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jlong

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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:27 pm

Cool would be a wearing a Frog Morton bumper sticker on our vehicles. However, I don't know of such a thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:11 pm

Here's your bumper sticker.

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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:14 pm

cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:09 am

It'd be easy enough to make a t-shirt from an image, but the print-'em-yourself bumper stickers are kind of weak. The ones I've done lasted about six months.
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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:02 am

Personally, I join the cig smokers outside the building. I do get the odd question but generally they're a civil & sociable bunch. The major challenge is trying to smoke a pipe in 10 minutes. But still, it makes for a break.
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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:41 am

Muddler wrote:
Personally, I join the cig smokers outside the building. I do get the odd question but generally they're a civil & sociable bunch. The major challenge is trying to smoke a pipe in 10 minutes. But still, it makes for a break.

That's barely getting to first tamp for me...that's when it's just gettin' good! bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:17 am

Cigar2you wrote:
I have no social hangups about smoking in public, courteous of course, but if smoking is allowed I will do it. At work I stand outside the front door like the rest of the smokers and smoke my pipe. If I dont feel like the 5 minutes of chit chat it takes someone to smoke a cigarette, I will just sit in my truck.

On the other hand, I took my wife to lunch the other day, the weather was unseasonably warm as it was. Now I know with the cold winter weather the local brew pub closes service to the patio area. Being the considerate fellow I am, I ask the manage if I could order from the bar and take the food out to the patio to eat. I explained to him that I wanted to enjoy my burger and stout with a nice bowl of tobacco. The gentleman did one better and told me that if I wanted to eat outside he would send out a waitress. I was overjoyed, they turned the football game on for me, served my lunch and everything was great. However about 45 minutes into the experience other people thought we had a good idea and decided to join us on the patio, at which point the waitress had the audacity to come up to us and explain that they do not allow smoking on the patio til after 9 pm. I promptly explained to the sweet girl that the patio was closed, I had permission to eat drink and smoke here per her boss and that if anyone was complaining that she should explain to them that the patio was closed and that they should go inside to there climate control smoke free atmosphere. I was adamant that I would not be extinguishing my pipe to placate someone that chose to come into an area that was currently being smoked in. She spoke with the manager and we never heard from her again regarding this issue.

Sometimes you just have to stand up for what is right.

Great story and good on ya for standing up for yourself! Way to set an example. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:19 am

plumbernater wrote:
You yonger guys have to quite worrying about what other folks think. You will be misserable doing so and it gives every one else power over you. Enjoy your pipes whem you can, some times its hard to do with anti smoking rules every where. But enjoy when you can, dont worry what others think, because what does it matter any way. Enjoy king



Exactly! I'm 29, and stopped caring about what other people thought five years or so ago (well...not to the point of being inconsiderate, but you know what I mean). Being in my 20s, I still get A LOT of looks when I smoke in public. For the most part, no one is unpleasant about it, though I have been told that I "must be trying to look smarter than I am" on one occasion, and that "I'd look 'cooler' if I smoked cigars" once or twice. These few negative comments/perceptions aside (all of which came from people younger than myself), the reality is that passing a young guy on the street smoking a pipe probably isn't going to register in someone's consciousness for more than a few minutes, at most. Why trouble yourself with the worry? The day I decided that what people who don't know me think of me in passing is hardly worth limiting how much/often I get to enjoy a good smoke.
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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:22 am

More to the question at hand, though, I smoke only very rarely at work.

Most of my time is spent in an office at a company with a "no tobacco on company property" policy. Every once in a great while I drive around "touring the market," as they say. When I can be out for any length of time I always puff. Otherwise, my smoking is limited to the drive to/from work, in my thrown-together study/relaxation room in the basement (the missus abhors smoke), or anytime I'm out of doors.
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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:29 am

While I won't claim to have gotten to the point in my life where I have completely stopped taking into consideration what others thing of me or my actions, I don't have any qualms about smoking in public.

That being said, my work day is long enough. I have moved the point in my career where no one cares if I'm here or not, my work day is dictated by the work I have to get done. My day is long enough without breaking it up. I don't take coffee breaks, I don't go out to lunch. I try to be a task oriented at work as possible. I'd much rather get home and unwind at the end of the day with my pipe. Though, I have been known to sneak off Rittenhouse Square on a particularly nice afternoon.

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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:23 am

idbowman wrote:
Most of my time is spent in an office at a company with a "no tobacco on company property" policy. Every once in a great while I drive around "touring the market," as they say. When I can be out for any length of time I always puff. Otherwise, my smoking is limited to the drive to/from work, in my thrown-together study/relaxation room in the basement (the missus abhors smoke), or anytime I'm out of doors.

I've been wondering who else was in a situation like this one.

In January 2011 the company I work for went completely tobacco free - to the extent that we no longer hire admitted tobacco users, and any employees hired since January 2011 are subject to regular tobacco screenings.

I've been here 11 years, but for the first 9 or 10 of those only smoke the occasional cigar, and the very rare pipe (perhaps once a month or so).

As my pipe smoking has increased recently (I smoke almost every day on the way home from work) I am still relatively careful not to even hint at coworkers or other employees that I'm smoking - period. I'm "grandfathered" into the "you can smoke, but we don't approve" policy - but have no desire to walk down the block off of company property with the cigarette smokers just to enjoy a brief bowl during the work day.

On very very rare occasions in nice weather I'll take my lunch break and go to a public park, or take a drive to enjoy a mid-day bowl - but alas those opportunities are few and far between.

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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:53 am

You have one of those rare cases that socalizam has slipped into your work. If you have rules to obay to keep your job, the job is more important than the pipe. Some of these places that have government contracts do have to go by the gov regulations. Ive done plumbing work at some places and could not smoke. But it sounds like you have adjusted and have good since not to let every one know your business. Hang tough.
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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:40 pm

roogles wrote:


In January 2011 the company I work for went completely tobacco free - to the extent that we no longer hire admitted tobacco users, and any employees hired since January 2011 are subject to regular tobacco screenings.



Holy crap! If this happened here, and there was no grandfather clause, I would be looking for another job immediately!
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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:52 pm

First off all I'd like to thank all of you for your astute replies. I didn't really speak to the entirety of my situation, because I wasn't sure how to put it. Basically, I'm a director and have to deal with a multitude of personnel issues. I have to directly deal with personnel issues for about 50 staff members, and it can be very, very emotionally difficult. That said, there are cigarette smokers, and those are some of the problem children I have to deal with. Needless to say, hanging out with them while smoking is probably the last thing I want or need to do. On the other hand, I worry about how those I work with perceive me, since I often have to reprimand, make unpopular policies, of have frank conversations with employees. Because there is such an awful stigma associated with cigarette smoking, it worries me that my pipe hobby will be lumped in with all of it.

I have to be honest, cigarette smoking seems to be on a completely different playing field to me. I find the smell of it alone intolerable. I grew up in Europe and smoking was and still is pretty much the norm there, but here in the US the anti-tolerance of the thing has been taken to a new level. Yes, there are always the jerks who smoke in areas where it bothers others, and I think if people were more respectful of each other it wouldn't be an issue. I'm sure that this is where the lack of tolerance for smoking has come from.

That said, I can understand designated smoking areas. But, there is a stigma associated with the smoking "thing" in general that I really hate, mainly because the pipe is different. In reality, smoking the pipe or a stogie are really worlds apart from other forms of tobacco consumption, at least in my mind. It's a reflective hobby, something which soothes the stress beast inside me, and helps me get perspective on things. While puffing, slowly, going through the ritual of lighting, tamping, relighting my favorite briar, I find myself in a place where I can find peace. It's also something I discovered on my own, something I was drawn to for reasons completely aside from the tobacco use. I think a lot of us feel this way about the pipe.

I love it because of what it means to me, and don't want to be lumped in by those who just don't understand.

That said, in general, I could care less if someone approves of my pipe outside of work. I'm over 40, and stopped caring about what joe-shmoe thinks of me years ago. It's the work thing that's bothersome. I guess mainly because of my job and responsibilities. Does this make any sense? I guess, the simplest answer is, if I really want to smoke my pipe at work, I really shouldn't care about what my employees think. Smile

Later,

Martin

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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:23 pm

MartinH wrote:

I have to be honest, cigarette smoking seems to be on a completely different playing field to me.

I couldn't agree more with this - and with the sentiment that my interest in pipes and pipe smoking doesn't and hasn't had anything to do with tobacco use for the sake of tobacco use...

It's not about getting a fix, needing to get me going in the morning, etc. No offense to cigarette smokers intended at all... It is just different, as you said.

MartinH wrote:
That said, I can understand designated smoking areas. But, there is a stigma associated with the smoking "thing" in general that I really hate, mainly because the pipe is different. In reality, smoking the pipe or a stogie are really worlds apart from other forms of tobacco consumption, at least in my mind. It's a reflective hobby, something which soothes the stress beast inside me, and helps me get perspective on things. While puffing, slowly, going through the ritual of lighting, tamping, relighting my favorite briar, I find myself in a place where I can find peace. It's also something I discovered on my own, something I was drawn to for reasons completely aside from the tobacco use. I think a lot of us feel this way about the pipe.

I love it because of what it means to me, and don't want to be lumped in by those who just don't understand.

Beautiful words regarding what the pipe means to you - to which I also heartily relate!

Cheers!

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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:15 pm

The "tobacco-free workplace" thing is something invented and perpetuated by the insurance industries. Companies that are run by bean counters or those only interested in shareholder interests are always looking for ways to reduce overhead, and since they pay high-volume insurance policies, it isn't unheard of for insurance companies to literally invent case-by-case policies depending on how many feet away a designated smoking area is, or even more, making the property totally tobacco free--this is up to and including in people's personal cars and even not hiring admitted tobacco users.

Ironically, it's a socialist-capitalist ideal that's due to "private" enterprise controlling what we do because they're so large and out of control they know what is best--they've learned from the best working model we have, the US Government, and found a way to adapt it to make money. This is just one example of it eating itself into the ground.

I totally agree--cigarette smokers and pipe smokers are not the same crowd. Forgive my comparison to any cigarette smokers, but I see cigarette smokers as I do true alcoholics, whereas pipe smokers are just having a drink. Hardly anyone savors a cigarette, they savor the nicotine, which is enhanced by being around others "getting their fix." It's personal maintenance of chemical addiction rather than relaxation or enjoyment, for the vast majority. I smoked cigarettes for almost a decade and quit. I don't like cigarette smoke. I think there should be designated smoking areas so non-smokers and smokers can have their own space. It's funny, the cigarette industry, as insidious as it is, paves the way for pipe smokers.

I don't smoke in public usually because I don't need the trouble, not because of self-consciousness. The "closed patio" story, and then outdoor space in general being reserved for smoking (whether officially or not) in most bars/restaurants are kind of my point: there's just going to be conflict. I have to snort cigarette smoke while I eat or smoke my pipe? I don't think so. I'll bide my time and go elsewhere. Sometimes the battle isn't worth it, win or lose. I just avoid it all together. There's 1,000 places I can picnic in total solitude, with my better half or with friends that are far less infested with pink apes and their silly opinions and conflicts to relax out there. Well, unless you're trapped in a city. Thankfully, I'm not. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:03 pm

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The "tobacco-free workplace" thing is something invented and perpetuated by the insurance industries. Companies that are run by bean counters or those only interested in shareholder interests are always looking for ways to reduce overhead, and since they pay high-volume insurance policies,



The original reasoning behind outrageous cigarette taxes was the taxes were supposed to offset the burden insurance companies face with cigarette related diseases. So we were told. It's not working that way. The feds keep dipping into that account to pick up cost overuns in other areas that have nothing to do with smoking or health insurance.
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PostSubject: Re: Smoking at Work   Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:40 pm

I work at a government building so they have all the rules, but we still have a smoking area for now. I smoke openly during my alotted time. It seems that some smokers make worse for all of us. It seems that no matter where i have worked there is cigarette smokers that use their smoking as a excuse to get out of work, fat people don't get extra breaks for snacks and smokers shouldn't get them for an addiction. I'm twenty 22 smoke a pipe at work and don't really care what others think I get plenty of questions and remarks but just part of it. I come to work set my pipe and tin on my desk, smoke on the same breaks everyone gets, if some one doesn't like then oh well. I do it because i like to not because i need to.
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