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Brewdude

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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:12 pm

IIRC there was a major tax increase on RYO , which prompted the RYO producers to re-classify their product as pipe tobacco as a tax dodge. That's what started it. Legitimate bulk pipe 'baccy is now under fire as a result.

Can tinned be far behind as the RYO producers look to other dodges to sell their product?

The issue is, what can we as pipe smokers do? I've written my legislators, but it falls on deaf ears.

Disgusting, IMO!

Evil or Very Mad


Bah!

RR


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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:31 pm

I've written the same and got the canned response on how they disagree and the blah blah reasons why. I'd like to copy paste that reason and respond to them why my vote will go to someone else next election.
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:54 pm

Fight'n Hampsters wrote:
Dutch wrote:
One way to possibly circumvent this process is to use your Paypal account to directly draft from your checking account, if things go from bad to worse.

I think I remember Just For Him has said that PayPal wouldn't let them use thier services either.

Mad Mad Mad

My PP account is linked to my checking account.

4Noggins, CI, JR, P&C, and Cup O' Joes all take PP.
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:17 am

Well, just in case the axe is falling, I've ordered an extra 6 months-worth of tobacco from different providers Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:50 am

Mr Snuff is starting to use this http://www.clickandbuy.com/WW_en/home.html

I think you can have it tied to your credit card and it is an easy work around the credit card "bans" if a store chooses to use it.
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:18 am

Mars Cigars has just been hit
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For the third time in the past 10 years, a credit card processor has decided to drop us, solely due to the fact that we sell tobacco products.
Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:29 am

DrT999 wrote:
Mars Cigars has just been hit
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For the third time in the past 10 years, a credit card processor has decided to drop us, solely due to the fact that we sell tobacco products.
Sad

Yep. The little order I just placed thursday is not coming..... No

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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:47 am

Puff Daddy wrote:
DrT999 wrote:
Mars Cigars has just been hit
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For the third time in the past 10 years, a credit card processor has decided to drop us, solely due to the fact that we sell tobacco products.
Sad

Yep. The little order I just placed thursday is not coming..... No

I wrote and tripled my last order, and will send a check
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:48 am

Is there anything that can be done? Only thing I know of is to become a member of CRA, Cigar Rights of America. Most of us know of them, but perhaps we aren't all members yet.

CRA is a grassroots organization that is fighting to preserve our rights to enjoy tobacco. If you aren't a member, I highly recommend becoming one.

http://www.cigarrights.org/
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:24 pm

DrT999 wrote:
Puff Daddy wrote:
DrT999 wrote:
Mars Cigars has just been hit
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For the third time in the past 10 years, a credit card processor has decided to drop us, solely due to the fact that we sell tobacco products.
Sad

Yep. The little order I just placed thursday is not coming..... No

I wrote and tripled my last order, and will send a check

Will they take a credit card order over the phone, or is it just on-line orders that are being stopped?
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:27 pm

The helpful person at Mars pointed out it is not the CC companies themselves, but rather the processor for the CC companies that pulled the plug (likely those companies mentioned in this thread had the same processor). I don't know if complaining to the CC companies or the banks issuing our cards would do any good or not. If you can, continue to patronize these companies while they arrange for new processors

I don't think they can process cc orders until they arrange new processors
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:46 pm

DrT999 wrote:
The helpful person at Mars pointed out it is not the CC companies themselves, but rather the processor for the CC companies that pulled the plug (likely those companies mentioned in this thread had the same processor). I don't know if complaining to the CC companies or the banks issuing our cards would do any good or not. If you can, continue to patronize these companies while they arrange for new processors

I don't think they can process cc orders until they arrange new processors

Different processors charge different percentages, and my guess is, tobacco is about to be charged a higher fee, than standard purchases. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:01 pm

I was enjoying my day until I read this thread....

I swear, if one more person does something for my own good....
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:34 pm

asmoke wrote:
I was enjoying my day until I read this thread....

I swear, if one more person does something for my own good....

Liberalism, socialism, and communism, are always for your own good. Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:58 pm

Good thing there are more processors.
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:21 pm

asmoke wrote:
Good thing there are more processors.

precisely... this issue seems come up now and again. in the end, vendor changes processor and all is right with the world.
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:10 pm

asmoke wrote:
I was enjoying my day until I read this thread....

I swear, if one more person does something for my own good....

I hear ya'! You guys would not even believe the hoops the insurance company is making all of the employees and retired employees jump through to stay insured! Without going into detail, "health coaches"... coming to a town near you. Just wait! Mad

"They're only here to help." Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:12 pm

We are all forgetting the most important people they are screwing, the men and women serving overseas who will be unable to get tobacco. Let's burn them down. Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:34 am

christeaux wrote:
We are all forgetting the most important people they are screwing, the men and women serving overseas who will be unable to get tobacco. Let's burn them down. Evil or Very Mad

The biggest attack on them was the thankfully short lived shipping bans I imagine - let's not forget that little gem of a law that made us fear shipping a few tins to a friend lest it be confiscated.

State bans against buying online (like Washington) are good reasons to move to one of the states that aren't in the habit of taking away the good times - although I doubt you can find one that won't tax that fun by the bucketload...
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:08 am

It appears we need some threads teaching "grow your own".
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:10 am

J Soshae wrote:
It appears we need some threads teaching "grow your own".

Growing it would be easy here, curing it right and finishing it would be the hard parts!
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:59 pm

J Soshae wrote:
It appears we need some threads teaching "grow your own".

With heavy concentration on curing and processing.

I have been giving that a lot more thought lately.
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:01 pm

DrT999 wrote:
J Soshae wrote:
It appears we need some threads teaching "grow your own".

Growing it would be easy here, curing it right and finishing it would be the hard parts!

I didn't see this post Laughing

Needless to say, I agree!
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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:37 pm

FYI

Got this email from JFH yesterday-


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A big hail to Rich from 4 Nog in an effort to help a competitor!

cheers



Cheers,

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PostSubject: Re: Credit Cards and Tobacco   Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:33 pm

Great to see that even in a competitive market place, the powers that be realize that we're all in this together.


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