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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:39 pm

Yeah and if only my pecker was 8 inches longer I coulda been in the porn industry. What coulda been and if only don't mean Crap in the NFL.
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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:50 pm

Not argued. But if you're assessing the team, you look beyond the score :

Rebecca "Mama" Rollet wrote:
Last night was a disappointment, no doubt. If the circumstances had been otherwise—in other words, if Peyton Manning was known for sure to be back to his old self—not many people would have taken the Steelers to win the game. A minority did, anyhow—the line yesterday was Broncos by 1.5.

But if one could have forecast the actual events of the game, especially the loss of two fifths of the starting offensive line, with said two fifths being both at the right end—no one with any intelligence, looking at the phenomenal pass rushers the Broncos have, would have given the Steelers a chance to even keep it close.

And make no mistake, it was not only close, but winnable, at least until a gassed and depleted offensive line finally became porous enough to allow an undue amount of pressure on Roethlisberger. It would have helped, naturally, if the Broncos’ defense had not so greatly improved in run defense over the offseason. It would have also helped if the Steelers’ run defense hadn’t been quite so generous to Willis McGahee. It would have also helped if James Harrison and Ryan Clark had been on the field. But in football you play the hand you’re dealt, and, all things considered, I thought the Steelers played it well, right up until about 2:10 on the play clock.

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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:33 pm

Not intending to be an ass... BUT.. Steelers 0-1 Thats the only thing that matters
Right now they are the same spot as cincinasty, Miami, Kansas City, Tennessee. 0-1


Thats one of the things I love about the NFL. You can what if, coulda been, shoulda been, and quote 50 million others.. but at the end of the day a W or L is all that matters. I cant remember who it was but I heard an interview with a player once and he was asked "Whats the most important stat in the game?" His answer.. "The score at the final whistle."

Luck, skill, injury, madden bullshit (when the AI does something stupid in the Madden 13) it's interesting, but it doesn't matter.
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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:29 am

In case you missed the Ravens last night, that is how you win a Game 1.

Love the Brown jokes; I will be sending them to the two Brownie fans in my office.

It looks like I'll be making a little trip to New Orleans in January.........
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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:15 am

Bawlmer looked like Bawlmer = Ray Lewis on a team that plays up to its potential. That's a formula they can go far with. Because teams like the Steelers, with much greater potential, play down to the level of their competition, make mistakes, don't have their shit together, don't game plan well, don't adjust, and depend on a few standouts like Roethlisberger, Wallace & Polamalu to save their sorry asses after 58 minutes of under-acheivement by players and coaches alike.

Same with the Bengals . . . kind of, on a reduced scale.

Consistency. :pullinghair:

PeeB : nobody disputes that the score counts and the rest is words. Nobody disputes we blew dogs against Manning. But even so, two plays and the score is a "W." That's the consolation I come away with. The problem is definable and fix-able --not hopeless.

How much would the Brownies have to fix, all at the same time, to threaten the AFCN status quo ?

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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:50 am

Riff Raff.. Bragging about looking good vs Cincinasty? scratch scratch scratch Yeah.
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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:54 pm

puros_bran wrote:
Riff Raff.. Bragging about looking good vs Cincinasty? scratch scratch scratch Yeah.

Hey, it could be our last win of the season......can you blame me?
That red-headed stepchild of a QB for Cincy had our D gasping for air for a quarter or so. That doesn't bode well for when we face an experienced QB...
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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:30 pm

A lot of surprises this week ! Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:51 am

Joe Donatelli wrote:
On the plus side—and there isn’t always a plus side following a Browns loss, sometimes there is just a negative side and an even more negative side, which might be called an integer (I don’t know, I am not good at math, and apparently I am not good at English either, because I just put a parenthetical comment inside an em-dash in what is rapidly becoming a run-on-sentence)—it appears that Week 1 total draft busts Brandon Weeden and Trent Richardson are legit.

http://brownsfansteelersfan.wordpress.com/

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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:32 am

Bellicheat Last Night :

Stoney wrote:
"He wasn't touching a ref, he was picking a scab."


I love union humor.

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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:12 am

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Sad fact

The Raiders and the Broncos are 3-11 in their last 14 games combined.

The three wins? Versus the Steelers.


Twisted Evil

Our defense is so complicated that it takes new guys three years to learn it. But it's so inflexible that quarterbacks who've faced it before can easily pick it apart. It's THAT predictable. They see how we're lined up, audible, and they're off to the races.

We can't run worth sh*t. Same story there.

Our only weapon is Ben. Because he's so unpredictable (especially after the play breaks down) he's indefensible.

Sad.

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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:11 pm

Lombardi’s favorite play was his “power sweep.” John Madden recalled a coaching seminar he attended that featured a lecture by Lombardi on the play.
“I went in there cocky thinking I knew everything there was to know about football,” reflected Madden who was a young assistant at the time, “and he spent eight hours talking about this one play. He talked for four hours, took a break and came back and talked four more.” Madden shook his head. “I realized then that I actually knew nothing about football.”

Mind you at this time Madden had coached DI for 7 years and had just been hired to coach the Raiders.

http://www.pghsportsforum.com/forum/showthread.php/14907-Time-To-Stop-Blaming-The-Defensive-Scheme-When-You-Don-t-Understad-What-The-Scheme-Does?s=086fd519e82ca6500af08b5ec6a5ae4f

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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:14 pm

Told you about Cleveland, Peeb !

All the Cleveland suckitude's draining away away into Pittsburgh.

Your future is bright Cool

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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:15 pm

It's a TRAP GAME ! affraid

Sam Mellinger (Kansas City Star) :

SAN DIEGO -- Keep in mind the Chargers stink too, guys. Their quarterback turns it over too much, their roster is declining and their coach will probably soon be fired. But the Chargers’ is a more conventional brand of stink.

The NFL smells the Chargers’ kind of stink all the time, and it’s a significant stink. But by now we all know there is nothing quite as putrid as the Chiefs’ reliably rotten stink. We’re part of history here, you know: An up-close look at the kind of relentless, tenacious, opening-kickoff-to-final-whistle, never-take-a-snap-off stink against which all future generations of terrible teams will be judged.

This fireable offense of a Chiefs season made its prime-time debut on Thursday night, every misstep and fumble and failure of a 31-13 loss to the (not quite as) sorry Chargers broadcast in high-definition to what we can assume was a horrified national audience.

This season is so far noteworthy for the historic achievement of going half a season without holding a lead in regulation, and for turning Romeo Crennel from a dignified and accomplished man to one painfully without answers about how he steered a talented team into oncoming traffic.

“Nah,” he says when asked if the team is a week closer to hopelessness.

The Chiefs are not just the worst team in the NFL. They’re building a case as one of the worst in modern NFL history — especially if the overmatched head coach is allowed to keep trying to fix things with silly signs telling his guys to PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL.

The only drama left is whether the Chiefs will ever lead a game, and when owner Clark Hunt will break his silence to fire a coach who looks clueless and a general manager who obsesses over everything but quarterbacks.

Sickening and disgusting. The Chiefs are clearly not gladiators.

You surely know the incredible fact that has come to define this group of underachieving, badly coached and micromanaged losers: They haven’t held a lead in any part of their first eight games, the first team to be so thoroughly overmatched since at least 1929.

That’s nineteen-twenty-nine — the year of the (original) stock market crash. To give you an idea, in 1929, the NFL included teams in Frankford, Pa.; Staten Island, N.Y.; and Dayton, Ohio.

This is achievement of incompetence is at once both stunning and unfathomable. Even the winless Lions of 2008 managed a few leads. Actually, by this point in their flawlessly inept season, the Lions had leads in four games — including three in the fourth quarter. That team had occasional hope. This one squashes such silliness at every opportunity.

To do what the Chiefs are doing requires a perfect conspiracy of unpreparedness, ineffectiveness and whatever is the complete opposite of surgical focus — stoner focus, maybe?

You have to do things like be outscored 61-6 in the first quarter — a pretty good sign the coaches are in over their heads — while still being able to channel your substantial failures at just the wrong times.

You need a quarterback like Matt Cassel to fumble the snap at the goal line with your team threatening to take a lead against the Ravens. You need a punt returner like Javier Arenas to whiff an easy catch at precisely the wrong moment to throw momentum to the Raiders.

And you can afford to have a talented receiver like Dwayne Bowe, but only if the bulk of his production comes on garbage drives at the ends of blowouts — extra credit if he makes a fool of himself by pointing to the name on the back of his jersey — and you can count on him to fumble near the red zone when the score is close against the Chargers.

You need one quarterback who has as many or more turnovers than all but one NFL team (not including his own) and another one who is worse. You need an offense that can put together 17-play drives without scoring.

You need a team in such disarray that the star running back gets 39 touches in one game and five carries in another, the head coach openly and repeatedly says he doesn’t know what’s going on, and the owner stays silent behind the scenes trying to decide when to step in.

You need a team that’s become such a punch line in some football circles that the coach who got fired last year is jokingly called “Vince Lombardi with a dirty cap” by one personnel man while comparing the current carnage.

Kansas City sports fans have taken some misguided criticism this fall, but maybe now the football world can see what drives people to fly banners over the stadium calling for the general manager to be fired.

That’s looking more and more likely, by the way. Hunt doesn’t want to fire Scott Pioli, but he doesn’t like to be embarrassed either. The Chiefs are now nine days from what looks to be an ugly Monday night loss in Pittsburgh as Todd Haley presumably pushes his Steelers offense to score a thousand points.

Remember that a week ago, the Chargers lost to the Browns and the week before that blew a 24-point lead at home. The Raiders lost four of their first six games before beating the Chiefs, and the Bucs lost 12 of their previous 13 before beating the Chiefs.

This isn’t a football team — it’s a slump buster in pads.

The Chiefs, with a thorough, consistent and no-snaps-off incompetence that the league has never seen, can no longer be talked about in a serious manner. Not until Hunt takes serious action, anyway.

Maybe the next coach can call a play with the lead. Maybe the next general manager will worry more about the quarterback than candy wrappers.

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/11/02...#storylink=cpy
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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:08 am

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It's a TRAP GAME ! affraid

Called THAT one ! Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:58 pm

And THAT, friends, was the Steelers. They only show up every once in a blue moon these days. But when they do, and you're from da burgh, it's a thing of heart-touching beauty.

23/20 over Baltimore with our third-string quarterback at the helm, our center playing left guard and an offensive lineman off the practice squad.

In Baltimore. affraid

See yinz in January. Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:47 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:24 pm

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PITTSBURGH—Steelers third-string quarterback Charlie Batch told reporters Wednesday that he still felt completely humiliated by the shame of nearly losing to Baltimore Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco in week 13.

“Oh my God, I can’t believe that I had to put together a 61-yard drive in the closing minutes just to beat Joe Flacco,” said the absolutely mortified 38-year-old, who has recorded 61 touchdowns and 52 interceptions during a NFL career spent almost entirely as a backup. “That could have been the last game I ever started or even played in. If you lose to Joe Flacco, you know it’s all over. There’s just no way you can call yourself a pro quarterback after that.”

Ravens wide receiver Anquan Boldin expressed empathy for Batch, admitting that he often feels totally embarrassed to be seen in the same huddle with him.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/charlie-batch-totally-embarrassed-after-almost-los,30634/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=standard-post:headline:default

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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:28 pm

Are the Steelers' problems connected to larger trends in the NFL?
By Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Dec 13

There are more questions here than answers, but I think these are questions worth asking as we continue traveling through a December where it becomes increasingly unclear what we may be witnessing from week to week. Of course, there is enough drama and pathology involving our own team that it's difficult to pay much attention to anyone else. However, if and when you do our situation doesn't appear so atypical.

Rookie quarterbacks. Brandon Weeden and Ryan Tannehill are in the process of leading their teams to relative respectability in a short period of time. But this is nothing compared to what Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III are accomplishing in Seattle, Indianapolis and Washington respectively. Luck and Griffin in particular are not only in the conversation for Rookie Offensive Player of the Year, they are in serious discussion for league MVP. So here's the question: when did it become so easy for a rookie quarterback to walk into this league and dominate? Elway didn't do this, Peyton Manning neither. The reason that teams like the Colts and the Redskins get quarterbacks high in the draft like Luck and RG III is precisely because their teams suck. Their teams along with Wilson's Seahawks are all comfortably in the playoff discussion.

It is precisely this trend that renders outdated the notion that Pittsburgh should be seeking to find a backup quarterback to groom as a replacement for Ben Roethlisberger. Groom? How bad would you have to be at this stage of the game to have to be groomed? If you can't step in with a bad or mediocre team and make them immediately competitive then what the hell's wrong with you?

I invite you to consider Matt Flynn. Remember him? He represented the old thinking. He was being groomed behind Aaron Rodgers at Green Bay and there would be this bidding war for his services which Seattle won. Then he got beat out in training camp by this undersized rookie from Wisconsin who wasn't even an afterthought in the 2012 quarterback sweepstakes. No problem, Pete Carroll is crazy. Wilson will fall on his face after a few games playing for real and it'll be Flynn, right? Honestly, when was the last time you even thought about Flynn before reading this paragraph?

So, one of the things that we have become fond of saying lately is that the Steelers seem to be capable of losing to anyone, which is certainly true. But the standards seem to be radically changing. Let's consider Baltimore for a moment.

The Ravens. I've been trying to wrap my mind around why the Ravens would make the fairly drastic move of firing a coach, not a relatively minor position coach, but their offensive coordinator, mind you in December when they are on the cusp of a division championship and a playoff run. Then I took into consideration their last four games. We're concerned about what the Steelers are doing?

They come into the big game against Pittsburgh right after Ben suffers an injury that people are using terms such as 'potentially life threatening' to describe. Ha, ha! It sucks to be Pittsburgh. They'll waltz into Heinz Field and whip a little booty. The game starts with backup quarterback Byron Leftwich doing his RG III imitation and running through the vaunted Ravens defense for a touchdown. Byron Leftwich! Then in Three Stooges/Keystone Cops fashion he falls over his own feet and injures himself. And then, in spite of playing with two broken ribs manages to still compete. It takes a special teams play and a Mike Wallace turnover to bailout the Ravens. They go to San Diego and need a miracle 4th and 29 conversion from Ray Rice in overtime to save themselves there. We're not paying attention because we're still mad about Byron and then there was Cleveland.

They expect to wrap up the division hosting Ben-less Pittsburgh, now led by octogenarian third string quarterback Charlie Batch. And they lose. They also lose arguably their best player Terrell Suggs. We're not the only team with injury issues. Next up is the easiest of their final four opponents, Washington. This a team that in a lucid moment the Steelers handled rather easily. No reason not to believe that the Ravens could at least match that level of mastery. Well, as they are saying these days in the DC area, the Ravens didn't lose to a rookie quarterback, they lost to two. With the Broncos, Giants and Bengals coming up would anyone be surprised if they didn't win another game? But the way things are going this year they could win out as well and it wouldn't be anymore surprising.

Cincinnati. You're the Bengals. You're playing the Cowboys at home. Dallas has been pretty feckless of late, and besides, they have other issues, such as one teammate dead, another in jail for killing him. You have them down late in the fourth quarter. You notice that Pittsburgh, the team that you are chasing for a playoff spot is, unexpectedly, getting their butts kicked at home. All you have to do is hang on to your lead and you're in clover. And then you lose in the last second.

Houston. You're making your claim to be the new bad boys of the AFC. You're gonna go up to New England and show those pretenders who have been getting fat off the likes of Mark Sanchez what's what. It was unwatchable. They made the Steelers, Ravens and Bengals look competent.

New England. Please don't get started on this. Let's look at it this way; you have supposedly a surefire Hall of Fame coach, and a surefire Hall of Fame quarterback. Collectively you haven't won a championship since Ben Roethlisberger was a rookie. Your greatest accomplishment in that time is that you have been singlehandedly responsible for putting Eli Manning into the Hall of Fame and instigated endless arguments in the Manning Clan as to who is, in fact, the best quarterback in the family. And you got Plaxico Burress a ring as well, which probably helped while he was in jail. Imagine what the lunatic, zero tolerance, what-have-you-done-for-me-lately wing of Steeler Nation would do with these guys. Ask Mike Tomlin. Ask Bill Cowher. Ask Chuck Noll. Ask Terry Bradshaw. Ask Ben.

San Francisco. Grantland's Bill Barnwell makes the case that Jim Harbaugh is the most valuable asset in the NFL. By acquiring Harbaugh, the 49ers created value for themselves in a way that is virtually impossible to match. They might, in fact, have the single most valuable asset in all of football.

Really? This year's 49ers' record against division rival St Louis. One tie, one loss.

Chicago. Chicago? They got beat worse than Houston by the 49ers.

Atlanta? Smacked by Cam Newton and the same group of Carolina Panthers that lost the previous week to grieving Kansas City, who got blown out by grieving Cleveland last week (things were pretty morbid in Ohio). Indianapolis? Denver? The Giants? At this stage in the game who do you have confidence in, really?

Granted, Pittsburgh may not be going anywhere but home for the holidays.

Would I trade their supposedly deeply flawed head coach for Bill Belichick or Jim Harbaugh? Ah, no. Would I trade their fragile offensive line, their butterfingered, petulant running backs, their ancient defense led by their even older coordinator, their grasping, grabby special teams, Vaudevillian quarterback play, their talented, but inconsistent receivers for anybody else's hand in the National Football League? Nah, I think I'll ride this Steeler thing out and see where it takes me.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2012/12/13/3762202/are-the-steelers-problems-connected-to-larger-trends-in-the-nfl

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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:50 pm

Madcatwb wrote:
The boogie man goes to bed worrying that James Harrison is hiding in his closet. The dude is scary.

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PostSubject: Re: Might As Well Get Started   Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:49 pm

Nice going, Bawlmer !

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