

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptySun May 06, 2012 9:41 am

That Talisker is on my short list. A couple weeks ago I was standing in the aisle trying to decide between that and a bottle of Macallan 12 sherry cask, went with the Macallan because I was comparing some sherried speysiders (rank: 1 Aberlour 12, 2 Glanfarclas 10, 3 Macallan 12). Should have gone with the Talisker, but research being what it is..... Next forray, the islands Very Happy

_________________
These are horrible times and all sorts of horrible people are prospering, but we must never let this disturb our equanimity or deflect us from our sacred duty to annoy and hinder them at every turn.
Back to top Go down
Harlock999

Harlock999

Location : Los Angeles
Registration date : 2010-10-22

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptySun May 06, 2012 11:58 am

Puff Daddy wrote:
That Talisker is on my short list. A couple weeks ago I was standing in the aisle trying to decide between that and a bottle of Macallan 12 sherry cask, went with the Macallan because I was comparing some sherried speysiders (rank: 1 Aberlour 12, 2 Glanfarclas 10, 3 Macallan 12). Should have gone with the Talisker, but research being what it is..... Next forray, the islands Very Happy

Well, I experienced a brief episode of common sense and refrained from killing off the Talisker last night.
Drank two very enjoyable glasses while contemplating Scottish room temperature...
Will definitely need to replenish soon, though.
Back to top Go down
Puff Daddy
Moderator
Puff Daddy

Age : 55
Location : South of heaven
Registration date : 2007-12-09

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptySun May 06, 2012 12:31 pm

Do you experience the intense pepperiness Talisker has a reputation for? Honestly that was the one thing that stuck in my mind while standing there staring at the bottle, and what made me say "Just grab the Macallan...." . I've done the same thing when passing on Bunnahabhain and Auchentoshan, let something I read on the web influence my decision to try it. Prolly shouldn't do that.

Good call on not kiling that bottle, now you can spend the morning without a headache and there will be a glass of Talisker waiting for you this evening Very Happy

_________________
These are horrible times and all sorts of horrible people are prospering, but we must never let this disturb our equanimity or deflect us from our sacred duty to annoy and hinder them at every turn.
Back to top Go down
Harlock999

Harlock999

Location : Los Angeles
Registration date : 2010-10-22

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptySun May 06, 2012 5:05 pm

Puff Daddy wrote:
Do you experience the intense pepperiness Talisker has a reputation for? Honestly that was the one thing that stuck in my mind while standing there staring at the bottle, and what made me say "Just grab the Macallan...." . I've done the same thing when passing on Bunnahabhain and Auchentoshan, let something I read on the web influence my decision to try it. Prolly shouldn't do that.

Good call on not kiling that bottle, now you can spend the morning without a headache and there will be a glass of Talisker waiting for you this evening Very Happy

Not really. I don't think pepper figures too heavily overall. I do agree with maltmadness:
"Taste: Sweet. Some fairly faint smoke and organics, evolving into peat. Very subtle fruits in the finish."
Back to top Go down
Dreadgerbil

Dreadgerbil

Location : Boise, Idaho
Registration date : 2012-01-05

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptyMon May 07, 2012 11:46 am

Harlock999 wrote:

Not really. I don't think pepper figures too heavily overall. I do agree with maltmadness:
"Taste: Sweet. Some fairly faint smoke and organics, evolving into peat. Very subtle fruits in the finish."

Aye, I have to agree with this. I get much more of the Citrus and mellow peat than anything heavily smoky or peppery.
Back to top Go down
Harlock999

Harlock999

Location : Los Angeles
Registration date : 2010-10-22

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptyFri May 11, 2012 12:33 am

Harlock999 wrote:
Puff Daddy wrote:
Do you experience the intense pepperiness Talisker has a reputation for? Honestly that was the one thing that stuck in my mind while standing there staring at the bottle, and what made me say "Just grab the Macallan...." . I've done the same thing when passing on Bunnahabhain and Auchentoshan, let something I read on the web influence my decision to try it. Prolly shouldn't do that.

Good call on not kiling that bottle, now you can spend the morning without a headache and there will be a glass of Talisker waiting for you this evening Very Happy

Not really. I don't think pepper figures too heavily overall. I do agree with maltmadness:
"Taste: Sweet. Some fairly faint smoke and organics, evolving into peat. Very subtle fruits in the finish."

Caol Ila is peppery.
Having a glass right now.
Back to top Go down
Puff Daddy
Moderator
Puff Daddy

Age : 55
Location : South of heaven
Registration date : 2007-12-09

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptyFri May 11, 2012 6:58 am

Just finished off a bottle of Old Pulteney, which turned out to be the opposite experience I had with The Macallan - I expected to really like The Macallan and didn't, expected to be less than thrilled with Old Pulteney but turns out it's really an excellent malt. I spent quite a number of evenings wondering what it was about this stuff that was so satisfying, and last night it came to me - Umami. Certain malts have that umami characteristic where there's a meaty, substantial and satisfying body accompanied by a saltiness or some other mouth watering characteristic. Umami in a bottle, Old Pulteney. Wonder if it would go with a good miso soup or if that would be overkill?......

_________________
These are horrible times and all sorts of horrible people are prospering, but we must never let this disturb our equanimity or deflect us from our sacred duty to annoy and hinder them at every turn.
Back to top Go down
Harlock999

Harlock999

Location : Los Angeles
Registration date : 2010-10-22

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptyMon May 28, 2012 1:59 am

Yesterday morning, I shared a few puffs of London Mixture with my girlfriend, and she remarked that it smelled like "Scotch". The only single malt she's had is Ardbeg, and I had to totally agree with her. The smoky earthiness of the Dunhill blend and the Islay malt were in total accord. It's crazy, but she just seems to "get it".
Back to top Go down
Puff Daddy
Moderator
Puff Daddy

Age : 55
Location : South of heaven
Registration date : 2007-12-09

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptyMon May 28, 2012 6:38 am

Better hang on to her, sounds like a keeper Smile

_________________
These are horrible times and all sorts of horrible people are prospering, but we must never let this disturb our equanimity or deflect us from our sacred duty to annoy and hinder them at every turn.
Back to top Go down
Harlock999

Harlock999

Location : Los Angeles
Registration date : 2010-10-22

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptyMon May 28, 2012 11:37 am

Puff Daddy wrote:
Better hang on to her, sounds like a keeper Smile

Thanks man!
I do hope she sticks around for a long time.
I've been a pretty happy camper since we started dating a few months ago.
It was kind of funny watching her smoke though, holding the briar like a different sort of smoking pipe...
Cheers,
Chris.
Back to top Go down
Puff Daddy
Moderator
Puff Daddy

Age : 55
Location : South of heaven
Registration date : 2007-12-09

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptyMon May 28, 2012 1:24 pm

Harlock999 wrote:
It was kind of funny watching her smoke though, holding the briar like a different sort of smoking pipe...

Gave away a little bit of her past, did she? Laughing We all have those old skeletons..... As long as she inhale deeply and then cough for five minutes Embarassed clown I'd let it slide Wink

_________________
These are horrible times and all sorts of horrible people are prospering, but we must never let this disturb our equanimity or deflect us from our sacred duty to annoy and hinder them at every turn.
Back to top Go down
Harlock999

Harlock999

Location : Los Angeles
Registration date : 2010-10-22

Scotch 101 - Page 2 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scotch 101   Scotch 101 - Page 2 EmptyTue May 29, 2012 11:51 pm

Puff Daddy wrote:
Harlock999 wrote:
It was kind of funny watching her smoke though, holding the briar like a different sort of smoking pipe...

Gave away a little bit of her past, did she? Laughing We all have those old skeletons..... As long as she inhale deeply and then cough for five minutes Embarassed clown I'd let it slide Wink

Yup! Cool
Back to top Go down
 
Scotch 101
Back to top 
Page 2 of 2Go to page : Previous  1, 2
 Similar topics
-
» TV (as requested)

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Brothers of Briar :: Related Pursuits :: The Kitchen & The Speakeasy-
Jump to: