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i.keenum

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PostSubject: Re: New Project...Two Malaysian Parangs   New Project...Two Malaysian Parangs - Page 2 EmptyWed Oct 31, 2012 6:40 pm

There you go making me all jealous. How is the grip on the smaller parang.
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PostSubject: Re: New Project...Two Malaysian Parangs   New Project...Two Malaysian Parangs - Page 2 EmptyWed Oct 31, 2012 7:35 pm

How is it? In what way?

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PostSubject: Re: New Project...Two Malaysian Parangs   New Project...Two Malaysian Parangs - Page 2 EmptyThu Nov 01, 2012 9:19 am

Meant does it ever feel like it's slipping? Can you get a solid hold on it?
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PostSubject: Re: New Project...Two Malaysian Parangs   New Project...Two Malaysian Parangs - Page 2 EmptyThu Nov 01, 2012 2:38 pm

OH! Well, I haven't gone out 'whacking' with it as yet, but the antler actually has a very non-slick feel to it...and the curved shape has a really natural feel in the hand.

I've read, in a blog done by a guy in Malaysia that sells these things and has extensive blog entries about their shapes and use and re-handling, etc. that the natives that use them daily have a specific and unique technique which involves allowing the piece to kind of rotate in the hand slightly when chopping (they are a chopping tool).

The following are links to some really interesting photos done by Jason, who runs Outdoor Dynamics (the Malaysian outfit that sells these things. Other links follow. On the photo page, scroll down to "Blacksmith at Bidor".

http://jasonongsg.multiply.com/photos

This next site is the motherlode for information on Parangs - per the Malaysian connection...tons of good information. Check out the Sept. 24 entry, re: grips, etc.

http://www.junglecraft.com.my/index.php/category/gear/machete/




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PostSubject: Re: New Project...Two Malaysian Parangs   New Project...Two Malaysian Parangs - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 03, 2012 10:37 am

I've read where some guys will take old files and grind them down to knives, heard anything about that?
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PostSubject: Re: New Project...Two Malaysian Parangs   New Project...Two Malaysian Parangs - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 03, 2012 11:03 am

Sure... File steel makes a great knife...but it has to be annealed (heated to make it soft enough to work, instead of brittle) then you grind or file or sand it to shape, then it needs a second heat process to realign the crystal structure (heated til it's non-magnetic) and then a last heating in an oven at low temperature. In trying to grind down a file you would be working against steel's hardest form. So soften it to work it then bring back the hardness to hold an edge but without the brittleness of file steel. Simple!

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PostSubject: Re: New Project...Two Malaysian Parangs   New Project...Two Malaysian Parangs - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 03, 2012 1:10 pm

Is that sarcasm, or you could tackle that? I know little to none about that stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: New Project...Two Malaysian Parangs   New Project...Two Malaysian Parangs - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 03, 2012 1:58 pm

It's not sarcasm at all. You can do the annealing and the heat treating with a torch...usually an oxy-acetylene setup (which I don't have as they are quite expensive - at least for my budget). I have an oxy-ethylene outfit (about $60 at Home Depot, Lowe's, etc.) that isn't ideal, but will get up to temp. The slow heating after the main heat treating is done in a kitchen oven set at something like 400 F for a half hour (I have to read up on that to remember exactly what the specs are) but then you just turn the oven off and let the steel sit there overnight til the oven is room temp and that's it. It's the torch work that's touchy...and then the quenching in oil, etc. Again, there are TONS of 'how-to's' on the internet.

Here's a few pics of the project I have and the one that the friend sent. Obviously, his is the large one. The cool thing you'll notice is that these still have the indents from the file cuts in place to give a surface texture. I love the effect. They are made from a file that's a rasp on one side and a file on the other (as you can see). The big one is in the form of what I call a "Canadian Skinner" - very traditional American/Canadian form. Mine is being made as a mate to it...a very large 'Caping' kind of blade. Notice along the top of my blade, I left the file grooves that were on the edge of the file in place, to be used a 'finger ridges' that provide grip for the forefinger or thumb while working. You have to look closely as they are hard to see with my crumby photos. They're on the straight part just behind the upsweep on the top of the blade. His came with a sheath (not shown) that I may add to with a piece of leather into which my blade will fit, forming a sheath into which both blades fit. I think I've got that pretty much worked out, but it's still in pieces. I also included a shot of mine "exploded" that shows the tang, black micarta guard and antler handle as seperated pieces, to give you a feel for how they were fit together.


The pics:

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