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desertpiper

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PostSubject: Lighting question   Thu May 24, 2012 12:07 pm

Howdy folks. The question I have is about lighting your pipe. I keep getting tongue and I think that a lot of that comes from lighting my pipe. Getting the tobacco to hot. So How do you get a good light without getting the heat to your tongue?
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Kyle Weiss

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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Thu May 24, 2012 12:32 pm

Getting tongue, eh? cyclops Laughing Lucky dog.

You're truly getting tongue burn from lighting, huh? Are you packing too tightly then overcompensating by drawing way too much as you light?

I tend to light with a couple long, slow draws, and then stop, puff on it for a while, then relight if necessary. At least until there's a good amount of carbon on top. Then I do what I refer to as "first tamp," which I very gently flatten all the curled pieces of bacca and let the ash fill in the gaps. At that point, lighting is effortless. *shrug* Moisture content, cut and packing method all variables in this case--adapt or die. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Thu May 24, 2012 2:14 pm

I do a pretty much the same thing when lighting. And I pack pretty loose, when I pull air in there is virtually no resistance. Maybe I'm packing too loose.
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Kyle Weiss

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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Thu May 24, 2012 2:24 pm

I was thinking that initially, but it's not as common to pack too lose by mistake. I know when I have a mix/blend that's ribbon cut I tend to automatically pack more as if I'm smoking my chunky/flake stuff, and regret it later--very hot, moist smokes at times. I have no idea how I gravitated toward more chunky bacca, but I gotta watch myself with anything else. Laughing

Sure, try tightening up your pack a little and give the draw a little resistance, and as always, go longer, slower draws to light, and you should be alright.
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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Thu May 24, 2012 4:35 pm

After decades (sorry Kyle, facts is facts Smile ) of lighting various types of 'bac I've found that if you truly "char" the tobacco, no reall drawing on it, that is on top, let it curl and rise, THEN tamp it down and apply the lighting match with just the lightest of "breathes" I get NO BITE on my tongue and find the tobacco will stay lit better as well. This takes longer and is harder with moister tobacco and some cuts but with some varience ths method has worked for me all these years . Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Thu May 24, 2012 9:25 pm

Advice : don't fight it. It isn't a contest that you can win. If the first two or three lights don't "take" (and they likely won't, depending on the tobacco &c.), don't huff it to MAKE it keep going. Let it do what it wants to do. And let it cool ALL the way down between lights. When it does "take," you're in the right zone. For a while. Just co-operate with it. Enjoy the best it offers you when it does.

What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Thu May 24, 2012 10:32 pm

You folks have given me some good advice. I'll put it to good use tonight. Thanks a bunch.
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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Fri May 25, 2012 2:36 am

Yak wrote:
Advice : don't fight it. It isn't a contest that you can win. If the first two or three lights don't "take" (and they likely won't, depending on the tobacco &c.), don't huff it to MAKE it keep going. Let it do what it wants to do. And let it cool ALL the way down between lights. When it does "take," you're in the right zone. For a while. Just co-operate with it. Enjoy the best it offers you when it does.

What a Face

Best advice I've ever heard.
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Kyle Weiss

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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Fri May 25, 2012 2:47 pm

williamcharles wrote:
Yak wrote:
Advice : don't fight it. It isn't a contest that you can win. If the first two or three lights don't "take" (and they likely won't, depending on the tobacco &c.), don't huff it to MAKE it keep going. Let it do what it wants to do. And let it cool ALL the way down between lights. When it does "take," you're in the right zone. For a while. Just co-operate with it. Enjoy the best it offers you when it does.

What a Face

Best advice I've ever heard.

Can't argue there. Cool Fighting your tobacco will always make the smoker lose. I've tried. I lost. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Sat May 26, 2012 8:00 am

check out the SmokingPipes.com newsletter from last week, they had an excellent article on lighting the pipe and not ruining it. Those tips will also keep tongue bite at bay. For myself, it was all about experience. Knowing how to pack each pipe and blend. I use matches whenever I can. Low temp, less heat, less pipe damage and tongue issues. After a year of smoking a pipe, I marveled to myself that I can't recall the last time I had tongue bite. So, be patient with the pipe and yourself, practice makes perfect.
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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Sat May 26, 2012 1:04 pm

Yak's advice, as well as Kyle's and Monbla's are all solid.
I've found that a positive side affect of not wanting to char the rims of my pipes is that I tend to not hold the flame to the tobacco for too long, which also ends up avoiding the associated heat and tongue burn.
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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Sat May 26, 2012 3:13 pm

Yak wrote:
Advice : don't fight it. It isn't a contest that you can win. If the first two or three lights don't "take" (and they likely won't, depending on the tobacco &c.), don't huff it to MAKE it keep going. Let it do what it wants to do. And let it cool ALL the way down between lights. When it does "take," you're in the right zone. For a while. Just co-operate with it. Enjoy the best it offers you when it does.

What a Face

Best advice I've read in a while!!
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Kyle Weiss

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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Sat May 26, 2012 3:34 pm

Harlock999 wrote:
I've found that a positive side affect of not wanting to char the rims of my pipes is that I tend to not hold the flame to the tobacco for too long, which also ends up avoiding the associated heat and tongue burn.

That's actually a really good point. I am very careful about "rim burn" and try my best to time my draws with the flame, and have the flame directed at the tobacco--not the briar. Length of time is also important. I don't mind a little darkening that kind of fades from the inside to the outer part of the rim, but I simply don't want those burn marks I've seen some guys develop from always lighting the same way/angle and charring briar.
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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Sat May 26, 2012 4:49 pm

I can't lie...I kinda like the look of a charred rim. I know it's supposed to be kind of a no-no, but I think it gives pipes a certain "well used" character. But that's just me!
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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Sat May 26, 2012 5:44 pm

I know when I first started, real flavorful aromatics and, basically anything with flavor ruined my tongue. So my local shop had a popular golden cavendish with a pretty neutral flavor and after smoking that I was able to move all over the place. Also some pipes are just gonna plane stink until you find the right tobacco for that pipe. It sucks but I found that out the hard way.
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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Sat May 26, 2012 9:21 pm

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I am very careful about "rim burn" and try my best to time my draws with the flame, and have the flame directed at the tobacco--not the briar. Length of time is also important.
Suggestion : bounce the lighter. Down when you draw, back up afterward.

What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Sat May 26, 2012 9:52 pm

Yak wrote:
Quote :
I am very careful about "rim burn" and try my best to time my draws with the flame, and have the flame directed at the tobacco--not the briar. Length of time is also important.
Suggestion : bounce the lighter. Down when you draw, back up afterward.

What a Face
Great tip, I just dip and light, letting the flame kiss the tobacco, than away.
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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Tue May 29, 2012 1:56 pm

Also, keep your tongue out of the smoke stream when lighting.
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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Wed May 30, 2012 11:47 pm

Very helpful posts in here!


But

dougc905 wrote:
Also, keep your tongue out of the smoke stream when lighting.

How would you do that if you're not smoking a P-Lip?
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Kyle Weiss

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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Thu May 31, 2012 1:09 am

It's hard to describe, but think of what happens to us poor guys when you take a dip into some pretty cold water. It knows how to duck for cover.

Yeah, that.

Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Lighting question   Thu May 31, 2012 1:06 pm

Ok, I guess I got it haha. Tried and actually yeah, I can kinda avoid by doing ... however to discribe that Laughing
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