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TheSmokeamater

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PostSubject: A lighting techinque you must try   Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:56 pm

From the sometimes profound, often absurd, always entertaining 1953 book, The Pipe, by Georges Herment:

Part 3: Lighting the pipe; What Shall we use?
".....an ember from a wood fire deserves a paragraph all to itself. It is the queen of all lighters, and any smoker who cares to make the experiment will speedily recognize its superiority over any other method of lighting a pipe. The pipe lit with such an ember---especially if it be of some resinous wood---will afford thirty per cent more pleasure and satisfaction than if a match or fluid lighter be used. This admits of no question, experience alone will convince the skeptic; it has to be tried to bring full convincement [sic]. Imagine coming into camp after a long days tramp; dark has fallen and the log fore is blazing clearly and merrily---and then to be nourished---no other word will do---by a great pipe lit by a smoldering stick from the fire! It is at such times that all theories hatched when smoking in one's study go by the board, when the whiff of the pipe mingles with the robust, health-giving smell of a wood fire.

It should be understood, naturally, that the glowing ember placed on the surface of the tobacco must be left among the burning shreds until the pipe is properly alight. We would even go so far as to advise pressing it in with the thumb, for not only will it communicate its perfume to the tobacco, but even when burned out it will assist drawing, merely by its presence in the bowl (see the drawing above). It is impossible to overate its virtues."
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Ridiculously colorful writing? Perhaps yes.

A cockamamie idea? It sure sounds like one. However, I can tell you have tried this a few times. It is everything he says, and more. Although I don't recommend pressing your thumb into a red hot burning ember!!

Where he indicates "see drawing above" in parenthesis, there is a cut-a-way illustration of a loaded pipe bowl with the ember sitting atop the tobacco dead center allowing air to flow (illustrated by arrows) around the perimeter of the the bowl ie: diverted around the obstructing ember.

This is a wonderful thing to experience.

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Rich
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:06 am

Everything he says? So it's exactly 30 percent better? How do you two measure that?
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:24 am

George Kaplan wrote:
Everything he says? So it's exactly 30 percent better? How do you two measure that?

LOL.. Thirty percent!!! By my account it's 32%!

It's all part of the absurdity. Of course it's not measurable. All I can tell you is that every time I have tried this it added a totally different dimension to the smoking experience. I think I can also say, with good certainty, that it eliminated the need for re-lights.
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:53 am

George Kaplan wrote:
Everything he says? So it's exactly 30 percent better? How do you two measure that?

...Philestine!
(Tipsy post)
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:09 am


Well, I'm not sure I would want to smoke the ember, no matter what the size or wood type, but at least the size of the ember recommended makes sense (compared to what Brett used in the scene above)
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:14 am

The bottom line of word choice and sentence construction is effective communication. The guy did that, and entertainingly [sic]. He painted a picture -- HIS picture. If you don't like the way he did it, paint your own.

What you wrote today is going to sound just as dated fifty years from now as his does today to you.[Points off for concluding a sentence with an ablative clause] Rolling Eyes

And when I think of how many [sic]s someone with you guys' [sic] mentality could paste on Jefferson's Declaration of Independence, my mind reels.

But you'd be saying more about you than about him.

Evil or Very Mad

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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:26 am

Yak wrote:
The bottom line of word choice and sentence construction is effective communication. The guy did that, and entertainingly [sic]. He painted a picture -- HIS picture. If you don't like the way he did it, paint your own.

What you wrote today is going to sound just as dated fifty years from now as his does today to you.[Points off for concluding a sentence with an ablative clause] Rolling Eyes

And when I think of how many [sic]s someone with you guys' [sic] mentality could paste on Jefferson's Declaration of Independence, my mind reels.

But you'd be saying more about you than about him.

Evil or Very Mad

What a Face

Thank you for maintaining a high level of discourse here on the forums!

I'll admit, I am not well educated. A fact I am well aware of.

Glad I could provide you with the fodder you need to express your crankiness.
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:29 am

Rich: don't mind Yak, he gets that way from time to time. None of us are perfect and we all have our flaws - including him.


Anyway...

While I regularly use Hickory, Cherry, or Mesquite chunks in the Weber Smokey Mountain, I'm not sure how a burning ember of Oak or Maple would affect my bowl of Peterson's Irish Whiskey in the evening. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:45 am

TheSmokeamater wrote:
Yak wrote:
The bottom line of word choice and sentence construction is effective communication. The guy did that, and entertainingly [sic]. He painted a picture -- HIS picture. If you don't like the way he did it, paint your own.

What you wrote today is going to sound just as dated fifty years from now as his does today to you.[Points off for concluding a sentence with an ablative clause] Rolling Eyes

And when I think of how many [sic]s someone with you guys' [sic] mentality could paste on Jefferson's Declaration of Independence, my mind reels.

But you'd be saying more about you than about him.

Evil or Very Mad

What a Face

Thank you for maintaining a high level of discourse here on the forums!

I'll admit, I am not well educated. A fact I am well aware of.

Glad I could provide you with the fodder you need to express your crankiness.

LOL [sic]
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:07 pm

Yak wrote:
The bottom line of word choice and sentence construction is effective communication. The guy did that, and entertainingly [sic]. He painted a picture -- HIS picture. If you don't like the way he did it, paint your own.

What you wrote today is going to sound just as dated fifty years from now as his does today to you.[Points off for concluding a sentence with an ablative clause] Rolling Eyes

And when I think of how many [sic]s someone with you guys' [sic] mentality could paste on Jefferson's Declaration of Independence, my mind reels.

But you'd be saying more about you than about him.

Evil or Very Mad

What a Face

Give the poor old guy some slack, At his age what else would you expect Razz
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:18 pm

Geez, is it manstruation time around here? Laughing

Good, I'm glad it's not just me. I feel the need to knit, suddenly.

Cool
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:22 pm

Kyle Weiss wrote:
Geez, is it manstruation time around here? Laughing

Good, I'm glad it's not just me. I feel the need to knit, suddenly.

Cool
Whatcha gonna knit? A pipe cozy? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:24 pm

DrT999 wrote:

Whatcha gonna knit? A pipe cozy? Very Happy

With a cat design on it! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:32 pm

At the risk of upsetting the Earth's magnetic field by Kaplan actually addressing the OP's topic rather than the tangent, I've never had the opportunity to light with an ember, but once or twice I've used a car's cigarette lighter in my bowl. It works surprisingly well.
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:34 pm

OOOOOOH ! A pipe cozy Twisted Evil Do you use real wool or acrylic yarns for yours Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:58 pm

Real wool, and nothing less.

GK brings up a good point. Last autumn, I did try using an ember to light my pipe with a pair of medial tweezers, from a mellow fire of oak. I dropped the ember in the bowl, it sunk down a good centimeter, I couldn't get it back out again, and the rest of my bowl tasted like oak-aged tobacco. It performed okay, but I'm still not sure if I enjoyed or hated the flavor. Laughing My solution was to drink more scotch. So I think I just didn't care, and the flavors certainly didn't conflict.

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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:09 pm

Kyle Weiss wrote:
Real wool, and nothing less.

GK brings up a good point. Last autumn, I did try using an ember to light my pipe with a pair of medial tweezers, from a mellow fire of oak. I dropped the ember in the bowl, it sunk down a good centimeter, I couldn't get it back out again, and the rest of my bowl tasted like oak-aged tobacco. It performed okay, but I'm still not sure if I enjoyed or hated the flavor. Laughing My solution was to drink more scotch. So I think I just didn't care, and the flavors certainly didn't conflict.

Cool

Don't they age Scotch in oak barrels? Sounds like they were made for each other !
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:13 pm

Kyle Weiss wrote:
My solution was to drink more scotch. So I think I just didn't care, and the flavors certainly didn't conflict.

Cool



Everything is better with a little more Scotch! Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:14 pm

monbla256 wrote:

Don't they age Scotch in oak barrels? Sounds like they were made for each other !

Moon rocks, actually. It's aged with moon rocks. cyclops

Mix a little sawdust from the next woodworking project with your McKetchup VAs, I'm sure you'll catch what I experienced. Or end up finding out what a forest fire tastes like. Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:19 pm

Kyle Weiss wrote:
monbla256 wrote:

Don't they age Scotch in oak barrels? Sounds like they were made for each other !

Moon rocks, actually. It's aged with moon rocks. cyclops

Mix a little sawdust from the next woodworking project with your McKetchup VAs, I'm sure you'll catch what I experienced. Or end up finding out what a forest fire tastes like. Laughing


I just light up something with Burley in it for that forrest fire experience Razz
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:27 pm

monbla256 wrote:
I just light up something with Burley in it for that forrest fire experience Razz

So you want me to pick you up a couple ounces of 1-Q the next time I hit the B&M? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:31 pm

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monbla256 wrote:
I just light up something with Burley in it for that forrest fire experience Razz

So you want me to pick you up a couple ounces of 1-Q the next time I hit the B&M? Very Happy
OK, just go ahead and bomb Kyle with it for me will ya Razz BTW re-label it "Smokers Delight" so he won't guess what it is cheers
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:38 pm

Y'all are gonna catch hell from all the 1Q fans, now. :loL:
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:39 pm

Kyle Weiss wrote:
Y'all are gonna catch hell from all the 1Q fans, now. :loL:

Yup - that would be me. Guilty as charged... Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: A lighting techinque you must try   Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:45 pm

I've never tried it. The descriptions and notes everyone has on it seem good, I just think it's too sweet for me.

I wonder what oak embers would do for it...
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