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PostSubject: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:17 pm

recentley i have been cleaning some pipe stems on some of my older pipes. some of the stems have a greenish hue to them which causes me to believe that this is mainley an oxidation. have some of you BROTHERS in your experiences used a buffing wheel to gain that shinney look to an older pipe. if so, do i need a certain buffing speed as to not "burn" the stem , and what grade of rue should i use. as ALWAYS, thank you for your time and considersation on this matter.
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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:29 pm

You might get more responses by changing your title to "questions about stem polishing"
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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:15 pm

Then you'd have to banish it to the Rubber Room. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:38 pm

Note to self: Avoid stem polishing thread in the Rubber Room.

I can't be much help but do not use a grinder with a polishing wheel. The speed is way to fast for most do it yourselfers.
Just something I read some where. Laughing

I am sure someone who know way more than I do will be here shortly.

Which is most anyone but me. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:46 pm

Your best bet is to start with probably 600-grit wet/dry emory paper used gently (and wet). When it's black again, 1,200 grit (wet) and, if you want, micromesh from there.

http://www.sculpt.com/catalog_98/abrasives/micromesh.htm

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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:18 pm

Well, you can use a buffer. Or --

Use some fine sand paper (wet or dry) to take off visible surface oxidation. This will give you a dull, scratched (but not so oxidized) finish. Then you can apply Brebbia or Dunhill stam polish. (In fact, if the oxidation is light, just start with the stem polish.

Then take a slight dab of good ol' mineral oil (an anti-oxidant) and apply it evenly to the stem. Let it sit for an hour or so. Wipe off any residue.

Then take a tube of lip balm with sun shield, put some on your finger- and thumb-tip and apply to the bit section of the stem. Just let it sit.

A shortcut is to just apply the mineral oil, and just a dab will do ya.

Experiment a bit. You can't irrevocably screw it up.
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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:14 pm

I use a motor with an RPM of 1725 with a six inch wheel mounted on it, I start off with 'white diamond' polishing compound then a coat of carnauba wax applied with a different wheel and then finally buffed with a 'loose flannel' buffing wheel.
Alternatively, a soak in oxi-clean followed by a sanding with wet or dry sandpaper (1500 grit). This will get it pretty close. If you want it shinier then finish with cheap toothpaste. Or you can skip the oxi-clean and start with the sandpaper..just takes a little more elbow grease!
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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:29 pm

i.keenum wrote:
Then you'd have to banish it to the Rubber Room. Razz

You laugh, but a few years back stem polishing led to one of the worst blowups ever on the board. Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:31 pm

First of all, Thank You for your service, Brother!

Ironically, a 'Mr. Clean Magic Eraser' works well. It takes off much of the Oxidation without a lot of effort.

Afterwords, rub a bit of Extra Virgin Olive Oil all over the stem and let it sit for an hour or two. Wipe the EVOO off and your good to go for a while. As a bonus, the stem tastes good too. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:33 pm

MisterE wrote:
i.keenum wrote:
Then you'd have to banish it to the Rubber Room. Razz

You laugh, but a few years back stem polishing led to one of the worst blowups ever on the board. Rolling Eyes

Yeah, and the big 'Olive Oil' controversy a year or two back was quite a mess too.
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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:36 pm

Rob_In_MO wrote:
MisterE wrote:
i.keenum wrote:
Then you'd have to banish it to the Rubber Room. Razz

You laugh, but a few years back stem polishing led to one of the worst blowups ever on the board. Rolling Eyes

Yeah, and the big 'Olive Oil' controversy a year or two back was quite a mess too.

And I'm sure the ONLY Olive Oil to use would be cold pressed Italian Extra Virgin? Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:45 pm

monbla256 wrote:
Rob_In_MO wrote:
MisterE wrote:
i.keenum wrote:
Then you'd have to banish it to the Rubber Room. Razz

You laugh, but a few years back stem polishing led to one of the worst blowups ever on the board. Rolling Eyes

Yeah, and the big 'Olive Oil' controversy a year or two back was quite a mess too.

And I'm sure the ONLY Olive Oil to use would be cold pressed Italian Extra Virgin? Twisted Evil

The olive oil thread was the one I was thinking of...

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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:55 pm

I have also used toothpaste to clean an oxidized vulcanite stem. I've wiped it down with the toothpaste, let set for a little while. Wipe off and then buff out using the white ruge (could be spelling it wrong). Your mileage may vary.
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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:21 pm

I use a little ChapStick on my finger, rub it over the stem and then wipe the excess off with a cloth. This works well for shining up a smooth briar bowl as well. It may not be any better than mineral oil but it likely would not evaporate as quickly. Also, ChapStick contains carnauba wax, the same material that is used to shine new pipe bowls.
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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:32 pm

Cut this short now.

You can either try to disguise deteriorated vulcanite, or remove it. Removing it is far better. That means abrasives.

Patent pipe polishes depend mostly on skin oil/grease to blacken lighter colored (somewhat deteriorated) stems/mouthpieces. Properly used (as home remedies) they are the final stage in the abrasive removal sequence -- not a substitute for it. You can do about the same thing with nose oil.

Rolling Eyes

Olive oil never dries completely. It, like any oil, darkens the surface under it. And it may, or may not, offer some kind of protection.

One thing it does do though is go rancid.

There are stem oils made ("Obsidian" is one that comes to mind) that do protect stems against oxygen & moisture (the culprits involved).

FWIW

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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:51 pm

Obsidian Oil also has a UV blocker in it, I reckon.

Chapstick works: UV protection. Enough waxes/oils to give a shine. Good for your lips. It won't solve a deteriorated stem, but will definitely slow the process down by a lot.

The manager of Tinder Box recently gave me a generous portion of their "pipe rouge" buffing compound that they use to bring customer pipes back to their glory...it's for the stems. I haven't used it yet, but I'm hoping it'll be a fast solution to the time-consuming sanding/polishing process I go through by hand right now. I green up a stem at the button where I clench in a matter of a week these days, and it looks terrible. I think that's why I take my cobs out so often, the stems may be a little bitten, but they ain't green. Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:07 pm

Is it possible that only a Marine could have answered this question? Cool
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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:09 pm

We have a few here...Marines seem to have a language all their own. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:49 pm

Lucite. Cool

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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:56 pm

At this point, yeah. I like vulcanite okay, but this recent presto-smoke-o-change-o in color at the bit, if it keeps up, is going to narrow down my pipe stem choices in the future. Neutral Fortunately it's just a gross look, and I usually smoke alone. Meh.

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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:56 pm

http://www.brothersofbriar.com/t12112-olive-oil-to-clean-a-pipe

IMHO, and in many others who have been around the block a few times, LL's take is the last word on this.

FWIW

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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:43 pm

For some reason I'm not special enough to read your link. Sad Maybe it's my paltry number of posts.
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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:08 pm

scratch

George Dibos wrote:
Rancid edible oils eventually bloom with a disgusting mustiness that is all-but-impossible to remove.

George is, for those who don't know him,

www.precisionpiperepair.com/

and among the best in the business.

(Disclosure : Not only do I have no financial or familial relationship with him, he thinks I'm nuts. But fair is fair : when you're good, you're good. And he's famously good at what he does. Which is restore pipes).

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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:38 pm

I can't imagine why the link doesn't work for you. But if you want the whole nine yards of it, it's currently on page 21 in The Pipe Rack.

Last post date = Mar. 20, 2011

Thread Title = "Olive Oil."

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PostSubject: Re: QUESTION FROM A MARINE   Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:18 am

serif365 wrote:
For some reason I'm not special enough to read your link. Sad Maybe it's my paltry number of posts.

You'll have to register for the Asylum in order to read the thread. It's easy and anyone is welcome. It's just a restricted area for members so the itinerant web surfer won't be offended by our chicanery. Razz

http://www.brothersofbriar.com/t3752-joining-the-asylum

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