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puros_bran
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PostSubject: Thank me later...   Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:34 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Thank me later...   Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:56 pm

I wonder how long it'll take before they start taxing leaves like all other tobacco products?


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PostSubject: Re: Thank me later...   Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:59 pm

3...2..1.

As soon as Philip Morris and RJ Reynolds tells them it's okay to.
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PostSubject: Re: Thank me later...   Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:09 pm

It's too bad. Any industry response to draconian taxation is quickly found out and stomped. It'll probably go the way of RYO before long.

I noticed they also sell cigarette tubes, grinders, and other accessories. Tsk-tsk. Without those things they might just stay off the radar. For a litte while, anyway.


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PostSubject: Re: Thank me later...   Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:20 pm

They also sell cigar rolling equipment...



The amount of various tobacco almost makes me want to smoke.
Good thing I got some FVF extract juice today. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Thank me later...   Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:21 pm

They sell VIRGINS ? I did'nt see them listed ! Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Thank me later...   Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:54 pm



Seriously though, this looks interesting. Particularly for those who want to delve into the production aspects. Which doesn't include me at present!

I wish them well, but fear it's only going to be a matter of time before they're running afoul of some now or future regs.

Viva la Revelucion!


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PostSubject: Re: Thank me later...   Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:15 pm

$29.99 for 1lb tobacco leaf?


check out these guys I am a member of their forum where they all grow their own tobacco too and are willing to help out any one growing and processing their own leaf, like here there is a good bunch of fellows there




http://www.wholeleaftobacco.com/main.sc

less than $20 a lb there usually too
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PostSubject: Re: Thank me later...   Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:34 pm

A lot of the tobacco at leaf only goes for around $16.
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PostSubject: Re: Thank me later...   Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:49 pm

Similar pricing on similar leaf. Virginia was about the same.. I didn't investigate any deeper..

Had you shared that link before?
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PostSubject: Re: Thank me later...   Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:29 pm

Interesting. I wonder how it tastes. Given the curing, steaming, pressing, casing, topping, blending and aging processes used in making pipe tobacco, I'd be concerned that trying to smoke this stuff just shredding and stuffing would be a horrible experience. Smoking some hand rolled cheroots might be interesting though.

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PostSubject: Re: Thank me later...   Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:32 pm

Ask Mark. I think he uses these guys...........
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PostSubject: Re: Thank me later...   Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:09 am

About a year ago a guy asked me to evaluate blends he had made from unprocessed tobacco. It was cured only. It was awful. The steps PD mentioned above had yet to occur. They don't say this on the site. They represent themselves as providers of tobacco which when blended will produce a smoking experience similar to the tobacco available from C&D, etc. I think they are less than truthful.

Perhaps these steps can be done by the smoker. But at $29.00/lb one is not far from GH lbs that sell for $50. But I suppose if taxes go through the roof and it is possible to replicate these steps, $29/lb might be desirable.

One wonders how long they will be able to sell their product if the taxes do come? This is tobacco and the purpose of tobacco is smoking. I don't think they will be able to continue in this niche. But if government taxes cured-only whole leaf, Big Tobacco would perhaps have to pay the taxes? Can you imagine the price of cigarettes, etc., if they had to pay 3-5 Xs what they currently pay for whole leaf? They of course would pass this on to the consumer, in which case the consumer would pay a double tax load. $20 for a pack?
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