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Fatman

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PostSubject: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptyTue Feb 19, 2013 8:00 pm

A good friend recently returned from the Lone Star State and brought me a bottle of "1835 Texas Bourbon" bottled in Lewisville Texas.
Thinking I will crack it open tonight, and enjoy it with a nice Partagas maduro cigar Smile

/happydance!
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptyTue Feb 19, 2013 8:32 pm

That is a good friend!
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptyTue Feb 19, 2013 10:26 pm

Just tried it while doing some grilling on the deck. Winter time grilling is another topic all together Smile Very smooth for a 90 proof, nice sweet finish, almost honey like.
Just added an ice cube to see how it opens up. Sort of spicy on the front end with the sweet honey notes on the finish. A very nice whiskey!
I will ration it out, seeing as it is not available up here. The Partagas 1845 maduro along with it is nice as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptyFri Feb 22, 2013 6:58 pm

The local big liquor store was reccomending this bourbon for bourbon drinkers recently, not just here in College Station but in Beaumont 180 miles away. I don't think it was just pushing a new product either, actually got into a discussion with the employee on Texas bourbons and experiences on let downs among them that we've had and I was sold on 1835 and picked up a bottle.

Over the winter break back home I made a batch of eggnog with it and rum, friends and family really enjoyed it. My non-drinking mother was drinking some for breakfast when everyone woke up. I can't say I've really sat down to appreciate it, but trying it here and there it's been really good. Going to have to change that so it looks like I'll be taking (at least mentally) notes when I pour the next glass so that I can form a more solid opinion.

Glad to see a happy review on a local product coming from out of state. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 12:38 am

Texas Bourbon? No such thing. That's like claiming an Australian Scotch or a Russian Champagne.
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 12:58 am

And before we even start.... Yes I know the federal government claims it only has to be US produced meeting several requirements to be labeled Bourbon .. this is the same federal government that labels a Ruger 10/22 an assault weapon and a Ford Focus ST a performance vehicle.... Kentucky doesn't try to claim cowboys, gumbo, cannoli, or deep sea fishing.. I don't know why everyone thinks it's okay to claim our Bourbon.
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 2:02 am

puros_bran wrote:
Texas Bourbon? No such thing. That's like claiming an Australian Scotch or a Russian Champagne.

I have a bottle that based on label and area of production begs to differ. Razz

I feel like unless locality labels have something to do with the actual locality (such as wines made from grapes grown in specific regions or cigars made from Cuban tobacco) then the name merely denotes a style or process. Adding "Texas" or whatever state before it only describes locality. Unless something is drastically different about Kentucky bourbon that can only be reproduced within the borders of Kentucky, I'd change my mind. Is your corn sweeter or barley grow taller?

You can have your Kentucky gumbo too, might be a little harder getting fresh gulf shrimp than those of use closer to the water.
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 2:18 am

Well, I understand the moniker due to location, sort of like "California" champagne. Can be made by the methode champenoise, but to be truly labeled as Champagne must be from that region in France. Regardless, still a nice sippin whiskey Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 2:39 am

to my understanding the only difference between whiskey and bourbon is where it is made, so in that theory then it would be the geographic location which makes it bourbon and others whiskey even if the process and ingredients are the same, but of course that is only if the above statement is true, I have never really looked into it much
would this be the same for what makes scotch , "Scotch"?
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 2:40 am

You can beg to differ all you'd like Mr Melon.. You would still be wrong , Bourbon is and always has been a Ky product.. even the knuckleheads down in Tn have enough sense to recognize this.
We won't steal your giant belt buckles, and y'all leave our name off of whatever you want to call your whisky.
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 2:44 am

Belt buckle? I thought those were spare hubcaps
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 2:47 am

Casino up until lately the product 'Bourbon' has been recognized as a uniquely Kentucky product.. not just Ky but specifically central ky with a large portion of it actually made in Old Bourbon County in Bardstown.

but the 'bourbon boon' hit and every tom dick and harry wants to cash in on it.. the federal government could easily correct the situation but choose to allow our heritage to be stolen.


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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 2:59 am

are you sampling some now? I am agreeing with you, Bourbon is as bourbon does
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 3:00 am

Oh to answer the question about the uniqueness..... It's in the water.
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 3:02 am

No. I hate the stuff . Lol
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 3:04 am

I much prefer a good gin but will settle for a bottle of Tito's vodka, ironically to this conversation made in Texas
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joemelon

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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 3:18 am

BigCasino wrote:
to my understanding the only difference between whiskey and bourbon is where it is made, so in that theory then it would be the geographic location which makes it bourbon and others whiskey even if the process and ingredients are the same, but of course that is only if the above statement is true, I have never really looked into it much
would this be the same for what makes scotch , "Scotch"?

Bourbon is made with majority corn instead of barley, wheat or rye. Funniest bit, corn whiskey actually as far as records go, was first distilled in Virginia before that part became Kentucky. I'm all for being proud of local products and what not, that's cool. Appreciating the history of things is great and lends a lot as to the knowledge of why the product came about among other things.

It just seems extraordinarily PC to say "bourbon only comes from X," unless you want to go by the strictest interpretation of the name as in Bourbon that only comes from Bourbon County, Kentucky (which could as easily been Bourbon County, Virginia but for the same federal government that labels a Ruger 10/22 an assault weapon and a Ford Focus ST a performance vehicle" Laughing ).

And I'm just stating this because of the way the term bourbon is used in the real world, it's commonly used to describe a style. I can beg to differ all I want, and if we're talking about actual Bourbon whiskey, from the Bourbon area, I'd definitely be wrong. 50 years ago isn't all too recently that Bourbon was declared a product of the US, too. I do understand the want to protect locally made products (and it's not like there's never going to be someone who doesn't shout "but bourbon is only made in Kentucky!"), but the world of whiskey is already confusing enough for most people with all the names, does it really need to be made more confusing with Bourbon, Tennessee Whiskey, Texas Whiskey and Corn Whiskey (California Whiskey, Washington Whiskey, Oregon Whiskey ad nauseum)?

I guess what this screed is getting at is I'm not disagreeing that Bourbon is made in Kentucky, just that as far as general use of the term goes it's used in reference to a style commonly and currently. Languages evolve, ask any linguist.

As far as big belt buckles go, too flashy and uncomfortable for my tastes, you couldn't take enough of them out of Texas to make me feel comfortable. Gin would help, though, seeing as that's my preference for spirits. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 3:24 am

From where I sit you are 100% correct. Let's not confuse the liquor world by calling non bourbon bourbon.
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 3:31 am

puros_bran wrote:
From where I sit you are 100% correct. Let's not confuse the liquor world by calling non bourbon bourbon.

Sounds like a plan. Maybe it can be put into action over a couple of glasses of my favorite bourbon, Jack Daniels.
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 3:37 am

You do realize those Tn methheads will hunt you down and kill you and your family out to seventh cousins for saying that?


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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 3:45 am

I...

I...didn't consider that. I was hoping the comment to be more of an affront to bourbon preservationists. The mistake was mine own and I fear that it may prove to be a grave one.

Should I go missing, it shouldn't be too hard to figure it out.
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 4:25 am

You think the Bourbon boys are bad...

You really wanna piss them off remind them that a Louisville Ky business OWNS them. Hehe. Tn whisky my arse.. hehe
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PostSubject: Re: Texas Bourbon   Texas Bourbon EmptySat Feb 23, 2013 11:54 am

Reminds me of a great 60 Minutes piece about McDonalds trying to control the use of that name in the UK. Seems they were upset about a woman whose last name was McDonald calling her small sandwich shop...McDonalds!
So they went up to Scotland to interview THE MacDonald, and as the official head of the clan, he stated that only he had the authority to grant permission to use the name!
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