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Noreaster



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PostSubject: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:07 am

OK. I just had a thought. I hate, detest, loath the sight, smell and even sound of cigarette smoking! However, as a fledgling Pipe smoker not only am i (we) lumped in with them Statistically:

Do you Smoke?
a) yes
b) no
c) Occasionally I take smoke into my mouth to taste it but don't inhale and don't rip an ounce or two of tobacco through my lungs each day and my smoke has a "room note" not a stench
See that third one? NOT a real answer. Besides the social lumping there is the physical lumping! There is only one "smoking" section. Not one for butts, one for pipes and one for cigars (not even one for Hookah!) I don't really want to sit for a half hour in a cloud of Newport smoke as three or four successive shifts of butt-ripers parade through the Designated Zone.

Separate But Equal Smoker's Rights NOW!!
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:24 am

You had better stand with them and fight. Divide and conquer works.
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kaiser83

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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:59 am

Smoke lat blends and blow smoke in their direction. We'll see who wins the day.
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:51 pm

kaiser83 wrote:
Smoke lat blends and blow smoke in their direction. We'll see who wins the day.

Or...smoke nice, sweet aros and blow smoke in their direction. You might win them over. cheers
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kaiser83

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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:56 pm

Buckshot wrote:
kaiser83 wrote:
Smoke lat blends and blow smoke in their direction. We'll see who wins the day.

Or...smoke nice, sweet aros and blow smoke in their direction. You might win them over. cheers

Thanks a lot Buckshot, now I look like the jerk. I still like my way better, but to each his own lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:10 pm

Many of the greatest pleasures in life are illegal, immoral or smelly.

Smoking pipes is number three with number one looming on the horizon.

cat + What a Face
OREO & YAK
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:15 pm

Noreaster wrote:
OK. I just had a thought. I hate, detest, loath the sight, smell and even sound of cigarette smoking! However, as a fledgling Pipe smoker not only am i (we) lumped in with them Statistically:

Do you Smoke?
a) yes
b) no
c) Occasionally I take smoke into my mouth to taste it but don't inhale and don't rip an ounce or two of tobacco through my lungs each day and my smoke has a "room note" not a stench
See that third one? NOT a real answer. Besides the social lumping there is the physical lumping! There is only one "smoking" section. Not one for butts, one for pipes and one for cigars (not even one for Hookah!) I don't really want to sit for a half hour in a cloud of Newport smoke as three or four successive shifts of butt-ripers parade through the Designated Zone.

Separate But Equal Smoker's Rights NOW!!

Though you may rightfully detest cig smokeing, we ALL are in the same boat and the ANTI folks DON"T diferentiate btwn the differences and WON'T as they are AGINST ANY TOBACCO ! So be thankfull for the cig guys as they are enough in number at this time to get "smoking" areas in play. Just learn to share as we are all fighting an up-hill battle in this Razz
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George Kaplan

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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:16 pm

Noreaster wrote:
Besides the social lumping there is the physical lumping! There is only one "smoking" section.

What is this "smoking section" of which you speak?
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Hermit

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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:18 pm

puros_bran wrote:
You had better stand with them and fight. Divide and conquer works.


Yeah, you right!
We're in this together.
We're smokers, dammit! Twisted Evil

(Even though cigarette smoke stinks and
I hate the litter, I support smoking.)

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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:21 pm

Yak wrote:
Many of the greatest pleasures in life are illegal, immoral or smelly.




lol!
That would make a terrific Sig line.
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:19 pm

All Yours.

Go for it, Fish Cool

What a Face + cat
YAK & OREO
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beetlejazz

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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:09 pm

I used to smoke cigs, now I smoke pipes, but my identity has stayed the same - I identify as a smoker.
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idbowman

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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:33 pm

puros_bran wrote:
You had better stand with them and fight. Divide and conquer works.

This, this, this, this, and this. Like cigs or no, every time pipe/cigar smokers don't support cig smokers, we're really just screwing ourselves.
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Doc Manhattan

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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:53 pm

I will always stand by a fellow lover of the leaf, however he or she may enjoy it.

But I do try to discourage cig-smoking friends from buying Philip Morris/Altria brands, given that company's Faustian bargain to support Federal tobacco legislation.

(And then I tell 'em to try a pipe, but that's just the usual evangelism.)
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KevinM



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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:00 pm

The nazis are anti-smoking and anti-tobacco. Cig smokers are, therefore, potential allies, even if you don't like sitting downwind of them. The reason the nazis haven't gotten around to us, yet, is simply that the enemy is attacking the greater numbers first. They consider pipers a mere mopping up action after victory in the larger battle. Do nothing to alienate allies, and support them when possible.
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Noreaster



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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:44 pm

Right! The enemy of my enemy is my friend. All I'm saying is that, just because I have begun to enjoy the pipe doesn't meen that I will want to be in the smoking areas anyone than I did before. Of course, at this point at least, pipe smoking is a total hoby for me and I can take or leave the N as it pleases me.
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:28 am

idbowman wrote:
puros_bran wrote:
You had better stand with them and fight. Divide and conquer works.

This, this, this, this, and this. Like cigs or no, every time pipe/cigar smokers don't support cig smokers, we're really just screwing ourselves.

This, I am sorry to say it took me a little bit to fully understand this. Even though I never thought it necessary to make cigs illegal, now that I smoke I appreciate all the more their feeling when something like the city making the local parks smoke free zones. The stupidity. I do not in the least like cig smoke. I detest it. But I would rather occasionally smell a little than see an ill-conceived draconian "response" to it.
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:13 pm

At first glance, a pipe or cigar smoker might sum up the situation, by thinking to themselves, that if cigarettes had never been invented, we as pipe and cigar smokers might not be in this boat.

After all, it has been documented that cigarette smoking, unlike pipe and cigar smoking is highly addictive, due to the added chemicals used to induce the "nicotine rush" associated with cigarettes.

Add to that the statistics, on the cost to the health care industry, due to the high number of cigarette smokers in the U.S.

However, if you will research history, the anti smokers have always had the desire to quash tobacco consumption, long before cigarettes became extremely popular in the early 1900's.

The truth is, the anti smoker will voice their disdain, if for no other reason, than to simply call us "stinky."

Some people will always have the need to clean up their neighbors back yard, with total disregard for their own, and I believe the majority of them suffer from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:34 pm

Dutch wrote:

The truth is, the anti smoker will voice their disdain, if for no other reason, than to simply call us "stinky."
This is by the way one of my pet peeves. I wonder why the rules of common courtesy stop applying when when there's a smoker around. Personally I find many people excruciatingly boring and stupid, but I won't inform them about this. I would also fight for their right to yap in public places, was that right ever under threat.
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Kyle Weiss

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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:27 pm

Cigarette smoker: Someone who I avoid while smoking if at all possible, yet have no issue with their choice.

Cigarette industry: Folks who shot themselves in the foot repeatedly by being so secretive, lucrative and envelope-pushing (as almost any large corporation will) to effect the bottom line. It's kind of like voting--you just encourage the bad sh*t to keep happening, but doing nothing makes you a sucker.

Tobacco: Something people should be able to enjoy however and whenever they choose, within reason.

Anti-smoker: Someone with more time on their hands than sense in their head, probably the tattle-tale kid from the playground that no one liked. Goes out of their way to find new and inventive ways to "protect" the "non-smoker" no matter how ridiculous the claims are. Fanatics.
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Non-smoker: Someone who simply doesn't use tobacco products, and shouldn't necessarily be subjected to tobacco use's by-products while trying to exist.

Reasonable thoughts of a reasonable citizen: Smoking in its proper place, designated and/or set aside for those who wish to do so, in a comfortable, decent area, away from non-smokers, categories that separate distinctive tobacco products, sub-industries/sales and usage, be they government regulation or tax, and said tax and/or regulation with the intended purpose of direct taxation productivity and sensibility rather than forced prohibition or punishment of either a tobacco grower, producer, seller or user.


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MisterE
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no! Pipes are for SMOKERS!!   Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:58 pm

Good post Kyle. I agree.
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