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Ocelot55

Ocelot55

Location : Columbus, OH
Registration date : 2012-03-28

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PostSubject: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 10:25 pm

I didn't quite get this done in time for 2012, so this is my first completed pipe of the year!

Let me just say that cavaliers are not easy. This was my first one so there is a lot I would do differently next time.

Please let me know what you think.

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1-13 Cavalier 102_0528

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Age : 57
Location : Benton, Louisiana
Registration date : 2011-11-23

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 11:07 pm

I really like the finish on that one.

It looks like it would be a challenging pipe to make!
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MisterE

Location : Mexico City
Registration date : 2009-08-24

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 11:17 pm

Hey, that's pretty cool! Seems like the trick would be getting the bowl to fit symmetrically and smoothly on the shank. Bravo!

Even with the tin of Xmas Cheer it took me a sec to see how mini that pipe is. It's a Wee-valier!! cheers

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Ocelot55

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Location : Columbus, OH
Registration date : 2012-03-28

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 11:22 pm

Thanks guys. It is indeed very small. That is another reason I had so much trouble shaping it. The bowl is probably the equivalent of a Dunhill group 2. Wonderful wide open draw and a hand-cut ebonite mouthpiece.
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MisterE

Location : Mexico City
Registration date : 2009-08-24

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 11:33 pm

Out of curiosity, did you drill the draught hole from the shank or down through the bowl? It looks like goes straight down. It could be my crappy monitor though.

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Ocelot55

Ocelot55

Location : Columbus, OH
Registration date : 2012-03-28

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 12:06 am

Well the draft hole runs straight through the "tube" portion of the pipe. The part of the draft hole that connects the bowl to the tube is actually drilled at an angle instead of straight down.
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Kyle Weiss

Kyle Weiss

Location : Reno, NV
Registration date : 2011-09-18

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 4:42 am

"Cavalier" pipes usually make me urp a little in my mouth, not sure why. They just look funky. This one is the first one I nodded and smiled toward, I think it was executed brilliantly!

Questions from the ignorant sect: what's the idea behind these, anyway? Does the drilling go two ways, one to the bowl and one straight down to the bottom "plug?" Is it a moisture/cleaning chamber? What's the smoke like in one?

Cool
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Dutch

Dutch

Age : 54
Location : On the road.......
Registration date : 2010-11-06

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 4:57 am

Excellent effort Ocelot! Looks like a fine flake pipe, and a nice addition to your collection! cheers cheers cheers
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Ocelot55

Ocelot55

Location : Columbus, OH
Registration date : 2012-03-28

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 9:36 am

As I understand it, the cavalier design is just another type of system pipe. Here is a link to the pipedia explanation of the shape:

http://pipedia.org/wiki/Cavalier
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dshpipes

dshpipes

Age : 36
Location : Durham, NC
Registration date : 2011-03-06

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 11:17 am

This is a good looking cavalier, Jessie. Good work man! I'd be honored to receive it myself. Smile
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Briar Spirit

Briar Spirit

Age : 51
Location : England UK
Registration date : 2012-08-30

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 12:56 pm

That is stunning, even though I am not a fan of bent pipes any longer I have to say that would definitely catch my eye in a shop, fantastic work, bravo. cheers
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somedumbjerk

somedumbjerk

Age : 34
Location : Palo Alto, CA USA
Registration date : 2012-08-26

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 1:12 pm

i have to start mine soon. i planned on making a small one as well, do you suggest going a little bigger? looks great, BTW! i'm nervous about this shape. it'll be a good challenge though.
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Ocelot55

Ocelot55

Location : Columbus, OH
Registration date : 2012-03-28

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 1:37 pm

somedumbjerk wrote:
i have to start mine soon. i planned on making a small one as well, do you suggest going a little bigger? looks great, BTW! i'm nervous about this shape. it'll be a good challenge though.

As a general rule, bigger is easier. Most of my pipes are smaller (group 2-4). Part of the reason is that I prefer smaller pipes. The other is that I can't afford large briar blocks!

In some ways the engineering on a cavalier is easier than a traditional bent pipe, but it is more difficult to shape.

I'm looking forward to seeing your cavalier, SDJ.
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Kyle Weiss

Kyle Weiss

Location : Reno, NV
Registration date : 2011-09-18

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 2:36 pm

The Pipedia description isn't really good at first-hand usage, though...concept is one thing, but I don't think I've talked to anyone at length about how they perform. Anyone an old salt in these? Laughing

Meanwhile, I noticed the Pipedia picture of the "plug" at the bottom is reversed from your design, Ocelot... wherein the picture they post is more of a "cap" yours is more of a "cork" (one inside, one outside). If theoretically, they work as intended (as I assume they do), I almost like your design better.

Are there two schools of thought on the inside/outside capping at the bottom?

Cool
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Greyson

Greyson

Age : 39
Location : England
Registration date : 2012-08-03

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 4:45 pm

Looks like that took a lot of work and craftsmanship Ocelot, very well done, its turned out great brother!
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Ocelot55

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Location : Columbus, OH
Registration date : 2012-03-28

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 5:06 pm

Kyle Weiss wrote:
The Pipedia description isn't really good at first-hand usage, though...concept is one thing, but I don't think I've talked to anyone at length about how they perform. Anyone an old salt in these? Laughing

Meanwhile, I noticed the Pipedia picture of the "plug" at the bottom is reversed from your design, Ocelot... wherein the picture they post is more of a "cap" yours is more of a "cork" (one inside, one outside). If theoretically, they work as intended (as I assume they do), I almost like your design better.

Are there two schools of thought on the inside/outside capping at the bottom?

Cool

All very good points and observations, Kyle. If the plug is truly supposed to be a spit well I can see how the cap as shown in pipedia would be better.

I am curious about how it smokes myself. Maybe I'll make another one for me. Hopefully the owner of this one will let me know how it treats him/her.
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Growley

Growley

Age : 44
Location : Fairhope, Al
Registration date : 2012-04-10

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 7:40 pm

Great pipe Jesse! You did a wonderful job on it. You should be proud.
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taharris

taharris

Age : 51
Location : Central Ohio
Registration date : 2011-11-10

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 8:02 pm

Nicely done!

Mine is about half done and of a very similar design.

I hope mine turns out as well.

Todd
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RDPipes

RDPipes

Age : 66
Location : East Texas
Registration date : 2011-12-15

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyTue Jan 08, 2013 9:56 am

Ocelot, I really love Cavaliers and have about 15 in my collection and yours came out very well I think with nice tiger grain and form.
Wish I had what it takes to make a pipe but, for now I'm happy with just being able to repair and restore my own.
Looks like your on your way to being a fine piper carver sir.
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Ocelot55

Ocelot55

Location : Columbus, OH
Registration date : 2012-03-28

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyTue Jan 08, 2013 2:09 pm

Thanks guys. I think I'm finally getting the hang of things. My biggest obstacle to overcome in pipe making has been myself. I'm just now beginning to understand what it truly takes to create a good looking, good smoking pipe. I have a long way to go still!
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RDPipes

RDPipes

Age : 66
Location : East Texas
Registration date : 2011-12-15

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyTue Jan 08, 2013 2:28 pm

Kyle Weiss wrote:
The Pipedia description isn't really good at first-hand usage, though...concept is one thing, but I don't think I've talked to anyone at length about how they perform. Anyone an old salt in these? Laughing

Meanwhile, I noticed the Pipedia picture of the "plug" at the bottom is reversed from your design, Ocelot... wherein the picture they post is more of a "cap" yours is more of a "cork" (one inside, one outside). If theoretically, they work as intended (as I assume they do), I almost like your design better.

Are there two schools of thought on the inside/outside capping at the bottom?

Cool

Kyle, As stated before I have a few of these in my collection and they came different ways. Some plugs as Ocelot's is and some screw in, some metal and some bone, Lucite or similar materials. I think it's just a matter of how the manufacturer wanted to make it.


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the rev

the rev

Age : 53
Location : Oak View CA
Registration date : 2012-10-08

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyTue Jan 08, 2013 2:35 pm

Ocelot55 wrote:
Thanks guys. I think I'm finally getting the hang of things. My biggest obstacle to overcome in pipe making has been myself. I'm just now beginning to understand what it truly takes to create a good looking, good smoking pipe. I have a long way to go still!

Well I still feel pretty lost, but feel honored to be part of your class, and though I might not be the valedictorian I will be the class clown so help me Smile

Great pipe Jesse

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Kyle Weiss

Kyle Weiss

Location : Reno, NV
Registration date : 2011-09-18

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyTue Jan 08, 2013 3:52 pm

"Back of the Class Pipes" -- by the Rev. Laughing cheers

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Ocelot55

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Location : Columbus, OH
Registration date : 2012-03-28

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyTue Jan 08, 2013 4:51 pm

Cartaphilus wrote:
Kyle Weiss wrote:
The Pipedia description isn't really good at first-hand usage, though...concept is one thing, but I don't think I've talked to anyone at length about how they perform. Anyone an old salt in these? Laughing

Meanwhile, I noticed the Pipedia picture of the "plug" at the bottom is reversed from your design, Ocelot... wherein the picture they post is more of a "cap" yours is more of a "cork" (one inside, one outside). If theoretically, they work as intended (as I assume they do), I almost like your design better.

Are there two schools of thought on the inside/outside capping at the bottom?

Cool

Kyle, As stated before I have a few of these in my collection and they came different ways. Some plugs as Ocelot's is and some screw in, some metal and some bone, Lucite or similar materials. I think it's just a matter of how the manufacturer wanted to make it.

I've always liked cavaliers but have never found one in my price range that I liked. Can we see some pics of your cavs, Cartaphilus?
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RDPipes

RDPipes

Age : 66
Location : East Texas
Registration date : 2011-12-15

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PostSubject: Re: 1-13 Cavalier   1-13 Cavalier EmptyTue Jan 08, 2013 6:10 pm

Ocelot, I'd be happy to, always glad to show off my pipes LOL! Let me get them together cause I keep them in a rack out of direct sunlight and there is no good lighting in that room so I'll post them as soon as I get them set them up in my homemade photo tent in the other room.
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