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Frost

Number of posts: 2206 Age: 34 Location: Somewhere near Philly, PA Tobacco: Various Pipe: Brisset, Davis, Yakslon, Sasqatch, Lasse Registration date: 2009-12-31
 | Subject: Making music Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:34 pm | |
| Hey all. Feeling guilty since I haven't been on much lately and I've had severaly PMs from brothers checking in, which of course makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, so I figured I'd make a post to at least show that I didn't just dissapear into another dimension or something (one can only hope  ). Plus it' gives me an excuse to share a little bit of some other interests I've been pursuing recently, one of which is an attempt to write and record an album. Needless to say it's slow going since my band consists of only me (shallow talent pool) and my recording studio consists of only my basement (used to be a garage). Anyways, heres a song that's been in the works for a while. Can't get the widget thingy to work so a link will have to do: http://soundcloud.com/a-frost/free Let me know what you think if you are so inclined or feel free to share any tips or suggestions if you've got 'em. I am of course under no illusions and realize that there are many flaws and it certainly will not be everyone's cup o' tea, so feel free to tell me my song sucks and I should go crawl in a hole and die if that's what you really think. You'll have to stick with it for at least 1:30 or so if you want to hear my crappy singing voice Just sorta wanted to share. I'll post more songs as I finish them, whether you want to hear them or not. If you like 'em, that's awesome. If you hate 'em, that's still awesome because it will give me satisfaction knowing that every time I post a new one it will annoy somebody. -Adam |
|  | | MisterE

Number of posts: 4137 Age: 45 Location: Mexico City Registration date: 2009-08-24
 | Subject: Re: Making music Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:44 pm | |
| Well done Frosty! Has a sort of psychadelic feel to it at the top.
What you're meaning to do is way more important than what's actually coming out at this point. I don't mean that as a backhanded compliment either. Believe me, there are plenty of people with better training that have far less to "say" musically. Your voice can be worked on, so don't worry about that. Technical shit can be worked on too. If you get into more sophisticaed hardware/software you won't even have to sing well. It can be "fixed". That works for a whole bunch of big names. Ever heard Brittany Spears without any "digital help"?? You're Pavarotti by comparison, lol.
The only thing I didn't quite get from a musical standpoint was what the drums were doing. |
|  | | Harlock999

Number of posts: 5005 Location: Los Angeles Tobacco:
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Italiano Registration date: 2010-10-22
 | Subject: Re: Making music Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:24 pm | |
| Hey, Frost! Good to see you posting, and making music! I listened to the track right before my internet went down, and misterE said almost exactly what I was going to say, only more eloquently! I like the direction you're taking with that song, but the drums are holding it back, and are kind of distracting from the piece. It's why otherwise sane people associate with the sort of lunatics who play drums... Cheers, and take care! Chris. |
|  | | Frost

Number of posts: 2206 Age: 34 Location: Somewhere near Philly, PA Tobacco: Various Pipe: Brisset, Davis, Yakslon, Sasqatch, Lasse Registration date: 2009-12-31
 | Subject: Re: Making music Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:41 am | |
| Yeah the drums do sorta suck. It's probably at least partly because and I don't actually have any drums and wouldn't know how to play them if I did. I'm still trying to work out all the ins and outs of the drum software and midi and stuff so hopefully they will get better. |
|  | | Kyle Weiss

Number of posts: 11524 Location: Reno, NV Tobacco: SG-KP/SL/BBF, R-HOTW, MacB-VA#1/NF/ODF, GLP-Emb/US/JKP/SXT/Nav, D-EMP/NC, C&D-BB, JP-SF/OD, S-660, WTF, BBQ -- hissing at Old Lady Lakeland; Cajun Hater. Pipe: Slightly bent bulldogs, classy Rhodesians, venerable cobs, pithy pokers, curvy blowfish, sleek Canadians, and almost anything bizarre. Registration date: 2011-09-18
 | Subject: Re: Making music Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:35 am | |
| I can't listen to it right now, Frost, but I shall. I've made more than my fair share of home recordings of what I like to assume is music. Glad you're okay. I was wondering where you were myself.  |
|  | | MartinH

Number of posts: 654 Age: 42 Location: The South Tobacco: It's all good, especially straight, VAs, good VaPers and Latakia blends are simple heaven. Pipe: My collection is growing... Registration date: 2011-01-04
 | Subject: Re: Making music Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:39 pm | |
| Frost,
I like where beginning of the son is going. I think you need sort of a "B" section with some rhythmically interesting guitar sounds, and the go to your vocals. Your vocals can be a "C" section and then you can repeat or "da capo" the "A" section. Just some thoughts from a wanna-be-musician, namely me. I think it sounds awesome! Keep working away at it. |
|  | | Frost

Number of posts: 2206 Age: 34 Location: Somewhere near Philly, PA Tobacco: Various Pipe: Brisset, Davis, Yakslon, Sasqatch, Lasse Registration date: 2009-12-31
 | |  | | Kyle Weiss

Number of posts: 11524 Location: Reno, NV Tobacco: SG-KP/SL/BBF, R-HOTW, MacB-VA#1/NF/ODF, GLP-Emb/US/JKP/SXT/Nav, D-EMP/NC, C&D-BB, JP-SF/OD, S-660, WTF, BBQ -- hissing at Old Lady Lakeland; Cajun Hater. Pipe: Slightly bent bulldogs, classy Rhodesians, venerable cobs, pithy pokers, curvy blowfish, sleek Canadians, and almost anything bizarre. Registration date: 2011-09-18
 | Subject: Re: Making music Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:42 pm | |
| Yeah, I like checkin' out other people's stuff too.
I'm mostly electronic...here's my most "normal" stuff, from the 2010 NaSoAlMo.org project:
http://www.soundcloud.com/syntaxiate
...more weirdness, experimental:
http://www.soundcloud.com/stickybop
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|  | | Frost

Number of posts: 2206 Age: 34 Location: Somewhere near Philly, PA Tobacco: Various Pipe: Brisset, Davis, Yakslon, Sasqatch, Lasse Registration date: 2009-12-31
 | Subject: Re: Making music Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:46 pm | |
| | MartinH wrote: | Frost,
I like where beginning of the son is going. I think you need sort of a "B" section with some rhythmically interesting guitar sounds, and the go to your vocals. Your vocals can be a "C" section and then you can repeat or "da capo" the "A" section. Just some thoughts from a wanna-be-musician, namely me. I think it sounds awesome! Keep working away at it. |
Thanks for the tip and i kinda get what you mean. The structure is atypical and sometimes I think maybe too much so. It's one of those things that never quite feels finished and always seems like it's missing something. There were other bits and pieces (one of which was a sort of "b" section after the stop) that I decided needed to be cut once the song started tickling the 8 minute mark and even I was getting tired of it...lol. |
|  | | Frost

Number of posts: 2206 Age: 34 Location: Somewhere near Philly, PA Tobacco: Various Pipe: Brisset, Davis, Yakslon, Sasqatch, Lasse Registration date: 2009-12-31
 | |  | | MartinH

Number of posts: 654 Age: 42 Location: The South Tobacco: It's all good, especially straight, VAs, good VaPers and Latakia blends are simple heaven. Pipe: My collection is growing... Registration date: 2011-01-04
 | Subject: Re: Making music Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:55 pm | |
| [quote="Frost"] | Kyle Weiss wrote: | Gotta go choke somebody at the moment |
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I like that! |
|  | | PipeLeisure

Number of posts: 1105 Age: 35 Location: Dartmouth Massachusetts Tobacco: Boswells Northwoods, Cherry Smash, Berry Cobbler, Christmas Cookie, Pom Holiday, Chocolate Cream. Peterson blends, dunhill, McCrainies "Murdocks Pipe", Christmas Cheer. Pipe: Boswell, Ardor, Ser Jacopo, Caminetto, Stanwell, Peterson, Eric Nording, Poul Winslow, Sřren. Lover of Freehands. Registration date: 2011-08-28
 | Subject: Re: Making music Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:25 pm | |
| Hay Frost, glad to see your doing OK, I listened to your track and I think its great, keep up the great work. |
|  | | gospelman

Number of posts: 284 Age: 59 Location: Knoxville Tobacco: Squadron Leader, Westminster, Prince Albert, Nightcap Pipe: The one I'm smoking now Registration date: 2007-12-20
 | Subject: Re: Making music Tue May 08, 2012 7:24 am | |
| Pretty cool!
Here's a dumb question: what program are you guys using to make music on your computer? My daughter has Garage Band on her Macbook, and she has recorded some stuff with her boyfriend that sounds really good.
However, I know there are other programs out there...I'm getting kinda interested in doing some of it myself.
Mike |
|  | | Kyle Weiss

Number of posts: 11524 Location: Reno, NV Tobacco: SG-KP/SL/BBF, R-HOTW, MacB-VA#1/NF/ODF, GLP-Emb/US/JKP/SXT/Nav, D-EMP/NC, C&D-BB, JP-SF/OD, S-660, WTF, BBQ -- hissing at Old Lady Lakeland; Cajun Hater. Pipe: Slightly bent bulldogs, classy Rhodesians, venerable cobs, pithy pokers, curvy blowfish, sleek Canadians, and almost anything bizarre. Registration date: 2011-09-18
 | Subject: Re: Making music Tue May 08, 2012 7:28 am | |
| When you're asking "make music on your computer," are you referring to composing the music or simply recording? To try and answer both potential questions, I use old-fashioned synthesizers, MIDI and non-computerized electronic instruments. I will record with an open-source program called "Audacity." I don't know anything about Garage Band, except everyone has it installed on any given Mac and seem to get passable results. |
|  | | gospelman

Number of posts: 284 Age: 59 Location: Knoxville Tobacco: Squadron Leader, Westminster, Prince Albert, Nightcap Pipe: The one I'm smoking now Registration date: 2007-12-20
 | Subject: Re: Making music Tue May 08, 2012 7:42 am | |
| Thanks for the reply. I know next to nothing about recording on a computer, so that was the gist of my question, the actual recording.
My daughter and her boyfriend were using the Garage Band program, and he has a decent microphone. Sounds pretty good, actually.
A friend of mine was talking about Protools...but I understand it's kinda pricey.
Mike |
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