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PostSubject: Re: Any brothers in harm's way? (Sandy hurricane)   Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:02 pm

Central CT Sandy report -- I think we've used up our luck for the rest of the year. We never lost power and there's no damage worth reporting, just a few hours of yard work. I have a year's supply of batteries and gas on hand, but I'll deal with it. Across the street a neighbor had a big pine tree come down at the base and take out his elec wires. Best wishes to people on the coast who got clobbered by the surge as well as those to the South of us. And now I think I'll take advantage of the tropical conditions and puff a bracing bowl of Wulke Rum Cake in my Upshall Dublin.

The word of the day on the forecasts was "Epic." "Sandy is Epic."
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PostSubject: Re: Any brothers in harm's way? (Sandy hurricane)   Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:39 pm

South of KevinM, a few miles from the shore, two bells and all is well. Never lost utilities of any sort. A piece of tin facing on one of our dormers went flying who-knows-where, and gutters that were already crap are still crap. Otherwise, no harm, no foul. Our luck has been good.

The power company did a very competent job applying the 6P Rule in the week leading up, and it has paid dividends.
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PostSubject: Re: Any brothers in harm's way? (Sandy hurricane)   Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:00 pm

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"This is not a typical storm," said Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett. "Essentially, this is a hurricane wrapped in a 'nor'easter.'"

Northerly track: Atlantic tropical storms most commonly tear through the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico, and lose energy as they pass over the U.S mainland. This storm, however, crept along the Eastern Seaboard, where waters that were warmer than usual for this time of year kept the storm alive. As the storm moved northward, it morphed into a hybrid storm, drawing additional strength from the differential between the storm's warm air and cold northern air from the jet stream.

"There's a transformation that this system is undergoing," Landsea explained. "This is actually evolving into a winter storm, and later, a nor'easter." One result of this evolution is that the storm system has widened to more than 800 miles in diameter, stretching from the Carolinas to Maine and Canada.

The left turn: Hurricanes that get so far north could drift off into the cold Atlantic to die — but they can also be pushed into the mainland, as Hurricane Irene was last year. Irene followed a path that was roughly parallel to the coastline, but Sandy took a hard left turn that put it on a course for a direct, perpendicular strike on the coast. That's because a cold front on the mainland is drawing the storm westward, while the current state of a weather pattern known as the North Atlantic Oscillation is blocking the storm from heading eastward.

Storm surge: Sandy's top sustained winds of 85 miles per hour typically wouldn't rate as a superstorm, but its effects will be magnified, Landsea said. "Even though it's not a 'major' hurricane by any means ... there is substantial threat because of the storm surge and because of the rainfall. There's going to be flooding. Both of those factors are going to be killers," he said. The storm surge is projected to range from 6 to 11 feet. One of the big reasons for such a high surge is that the waters off the coast of New York and New Jersey are so shallow: As the surge from the deeper ocean nears the coastline, all that water piles up to create a higher wave.

Full moon: Another reason for the huge storm surge is the fact that the moon is hitting its full phase just as Sandy is making landfall. The celestial lineup of the sun, moon and Earth contributes to higher-than-normal high tides.

(An all-time record tide level of 13.88 feet was set at The Battery in Lower Manhattan on Monday night, breaking the previous record of 11.2 feet in 1821).

Winter storm: Sandy is such a late-season storm that it's running into winter weather in the northeastern United States, which is adding an extra dimension to the misery. "I have not been around long enough to see a hurricane forecast with a snow advisory in it," Craig Fugate, administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, told NBC's TODAY. The storm could trigger up to 3 feet of snow in the Appalachians, the National Weather Service reported. The Weather Channel's Tom Niziol said that "an amazing combination of factors" have come together to make Sandy a threat due to the snow as well as the rain.

Landsea and other forecasters may marvel at the factors behind what some have called a "perfect storm" or "Frankenstorm," and there'll surely be lots of lessons learned for future weather modeling.

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PostSubject: Re: Any brothers in harm's way? (Sandy hurricane)   Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:42 pm

Looks bad from the national news. Flooding, millions without power for an indeterminate period. (Been there done that!)...

Stay safe brothers.

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PostSubject: Re: Any brothers in harm's way? (Sandy hurricane)   Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:08 pm

UberHuberMan wrote:
Surprised none of the LA boys have chimed in yet.

Well my thoughts are that while a CAT 1 isn't as bad as it could be it is still no fun if you are in it.

Louisiana had the "advantage" of Katrina, Rita, Gustav and Ike trimming the trees. So the Cat 1 Isaac did not cause that much damage from trees falling on houses.

Add to that increased building code scrutiny and wind resistant shingles and a population more willing to evacuate and you come out in the best shape you could considering it is a hurricane. Flooding was another matter in some areas.

But some parts of the Northeast haven't had mother natures tree trimming service. The sustained winds and flooding can cause a lot of damage. And with the number of people to restore power to...Being without electricity sucks when it's real hot or real cold.....

Praying for safety for everyone and a speedy recovery from the storm.


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PostSubject: Re: Any brothers in harm's way? (Sandy hurricane)   Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:39 pm

Well it looks like the worst part of the storm is over (as far as the storm goes). Unfortunetly it looks like it lived up to the hype and really tore things up. My prayers are with everyone over in that part of the world who suffered any storm damage.
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PostSubject: Re: Any brothers in harm's way? (Sandy hurricane)   Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:51 pm

my brother lives in the Harrisburg area, they didn't get much there, said they got snow to the west of him. My thoughts and prayers to you guys in harms way.
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PostSubject: Re: Any brothers in harm's way? (Sandy hurricane)   Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:57 am

Everyone make it through alright?

They were predicting that the storm would roll right over Philly, and I guess it did, but it was nearly as strong when it got here as they were concerned about. Seems south eastern Jersey got the wost of it. Looks like half of Atlantic City and just about all of Long Beach Island is underwater and quite a bit of the state is without power.

There was a lot of flooding from the smaller rivers and larger creeks in the area but nothing really got anywhere near the house. Just made life a bit miserable for a few days. I don't think we even lost power. Lost a few smaller branches and a bunch of leaves, but no trees came down this time. All in all, we made it through unscathed. SEPTA took a bit of beating and my 27 min train ride took me nearly an hour this morning.
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PostSubject: Re: Any brothers in harm's way? (Sandy hurricane)   Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:55 pm

Slide wrote:
UberHuberMan wrote:
Surprised none of the LA boys have chimed in yet.

Well my thoughts are that while a CAT 1 isn't as bad as it could be it is still no fun if you are in it.

I dunno, standing outside during Andrew just as the eye was passing over was pretty thrilling. Laughing

In all seriousness though, my last post was just me voicing some thoughts and in no way did I mean to say that this storm isn't a big deal. This storm is a huge deal for an area of the country that is unused to seeing them and the amount of damage and inconvenience is unparalleled along the coast of the NE. I hope everyone who has been negatively affected by the storm (unfortunately that means millions) recover quickly and see their lives returned to normal asap.

Dave! I'm very glad to hear that the storm didn't hurt you guys too badly in Philly. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Any brothers in harm's way? (Sandy hurricane)   Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:42 am

Some friends in NYC and related have all checked in saying it was "intense". Here in my area of greater Boston there where a lot of trees blown over. Good old trees as well. Thankfully we never lost our utilities. Though a neighbor did because of a tree falling. A tree in the backyard of the house, the basement apartment of which I live in, was blown over. Thankfully falling across the fence and the neighbors backyard and doing little damage. Some heavy rain followed the storm proper and there has been some local flash flooding. Otherwise, and especially in comparison to those so badly hit elsewhere, we came through just fine.

Thinking of those who may not have.
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PostSubject: Re: Any brothers in harm's way? (Sandy hurricane)   Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:13 pm

Starting to get word from my family up in New York/ North Jersey. Aunt and Cousins in Monmouth County NJ without power until 11/8 at the earliest. My folks fared pretty well, so did the mother in law - no power for a day and a half but all is fine now.

My wife's grandfather lost his entire roof and most of his second floor when the winds came through. He's alright, thankfully. The old guy's a trooper. He's 83 years old and is living happily in a house with no power, no water and NO ROOF! I guess that generation is just cut from different stock.

My uncle on Long Beach in Long Island wasn't so luck. His house was right on the bay and is pretty much gone. The dock is actually gone - out to sea probably. The house was knocked off the foundation and has about three feet of water in what's still standing. Unfortunately his FEMA flood policy only goes up to $250k so he's going to take a big hit on this one.

Again, at least nobody was hurt, just a bunch of property and possessions that can (eventually) be replaced.
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PostSubject: Re: Any brothers in harm's way? (Sandy hurricane)   Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:20 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Any brothers in harm's way? (Sandy hurricane)   Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:55 pm

At a press conference this morning on Staten Island, a host of local officials, including Senators Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand, gathered to highlight the needs of the hard-hit borough in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy. And, although many pols spoke, no one was more impassioned than Borough President James Molinaro, who called the Red Cross an “absolute disgrace” and even urged the public to cease giving them contributions.

“Because the devastation in Staten Island, the lack of a response,” Mr. Molinaro said to explain his comment to NBC after the press conference. “You know, I went to a shelter Monday night after the storm. People were coming in with no socks, with no shoes. They were in desperate need. Their housing was destroyed. They were crying. Where was the Red Cross? Isn’t that their function? They collect millions of dollars. Whenever there’s a drive in Staten Island, we give openly and honestly. Where are they? Where are they? I was at the South Shore yesterday, people were buried in their homes. There the dogs are trying to find bodies. The people there, the neighbors who had no electricity, were making soup. Making soup. It’s very emotional because the lack of a response. The lack of a response. They’re supposed to be here….They should be on the front lines fighting, and helping the people.”

http://politicker.com/2012/11/staten-island-borough-president-dont-give-money-to-the-red-cross/

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PostSubject: Re: Any brothers in harm's way? (Sandy hurricane)   Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:08 pm

RE: red cross

I had very mixed results from the Red Cross after Katrina. In the first two weeks, not a lot of help from anyone, inc. the Red Cross, but over the next two months they were a real boon to those of us trying to get things back into something we could pretend was order.
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