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Kyle Weiss

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PostSubject: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:34 pm

We've all seen it, heard it, perhaps done it:  a nutty idea that a pipe must be lit at all times to be a "seasoned" or "experienced" pipe smoker.   It probably comes about from tobacco-delivery-systems' cousins, the cigarette and/or the cigar.  They almost never go out, so why not the pipe?

A pipe was brought in to my local B&M by a very "experienced" and vocal pipe smoker, along with another pipe with the same problem, to see if either could be fixed--he was quite upset and mystified by the problem of his holey pipes.  Further query discovered most of his pipes had varying issues such as this.

It wouldn't have gathered as much attention as it did, if it were not for the guy criticizing us, a much younger crowd busy enjoying our pipes in the shop at the time of his arrival, about how many spent matches lay in the ashtray and lights he saw happening.  It was this man's wise, outspoken opinion that hard, fast puffing was not only the way to truly smoke a pipe (a real man's method), but keeping it lit by one match/light was paramount.

Those of us who know better, oddly enough, know better.  Be it scientific ideas of flow dynamics, burn rates or design, or simply that our tongues and pipes last longer, perform better, and gain more enjoyment when we're not troubled with simple misconceptions and questionable advice.

Those of us that don't know better, that get caught up in decades of bad habits, get this:





Obviously, this poor pipe is a hopeless case (as well as the former owner).  It is now proudly archived at the shop as a tool to show briar is not "fireproof," excess reaming is not suggested, and ultimately--don't worry about re-lights.   Irony is alive and well.  


(Photo Courtesy Harold at Tinder Box Reno)


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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:43 pm

I'm sure you're right, Kyle, as I'm sure several of my pipes would show, esp. with my being an outdoor smoker on top of being a constant puffer. If there is any flaw in a pipe, this kind of smoking will magnify it, if nothing else
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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:06 pm

All you can do is tell him it's a good thing he buys cheap pipes, given his talent for keeping them lit.

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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:23 pm

And he also shouldn't have to ream his pipes nearly as often as those who smoke slower and need relights
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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:45 pm

That took some real dedicated suckin', man. I once took a despised pipe, lit it, and held it out the window of my car while driving. The wood started smoldering, but I couldn't get a burn-through in seven or eight miles. Wonder what his mileage was?
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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:54 pm

Now THAT's a man who does noy WASTE a milligram of his tobacco ( and must LOVE the taste of burning wood ) And he does all that with JUST ONE match ! What a man!! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil 
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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:43 pm

I've seen burnouts on the sides and even at the draft hole but, never through the bottom.
Yes, he must truly smoke every last morsel of tobacco and like one said before, like the taste of burning wood. Maybe he ought a just grind down some briar and smoke it.
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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:26 pm

Does "cognitive dissonance" apply here? I think the phrase refers to resistance to new information that contradicts beliefs that are already comfortably wedged into one's noggin. Eventually, one would think that harsh experience and unintended consequences should trump long-held notions. Say, the piper in question wasn't a tall, gray-headed fellow named Kerry, I suppose?
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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:27 pm

Kyle Weiss wrote:

If it was my pipe, i'd take it back to Office Depot for a refund.  
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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:49 pm

An enjoyable 2-3 light bowl sure beats the hell out of a tounge burning one light. But hey he must be a he man woman hater. Congrats Alfalfa.

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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:03 am

wow never have i seen a pipe that damaged. sure i broke my first pipe by carrying it in my pocket, forgot one day and sat down. that pipe was toast
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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:13 pm

Rob_In_MO wrote:
If it was my pipe, i'd take it back to Office Depot for a refund.  
If Office Depot sells pipes, I'd imagine they'd know about as much about them as they do the rest of the products in their stupid store. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:27 am

Awesome, a little carb. That actually oughta help keep the temperature down... Wink 

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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:17 am

Kyle Weiss wrote:
If Office Depot sells pipes, I'd imagine they'd know about as much about them as they do the rest of the products in their stupid store.   Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:18 am

MisterE wrote:
Awesome, a little carb. That actually oughta help keep the temperature down... Wink 
Nothing a little pipe mud won't fix. lol! 
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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:07 am

The chaps notion of how a 'real man' smokes his pipes is entirely his opinion and to my mind he has every right to his opinion although I do not agree with him I must say. Looking at that particular pipe though it does have a serious engineering flaw which will have contributed to the pipes fatal end, the dreadful heavy handed 'rustication' of the stummel has eaten away almost every last mm of Briar of the bowl base. Had the pipe been engineered better the burn out wouldn't have happened so quickly, but in fairness to the maker the guy is smoking his pipes like he's the Olympics Torch carrier and he would eventually burn out a bowl with a 3cm thick bowl base.
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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:29 pm

the problem with the guy is not that he burns out pipes, but that he tries to impose his ways on others. Now off to smoke; only have one match left in the box, but that will be plenty Wink 
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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:13 pm

Briar Spirit wrote:
The chaps notion of how a 'real man' smokes his pipes is entirely his opinion and to my mind he has every right to his opinion although I do not agree with him I must say. Looking at that particular pipe though it does have a serious engineering flaw which will have contributed to the pipes fatal end, the dreadful heavy handed 'rustication' of the stummel has eaten away almost every last mm of Briar of the bowl base. Had the pipe been engineered better the burn out wouldn't have happened so quickly, but in fairness to the maker the guy is smoking his pipes like he's the Olympics Torch carrier and he would eventually burn out a bowl with a 3cm thick bowl base.
I think it really matters less how thick the bottom is, his manner of smoking looks to be more of the problem. It was said he's had this SAME problem with OTHER pipes as well. Looks like Operator Error more to me Twisted Evil 
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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:40 pm

monbla256 wrote:
Briar Spirit wrote:
The chaps notion of how a 'real man' smokes his pipes is entirely his opinion and to my mind he has every right to his opinion although I do not agree with him I must say. Looking at that particular pipe though it does have a serious engineering flaw which will have contributed to the pipes fatal end, the dreadful heavy handed 'rustication' of the stummel has eaten away almost every last mm of Briar of the bowl base. Had the pipe been engineered better the burn out wouldn't have happened so quickly, but in fairness to the maker the guy is smoking his pipes like he's the Olympics Torch carrier and he would eventually burn out a bowl with a 3cm thick bowl base.
I think it really matters less how thick the bottom is, his manner of smoking looks to be more of the problem. It was said he's had this SAME problem with OTHER pipes as well. Looks like Operator Error more to me Twisted Evil 
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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:06 pm

I'd slap some duct tape on that.
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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:39 pm

I think one of the joking points I made after the guy left and we were busy passing around that pipe and looking through the hole: "Yeah, putting thermite in the bowl before you load your tobacco, that makes you a real man..."

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PostSubject: Re: Wisdom vs. Myth: Keeping Your Pipe Lit   Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:33 am

DrT999 wrote:
the problem with the guy is not that he burns out pipes, but that he tries to impose his ways on others.  Now off to smoke; only have one match left in the box, but that will be plenty Wink 
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