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Ocelot55

Number of posts: 1065 Location: Texas Tobacco: Everything but Burley...that stuff feels like lava on my tongue. Too bad. Pipe: Traditional English and Danish Neo-Classical shapes Registration date: 2012-03-28
 | Subject: Tasty Aromatics Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:37 am | |
| I wanted to get some opinions about a classic problem. Most of us love the taste of English and non-aromatic blends, but most of us also like the pipe smoke to smell good to others around us. Most aromatics are, in my opinion, simply flavourless. A good non-aromatic makes me salivate, anticipating the next puff. How can the two be combined? Must we always be forced between pleasing others and pleasing ourselves?
I've searched for a good crossover blend but haven't found one I like. They're usually closer to one extreme than the other. I did however, have some luck with my own blend. I mixed 50% PS Black Cavendish and 50% mixing Latakia. The result was something I like to call "Campfire Cavendish." I had a lovely room note, something that wouldn't send the girls screaming, but also satisfied the craving for some bold flavorful tobacco. I think Sillem's Black comes pretty close, but it burned me a bit. Any thoughts? |
|  | | monbla256

Number of posts: 3766 Age: 67 Location: DFW Metroplex, Texas Tobacco: McClellands Oriental#14, Virginia Woods, Blackwoods Flake, FM #2000 Flake. Duhill Royal Yacht, London Mixture and Flake. Peretii's Royal Blend Pipe: Savanelli's, pre - 1980's Dunhills, Pre and Lane era Charatans as well as various GBD's,BBB's, and Edward's and S&R pipes. Registration date: 2012-01-15
 | Subject: Ocelot55 wrote: Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:20 am | |
| | Ocelot55 wrote: | I wanted to get some opinions about a classic problem. Most of us love the taste of English and non-aromatic blends, but most of us also like the pipe smoke to smell good to others around us. Most aromatics are, in my opinion, simply flavourless. A good non-aromatic makes me salivate, anticipating the next puff. How can the two be combined? Must we always be forced between pleasing others and pleasing ourselves?
I've searched for a good crossover blend but haven't found one I like. They're usually closer to one extreme than the other. I did however, have some luck with my own blend. I mixed 50% PS Black Cavendish and 50% mixing Latakia. The result was something I like to call "Campfire Cavendish." I had a lovely room note, something that wouldn't send the girls screaming, but also satisfied the craving for some bold flavorful tobacco. I think Sillem's Black comes pretty close, but it burned me a bit. Any thoughts? |
I'm personally not informed of a Lat heavy aro type blend/mixture but being a long time Balkan/Lat smoker I have found a nice all Virginia blend/mixture sold by smokingpipes.com. It's their B&M store blend done for them by C&D called Low Country Santee and has a nice light apple flavor and scent. It's made from red and bright Virginia's and smokes smooth and cool and slightly sweet as most Va's do and it has a nice soft spiced apple flavor in the background and aroma note in the room. I've found ladies really appreciate it and it is a blend/mixture I take with me when going "out" with freinds who are smokers and it does not seem to bother anyone. Not a big "in your face" Nheavy blend/mixture as is so wanted by all the younger guys here, rather a nice smooth, nuanced smoke |
|  | | aadelma
Number of posts: 38 Tobacco: Haunted Bookshop, Billy Bud, Cuban Mix, 965, etc. Pipe: Ashton, Peterson, Savinelli, Edward's, etc. Registration date: 2009-01-29
 | Subject: Re: Tasty Aromatics Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:22 am | |
| Like you, I have never found an aromatic I like as much as non-aromatics.
That said, Edward's Buccaneer and Edward's Toasted Cherry are a big step up from the typical black cavendish. They smell great and have quite a bit of tobacco flavor. The C&D black cavendish line (Espresso, Apricots & Cream, etc.) is pretty similar, though not quite as flavorful. I also have a home made blend which is pretty good, it is composed of 50% Edward's Toasted Cherry and 50% C&D Golden Ash.
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|  | | Ocelot55

Number of posts: 1065 Location: Texas Tobacco: Everything but Burley...that stuff feels like lava on my tongue. Too bad. Pipe: Traditional English and Danish Neo-Classical shapes Registration date: 2012-03-28
 | Subject: Re: Tasty Aromatics Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:25 am | |
| That's sounds right up my alley. I might check these out. Thanks for the recommendations. |
|  | | williamcharles

Number of posts: 713 Age: 61 Tobacco: Dark Birdseye, Brown Bogie, Dark Flake (scented and unscented), Irish Flake, Bracken Flake, Condor, 1792, Irish XX. Stonehaven is dessert. Pipe: Petersons, Nordings, Falcons Registration date: 2011-09-17
 | Subject: Re: Tasty Aromatics Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:49 am | |
| Hearth & Home Obsidian is pretty good. One of Russ Oulettes blends. Primarily black cavendish and latakia. Strange cut to it but once you catch on to the way it likes to be packed it burns nicely. Being disabled and on a small pension I don't like to waste tobacco and you can believe me, the Obsidian didn't get wasted. |
|  | | Storm_Crow

Number of posts: 528 Age: 37 Location: Medford, NJ Tobacco: Rattray VAs, VA Spice, Sweet and Savory, Storm Front, Trout Stream, Black, Odyssey, Artisan Blend, MM7, Essence of Vermont, 3 Blind Moose, and a variety of Boswell and Pipeworks and Wilke aromatics. Registration date: 2011-04-12
 | Subject: Re: Tasty Aromatics Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:52 am | |
| | Ocelot55 wrote: | I wanted to get some opinions about a classic problem. Most of us love the taste of English and non-aromatic blends, but most of us also like the pipe smoke to smell good to others around us. Most aromatics are, in my opinion, simply flavourless. A good non-aromatic makes me salivate, anticipating the next puff. How can the two be combined? Must we always be forced between pleasing others and pleasing ourselves?
I've searched for a good crossover blend but haven't found one I like. They're usually closer to one extreme than the other. I did however, have some luck with my own blend. I mixed 50% PS Black Cavendish and 50% mixing Latakia. The result was something I like to call "Campfire Cavendish." I had a lovely room note, something that wouldn't send the girls screaming, but also satisfied the craving for some bold flavorful tobacco. I think Sillem's Black comes pretty close, but it burned me a bit. Any thoughts? |
I'd be tempted to also say Sillems Blacl, but the reality is that most non smokers are probably never going to be in love with the smell of latakia no matter how you dress it up so that's probably a lost cause. I'm not sure why folks find it so offensive. It reminds me of a campfire and that brings fond memories. It's not like nasty cigarette smoke. Ah well...
Anyway, I've been told that Marlin Flake, a VA non aromatic with a small amount of cavendish and perique, has a pleasant smell to it. |
|  | | Rob_In_MO

Number of posts: 3554 Age: 39 Location: Park Hills, MO Tobacco: Mostly Aromatics, Some VA's, Mild English Blends Pipe: Bjarne, Peterson, Savinellis, Cobs & Basket Briars. Registration date: 2011-01-19
 | Subject: Re: Tasty Aromatics Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:31 pm | |
| For a good room note with flavor, my vote would have to go to Peterson's Irish Whiskey. |
|  | | mike_68

Number of posts: 615 Age: 44 Location: central Florida Tobacco: Key Largo
Storm Front
Jack Knife Plug
Orlik Golden Sliced
Pipe: Peterson Aran 306 P-Lip
Peterson Rock Of Cashel 68 Registration date: 2011-07-19
 | Subject: Re: Tasty Aromatics Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:54 pm | |
| Adding to what aadelma saud, Edward's Scottish Moor is in this category. A mild vanilla room note but a solid tobacco taste for the smoker..
And like Rob said, I understand most Pete aros are pretty solid in toby taste but pleasant in room note, although I've not sampled any as yet.. |
|  | | monbla256

Number of posts: 3766 Age: 67 Location: DFW Metroplex, Texas Tobacco: McClellands Oriental#14, Virginia Woods, Blackwoods Flake, FM #2000 Flake. Duhill Royal Yacht, London Mixture and Flake. Peretii's Royal Blend Pipe: Savanelli's, pre - 1980's Dunhills, Pre and Lane era Charatans as well as various GBD's,BBB's, and Edward's and S&R pipes. Registration date: 2012-01-15
 | |  | | Dave_In_Philly

Number of posts: 1326 Age: 32 Location: Philly Registration date: 2011-08-18
 | Subject: Re: Tasty Aromatics Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:29 pm | |
| Esoterica has a blend that is Margate topped with cognac. I forget which one it is but I'm sure its worth trying. |
|  | | tech2576

Number of posts: 580 Age: 56 Location: North end of GA Tobacco: Chelsea Morning
Balkan Sobranie
Penzance
Sextant
BBF
Haddo's
OGS
HOTW Pipe: Savinelli 114KS
Nording freehand
Couple GBDs
BoB 2012 POY Black & Tan
Stanwell 186 & 32
Comoys Silver Shadow
Cobs Registration date: 2012-01-19
 | Subject: Re: Tasty Aromatics Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:01 pm | |
| | monbla256 wrote: | | Ocelot55 wrote: | I wanted to get some opinions about a classic problem. Most of us love the taste of English and non-aromatic blends, but most of us also like the pipe smoke to smell good to others around us. Most aromatics are, in my opinion, simply flavourless. A good non-aromatic makes me salivate, anticipating the next puff. How can the two be combined? Must we always be forced between pleasing others and pleasing ourselves?
I've searched for a good crossover blend but haven't found one I like. They're usually closer to one extreme than the other. I did however, have some luck with my own blend. I mixed 50% PS Black Cavendish and 50% mixing Latakia. The result was something I like to call "Campfire Cavendish." I had a lovely room note, something that wouldn't send the girls screaming, but also satisfied the craving for some bold flavorful tobacco. I think Sillem's Black comes pretty close, but it burned me a bit. Any thoughts? |
I'm personally not informed of a Lat heavy aro type blend/mixture but being a long time Balkan/Lat smoker I have found a nice all Virginia blend/mixture sold by smokingpipes.com. It's their B&M store blend done for them by C&D called Low Country Santee and has a nice light apple flavor and scent. It's made from red and bright Virginia's and smokes smooth and cool and slightly sweet as most Va's do and it has a nice soft spiced apple flavor in the background and aroma note in the room. I've found ladies really appreciate it and it is a blend/mixture I take with me when going "out" with freinds who are smokers and it does not seem to bother anyone. Not a big "in your face" Nheavy blend/mixture as is so wanted by all the younger guys here, rather a nice smooth, nuanced smoke |
And, if I may be so bold. :lol:Where might one procure some of said blend? |
|  | | monbla256

Number of posts: 3766 Age: 67 Location: DFW Metroplex, Texas Tobacco: McClellands Oriental#14, Virginia Woods, Blackwoods Flake, FM #2000 Flake. Duhill Royal Yacht, London Mixture and Flake. Peretii's Royal Blend Pipe: Savanelli's, pre - 1980's Dunhills, Pre and Lane era Charatans as well as various GBD's,BBB's, and Edward's and S&R pipes. Registration date: 2012-01-15
 | Subject: Re: Tasty Aromatics Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:08 pm | |
| From smokingpipes.com on line or at there Low Country B&M store in South Carolina. In fact I just re-oredered 2 50g tins |
|  | | Blackhorse BoB's Team

Number of posts: 3150 Location: Oregon City Tobacco: Blend of the month is Patton's Oriental Dusk. Some good old Happy Bogie too. Pipe: Pipes by ta harris & UberHuberMan of this Site plus the 2012 BoB POY. Registration date: 2010-10-23
 | Subject: Re: Tasty Aromatics Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:12 pm | |
| I agree it is a kind of problem. When you want an acceptible room note and go to an aromatic, there is flavor, but too often very little substance. I think that's why the Brits developed their versions of aromatics...not the American style smelly, goopy stuff...but "scented" blends with a more than solid base of stout weed. Once the stuff has been ignited, most of the scent goes out as 'aroma' but not all that much goes into the flavor as it's smoked. Of course there are the super strong Lakeland florals, etc. but I really not referring to those. I'm talking about the ones that are middle ground blends like Rum Flake and Lousiana Flake and the Scottish Flake with the choco-blast thing going on. There are others of course. Then if you want to go up a notch, there's blends like Glengary, Dark Honeydew, etc., etc. If one doesn't really know that much about them, all you have to do is go over to the review site and use the advanced search engine and put in some perameters that make you happy and see what pops up...it's really kind of fun. I've discovered a number of excellent blends doing that.
http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/search_advanced.cfm
I just did a search based on the following. It contains VA & Burley but no Latakia. Strength range from medium to strong. Taste range from med-full to full flavored. Room note from pleasant to very pleasant.
I got 16 matches...including, but not limited to: 841: 'Sha'are Orah' (Gates of Light) & 'Captain Bob's Pot O' Gold Mixture' - both C&D...4 Noggins 'Father Orin'...P&C 'Marquee Series: Lakeland Brickle Fortissimo'...'Rich Dark Honeydew' and 'Rumbh' from G&H...and Sutliff's 'Charlemagne'. If I opened the room note thing to tolerable/pleasant to very pleasant it came up with over 60.
Play with it. A pipe guy's toy. |
|  | | Storm_Crow

Number of posts: 528 Age: 37 Location: Medford, NJ Tobacco: Rattray VAs, VA Spice, Sweet and Savory, Storm Front, Trout Stream, Black, Odyssey, Artisan Blend, MM7, Essence of Vermont, 3 Blind Moose, and a variety of Boswell and Pipeworks and Wilke aromatics. Registration date: 2011-04-12
 | Subject: Re: Tasty Aromatics Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:05 am | |
| I agree Blackhorse...I also use TR to help guide me. Having said that I sometimes have to wonder at the ratings and opinions of some of the folks on that site. I suspect a number of them are smoking more than merely tobacco... Oh, and I can recommend Rum Flake. It's very tasty and different. They refer to it as the "birthday cake" of tobacco I believe which given the flavor I can sorta see that. It's not well thought of if I recall correctly...perhaps because it is a bit different...but that's never disuaded me. I like a change of pace. |
|  | | Blackhorse BoB's Team

Number of posts: 3150 Location: Oregon City Tobacco: Blend of the month is Patton's Oriental Dusk. Some good old Happy Bogie too. Pipe: Pipes by ta harris & UberHuberMan of this Site plus the 2012 BoB POY. Registration date: 2010-10-23
 | Subject: Re: Tasty Aromatics Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:40 am | |
| G&H Rum Flake has a solid 3 out of 4 stars rating at the review site.
I'm not sure what the guys over there are smoking all in all...but I too wonder sometimes if it's the same stuff as me. Anyway, the wide variance in opinions regarding different blends is just proof to me of the site's validity...covering the entire spectrum of pipe smokers from brand new ignorant nimrods to wise old curmudgeonish sages and everything in between. Proof also of the wide range and differences in preferred styles and flavors, etc. |
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