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PostSubject: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:09 am

Want to talk about impulsive decisions! Check this out and tell me what you would do, if your daughter or grandaughter came home looking like this.

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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:21 am

Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Stupidity beyond dumb!ShockedShocked  Shocked affraid affraid What a Face What a Face Embarassed Embarassed 5) 5)  I just can't begin to imagine the horror I'd feel. I don't know what I would do. Pretty sure I'd not recover from the shock. Just shoot me and put me out of my exceptional misery. 

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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:42 am

Really sad, hopefully an internet prank.. (but doesn't look like a prank).
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:51 am

Personally, I'm with Cenk. I've got no use for tattoos personally, though I can respect people who have them, more so if they are well done and appropriately placed, by which I mean you can hide them with normal clothing when necessary (turtleneck sweaters and burkas don't count for my purposes).

I'll tell you one thing, though: if a tattoo artist did that to my daughter, he'd better try and get into the Witness Protection Program.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:53 pm

Sad thing is that these people are about the same age as I am. Such a bad generation to be grouped with. You'd never get a respectable job with something like that all over your face.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:58 pm

Aside from the sheer stupidity of it (IMHO), the captions at the bottom are hilarious.

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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:09 pm

Awful. If I had a daughter and she came around like that, I'm not sure there's much I could do. The tattoo is already there. Removal of a tattoo that size would leave a lot of scarring. I think I'd have to live with it and just be severely disappointed and sad that my daughter had ruined her face.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:22 pm

There is also the possibility that the relationship may not last. They have only known each other a day. This might limit interest from future boyfriends UNLESS they shared the name - in that case it might be a plus. It really is hard to know just what to do with this.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:49 pm

I used to frequently see a guy at work (in a prison) who had the international bio-hazard emblem tattooed on his forehead.

Tats in there don't seem cool enough any more if they aren't running up your neck.

Whatever.

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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:49 pm

I'm thinking this has to be a sick, very unfunny joke with a nonpermanent stain.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:13 pm

I've been happily married for 4 years and I wouldn't get my wifes name in a hidden spot. Personally I think it might be a good fake. Ya I would lose my ever loving shit if it was my kid. They would be moving out.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:47 pm

I've been seeing more and more kids accessorizing themselves with tattoos, piercings, and ear lobe stretching, and it's sad that they feel the need to mutilate themselves. But, if my kid came home looking like that, I think I would very disappointed in myself as a parent, because I obviously didn't do a very good job.
I actually had a nightmare about my girlfriend tattooing her face pink not too long ago.
That was a relief to wake up from!
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:39 pm

Fr_Tom wrote:
There is also the possibility that the relationship may not last. They have only known each other a day. This might limit interest from future boyfriends UNLESS they shared the name - in that case it might be a plus. It really is hard to know just what to do with this.

Tom, are you being facetious? Laughing 
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:16 pm

Have to agree, the size and placement is so far over the top (even leaving aside getting it done after one day!!!) that I hope for the girl's sake this is a fake! Yet I wouldn't be surprised if it were all too real
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:26 pm

DrT999 wrote:
Have to agree, the size and placement is so far over the top (even leaving aside getting it done after one day!!!) that I hope for the girl's sake this is a fake!  Yet I wouldn't be surprised if it were all too real

When notoriety, of any type, is the most highly coveted commodity in society, anything seems possible, no matter how absurd.
The fact that most of us are resigned to the fact that this behavior may be authentic, and not a hoax, speaks volumes about our times.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:46 pm

ok I don't really want to chime in on this, but i have to

Not everyone in every culture feels the way about tattooing the face as most here probably do, just because we don't understand something and cannot grasp why anyone else would do such a thing doesn't make it crazy, really what makes this crazy is the "hear say" notion that 1. it is her boyfriends name, i mean it is in Russian and they dont give a good look at it and 2. they just met the same day

In New Zealand they used to Tattoo the face they called it maori or moko, the more intricate the design the higher status in the community here is a link if anyone is interested moko/Maori

now none of this is to say I agree with this type of tattooing, but i hardly have an argument against it if there person wants the tattoo for heritage reason, or even for nostalgic reason, does it freak me out or disgust me when I see people with facial tattoos? of course not i understand that tattoos are only skin deep, and there is always more to the person under that stained skin.
yes I am a tattoo artist and have a biased opinion towards tattoos
But i also believe that as tattoo artists we have a duty to protect our industry, and to do this we need to police ourselves and not tattoo peoples faces for the idea of shock and awe, why would we want to reflect a negative outlook on our profession?

some of you might be really surprised to find out that a lot of those women with that sexy beauty mark by her mouth wasn't given to her by god, it was given to her by someone like me, also eybrows, eyeliner, lip liner and so on, sure you can make a case of what is "acceptable" and what it isn't but arent you just grabbing at straws then?
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:35 am

The most alarming thing is not the fact that it's a facial tattoo. It's the age of the people involved, and the motives that are most disturbing to me. Despite what they think, or in many cases "feel", teens and young adults don't always know what's best for them. If a 30 or 40 year old adult were to do the same, no problem. They should know what they're doing by that time. In fact, I think Mike Tyson's face tattoo looks good on him. But that 19 year old with mutilated ear lobes, or 18 year old with a huge skull tattooed on her chest? Maybe the future seems so uncertain to them that they aren't at all concerned with it, but if they live to be 60 or 70, that's a long time to have lived with the images they chose for themselves as a teen.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:04 am

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ok I don't really want to chime in on this, but i have to

Not everyone in every culture feels the way about tattooing the face as most here probably do, just because we don't understand something and cannot grasp why anyone else would do such a thing doesn't make it crazy, really what makes this crazy is the "hear say" notion that 1. it is her boyfriends name, i mean it is in Russian and they dont give a good look at it and 2. they just met the same day

In New Zealand they used to Tattoo the face they called it maori or moko, the more intricate the design the higher status in the community  here is a link if anyone is interested moko/Maori

now none of this is to say I agree with this type of tattooing, but i hardly have an argument against it if there person wants the tattoo for heritage reason, or even for nostalgic reason, does it freak me out or disgust me when I see people with facial tattoos? of course not i understand that tattoos are only skin deep, and there is always more to the person under that stained skin.
yes I am a tattoo artist and have a biased opinion towards tattoos
But i also believe that as tattoo artists we have a duty to protect our industry, and to do this we need to police ourselves and not tattoo peoples faces for the  idea of shock and awe, why would we want to reflect a negative outlook on our profession?

some of you might be really surprised to find out that a lot of those women with that sexy beauty mark  by her mouth wasn't given to her by god, it was given to her by someone like me, also eybrows, eyeliner, lip liner  and so on, sure you can make a case of what is "acceptable" and what it isn't but arent you just grabbing at straws then?

Harry, I think that the point of the video is not necessarily negative viewpoints of tattoos in general, but rather tattoos in an obviously unappealing location. Your point about tattoos in New Zealand is a great point, because in a situation like this, the culture you live in and your goals in life mean a lot.

I have some personal opinions about tattoos that probably seem double standard to some people. One is that I think males can pull off a bad tattoo easier than a female can. A bad or mediocre tattoo on a guy can make him look more masculine, and be acceptable by most people who he encounters.

With females, a bad tattoo or a good tattoo in the wrong location can ruin their attractiveness to me entirely.

Ok, I know some people are going to say that what I think doesn't matter. I will give you a few examples though where it can matter. When I go to the doctor specifically, I always take out my earring, and make sure my tattoos are covered. Why? Because it eliminates "red flags" that could cause me problems with my doctors perceived liability in writing prescription medication. If he doesn't think there is a chance I will sell my prescription meds, I am much better off. Once I am out of the doctors office, I feel ok with changing back into a shirt with the sleeves cut out, put the earring back in, and climb back on my bike. Fact is, my doctor doesn't even know I own a Harley, and that is because I don't want him to know.

Other considerations are that after someone lives through their 20's, gets tired a partying and living a mediocre life with mediocre income, it just might occur to them that they want to go back to school, get a better education which hopefully leads to a better job and lively hood. Somewhere along the way, they are going to have to go for an interview, and therein they have a major problem if they cannot present themselves in a way that appeals to the employer they are interviewing with. A lot of employers are extremely concerned with their image, based on unforeseen events that could land them in a courtroom at some point down the road. If they perceive a potential employee to be anything other than a total asset to the company, they get passed over for another person who is a total asset. This is one of the major functions of the HR department.

I worked with a guy who when I first met him, he had a tattoo on the back of his head that said "God forgives, I don't." He managed to get himself on the payroll in spite of that tattoo. During the time period I was working with him, he first got his ex-girlfriends name tattooed on his face. Then within 6 months, he went back and had those covered with more ink, when the two of them getting back together didn't work out. Once he had that strange looking ink under each eye where he covered up her name, he just decided that he would look better having his entire head tattooed. When he finished getting his whole head covered, from a distance his head looked like a world globe.

Once he did this, the company really encouraged him to take a special offer they provided for him the first time the company had a layoff. Those who knew him well, told us that after he left, the only place he could find employment was at a tattoo shop.

Within 3 years, he intentionally killed himself in a motorcycle wreck at over 130mph.

In reality, he had limited himself in his job opportunities almost the same as someone with a felony record for a serious crime that no employer would want to be associated with.

I don't know about most people, but my goals and aspirations, as well as my total mindset, were completely different at 18 years of age, than they are now at 47.

It's a free country though, and as they say to each his own.


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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:41 am

I associate tattoos with Auschwitz and wackadoo intellects, but that's just me. It would seem that if they could come up with a good temporary tat, that it would be useful for some who feel they need the edgy look. Kind of a trial run. I can't help but sense that this poor girl, if the tat is real, is going to end up giving two-dollar BJs in alleys somewhere. Then again, who the hell would want...? Never mind.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:28 pm

explain whackadoo intellect please? LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:29 pm

I have around ten tats and I plan on getting a lot more. I understand that society does not except tats on the neck or hands and the face as evidence of this discussion. I fully feel her reason was asinine, but if it made her happy and she can fully accept the repercussions, and it continues to make her happy then good for her. I personally don't care about her face. I am a mechanic so I am fortunate enough that my arm tats are some what excepted. I have already told my wife that when and if I make it to be 60 years of age I will be getting "holdfast" on my knuckles and a nice neck piece. if that upsets anyone around me at that time in my life so be it.
As for that girl if she later on regrets her decision and feels stupid because of it then that shall be her burden to be not mine.


Plus if her house is void of mirrors she just might forget she has it
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:30 am

Doesn't bother me. Because its not my body. Is she actually a bad person because of it? Not as far as I can tell.

I have over 30 hours of tattoos, and I have no need to hide them, disguise them, or otherwise consider your or anyone else's opinion of them. I have many friends with tattoos on their arms, legs, hands, necks, heads , and even faces. This doesn't make them bad people. Look at the Maori of New Zealand tattoos on their faces is a rite of passage and completely acceptable.

I shouldn't have to hide them to get a job, and I have a job I like very much, and I'm the "boss". My tattoos don't effect my level of responsibility, maturity, or my decision making ability. I have many employees with visible tattoos (not sure how many out of. 220), and some of them are supervisors/managers.

It's not just criminals and sailors who get tattoos anymore. Now, would I get a tattoo on my face after knowing a guy/gal for a shirt time? No, but I won't judge her, nor will I generalize, demean, or judge a whole generation simply because they do get tattoos. You hang art on your wall, I put it on my skin.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:15 am

PozzSka wrote:
Doesn't bother me. Because its not my body. Is she actually a bad person because of it? Not as far as I can tell.

I have over 30 hours of tattoos, and I have no need to hide them, disguise them, or otherwise consider your or anyone else's opinion of them. I have many friends with tattoos on their arms, legs, hands, necks, heads , and even faces. This doesn't make them bad people. Look at the Maori of New Zealand tattoos on their faces is a rite of passage and completely acceptable.  

I shouldn't have to hide them to get a job, and I have a job I like very much, and I'm the "boss". My tattoos don't effect my level of responsibility, maturity, or my decision making ability.  I have many employees with visible tattoos (not sure how many out of. 220), and some of them are supervisors/managers.

It's not just criminals and sailors who get tattoos anymore. Now, would I get a tattoo on my face after knowing a guy/gal for a shirt time? No, but I won't judge her, nor will I generalize, demean, or judge a whole generation simply because they do get tattoos. You hang art on your wall, I put it on my skin.

I think you've got some valid points here, and I would be interested in learning what you do for a living.

I completely agree that a tattoo does not a person make. However it does communicate to everyone outside of you and expecting them to ignore this type of communication, insisting that their behavior change for you, is folly.

I'm always surprised by arguments that use other cultures as a point of reference. It's indisputable that other cultures do this and that it represents something to them. For most of us who participate in predominant American culture, tattoos have a negative connotation. That's changed a lot in recent decades, but facial tattoos take a leap from "oh, that's cool," to "this tattoo is who I am." It's foolish to assume that people will or should see you for who you are, acknowledging that your facial tattoo doesn't define you. Unfortunately, 99% of people you come into contact with aren't interested in spending the time to get to know you and have to make a quick assessment if they're going to interact with you at all. A facial tattoo is unexpected and outside the norm and will cause a lot of people to choose non-interaction. Your face becomes a canvas for your own person expression and just like any other canvas with art on it, will elicit responses. Positive and negative. Most employers who are hiring people that will interact with the public will not want to hire someone whose face elicits any response other than, "Oh, that person looks nice." That doesn't mean you can't get a job with a facial tattoo. It does mean that you will limit what jobs you can get. If you've got a facial tattoo (besides something culturally accepted, like a beauty mark, or eye liner) odds are most people in the states will have a knee jerk reaction and avoid someone who made a choice like this. I have an employee who has a sleeve on each arm. We're in sales, so that's fine, as long as they're covered. If he got a tattoo on his face, I guarantee an excuse would be found to terminate him.

I don't doubt that there are a lot of people in the US who love tattoos, but I bet a lot of people who got tattoos when they were young and wild regret them. For example: My girlfriend has a tattoo on her chest. It doesn't bother me, but it bothers her. She got it at a different time in her life and now regrets it. Will everyone? No way. Can tattoos be errors in judgement when made by young people who do not use foresight and lack the experience to know how much they will change over time? Absolutely.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:52 pm

I never claimed that having a tattoo won't cause people to judge you, of course they do. I've had parents tuck their children behind them when walking towards me, maybe because of visible tattoos and earrings, maybe because I'm 6'6" 265lbs. I just smile and say "hi"

But, my point is that the first several posts following the OP were either calling her stupid/dumb repeatedly, asking to be shot, thinly veiled threats of violence against the boyfriend or tattooer, comments about her ruining her face (shes actually kinda cute and the tattoo seems to fit her face pretty well, as far as conformjng to the shape of ber face), and other such disparaging comments. That is the kind of knee jerk emotional reaction that many years ago would have resulted in a lynching, exorcism, beating, arrest, etc. and, IMO, has to stop.

When people say things like that to me, I simply say, "good thing I didn't ask you before I got them."

BTW, I'm a 29yo with a Masters Degree in Healthcare Administration. I am the administrator for 13 long term care facilities, providing care for 96 individuals with severe/profiund intellectual disabilities, employing 200 or so staff (nurses, direct care, social worker, etc). And my tattoos show everyday, so do my wife's (she's in charge of the workshop).
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Face of True Love in 2013?   Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:52 pm

Nothing new about this sort of thing, I new a chap in the 80's who had a rather crude tattoo across his face, let's just say you could call him C U N T face without being rude, nasty but nothing new going on here.
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