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PostSubject: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:32 am

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I guess this is where I'm supposed to fall in line and do what every other American sports writer is doing. I'm supposed to swear I won't ever write the words "Washington Redskins" anymore because it's racist and offensive and a slap in the face to all Native Americans who ever lived. Maybe it is.

I just don't quite know how to tell my father-in-law, a Blackfeet Indian. He owns a steak restaurant on the reservation near Browning, Mont. He has a hard time seeing the slap-in-the-face part.

"The whole issue is so silly to me," says Bob Burns, my wife's father and a bundle holder in the Blackfeet tribe. "The name just doesn't bother me much. It's an issue that shouldn't be an issue, not with all the problems we've got in this country."

And I definitely don't know how I'll tell the athletes at Wellpinit (Wash.) High School -- where the student body is 91.2 percent Native American -- that the "Redskins" name they wear proudly across their chests is insulting them. Because they have no idea.

"I've talked to our students, our parents and our community about this and nobody finds any offense at all in it," says Tim Ames, the superintendent of Wellpinit schools. "'Redskins' is not an insult to our kids. 'Wagon burners' is an insult. 'Prairie n-----s' is an insult. Those are very upsetting to our kids. But 'Redskins' is an honorable name we wear with pride. … In fact, I'd like to see somebody come up here and try to change it."

Boy, you try to help some people …

And it's not going to be easy telling the Kingston (Okla.) High School (57.7 percent Native American) Redskins that the name they've worn on their uniforms for 104 years has been a joke on them this whole time. Because they wear it with honor.

"We have two great tribes here," says Kingston assistant school superintendent Ron Whipkey, "the Chicasaw and the Choctaw. And not one member of those tribes has ever come to me or our school with a complaint. It is a prideful thing to them."

"It's a name that honors the people," says Kingston English teacher Brett Hayes, who is Choctaw. "The word 'Oklahoma' itself is Choctaw for 'red people.' The students here don't want it changed. To them, it seems like it's just people who have no connection with the Native American culture, people out there trying to draw attention to themselves.

"My kids are really afraid we're going to lose the Redskin name. They say to me, 'They're not going to take it from us, are they, Dad?'"

Too late. White America has spoken. You aren't offended, so we'll be offended for you.

Same story with the Red Mesa (Ariz.) High School Redskins. They wear the name with fierce pride. They absolutely don't see it as an insult. But what do they know? The student body is only 99.3 percent Native American.

And even though an Annenberg Public Policy Center poll found that 90 percent of Native Americans were not offended by the Redskins name, and even though linguists say the "redskins" word was first used by Native Americans themselves, and even though nobody on the Blackfeet side of my wife's family has ever had someone insult them with the word "redskin," it doesn't matter. There's no stopping a wave of PC-ness when it gets rolling.

I mean, when media stars like USA Today's Christine Brennan, a white woman from Ohio, and Peter King, a white man from Massachusetts, have jumped on a people's cause, there's no going back.

Besides, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said last week that if "even one person is offended" on this issue, we need to "listen."

One person?

Got it. Guess we need to listen to people who are offended by the Kansas City Chiefs' name, too. That's one that offends my father-in-law. "You see some little guy wearing a headdress made of chicken feathers," he says, "painting his face up, making a mockery of us. I hate that. Those are things you earn."

One person? I know an atheist who is offended by religious names like the New Orleans Saints and Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. There are people who who don't think Ole Miss should be the Rebels. People who lost family to Hurricanes. There are people who think Wizards promotes paganism. Shall we listen to all of them?

I guess so.

Edmundo Macedo, vice president of ESPN's Stats & Information group, told ESPN ombudsman Robert Lipsyte that the term Redskins is abhorrent. "We would not accept anything similar as a team nickname if it were associated with any other ethnicity or any other race," Macedo said.

Oh, yes, we would.

In fact, ESPN and many other media companies cover the Notre Dame Fighting Irish, the Cleveland Indians and the Atlanta Braves without a single searing search of their social conscience.

Doesn't matter. The 81-year-old Washington Redskins name is falling, and everybody better get out of the way. For the majority of Native Americans who don't care, we'll care for them. For the Native Americans who haven't asked for help, we're glad to give it to them.

Trust us. We know what's best. We'll take this away for your own good, and put up barriers that protect you from ever being harmed again.

Kind of like a reservation.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9689220/redskins-name-change-not-easy-sounds

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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:21 am

I feel so protected!
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:34 am

Qui beneficia? The moral high-strutters, the people who wouldn't know a moral concept if it bit 'em in the ass, in this case those of a leftist cast. It makes them feel good about themselves, as liberty slowly becomes a foot-note to history.
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:38 am

Sorry you guys - but with all of the problems this country is facing (deficit, wars, gun control, obummer), I think we have bigger fish to fry than worrying about the name of a Football Team.
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:50 am

When you allow others to tell you what you can say, you allow them veto power over your inborn sense of reality.

Words are stand-ins for meanings. Outlaw them, and you eliminate communicating them.

Extinguish a word, extinguish an idea.

The systematic, knee-jerk campaign to vilify WASPs as "the cancer of history" and to eliminate the terms they've used -- often for no better reason than that they use them -- ignores one salient point : that the mindset that came up with them expressed the mindset/value system that WORKED.

For everybody.

Whereas the "modern" one works -- look around -- for nobody.

All the old cliches are true.
That's why they're cliches.

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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:30 am

wow! My White butt is offended by using Celtics for a team name! DUH! People got a lot to worry over, ain't they! Guess they haven't figured out that these names were used to honor not to dishonor. Hell, Everybody is offended by something. Toughen up America quit being such wussy's oops my feline friends on the porch and in the barn are about to stage a march over that last comment!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:02 pm

They ALL know what it means, ya certainly wouldn't call your home team the "Buttheads" (are would you) they just want to stand on there soap box and see if they can control something or someone. And if that don't work they'll try to sue them for a quick Million so they're lazy asses don't have to work. Pure and simple and no doubt about it.
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:03 pm

Here we go again, rantings of old white men. Oh well, guess they need something to do with their time Twisted Evil 
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:09 pm

Well, At least ya don't see me suing or complaining to Nabisco because they call some of there products "Crackers" do ya?
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:13 pm

Just be glad that the teams ain't named for feminine hygiene products! Now them would be some interesting Mascots! who would want to wear the Tampa Bay Tampons Outfit!!!!!Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil 
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:17 pm

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Here we go again, rantings of old white men. Oh well, guess they need something to do with their time Twisted Evil 
Johnny One-Note squeaks again. I think I'm slowly becoming a racist. With a few exceptions, I'm starting to loathe whites, though not for the usual reasons. They have this lemming-like quality that offends.
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:58 pm

It's all about grandstanding and not at all about personal concern. It's pretty simple, try not offend someone unnecessarily, and try not to go looking for a reason to have been offended. Heaven forbid we should condone tolerance and forgiveness, having a thick skin, and concerning yourself with things that actually matter.

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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:59 pm

There's people who like the structure of being told what to say, what is okay and what is not. There's people who like to be in control of this process. The rest are those who dare to say something about either.

Cartaphilus wrote:
Well, At least ya don't see me suing or complaining to Nabisco because they call some of there products "Crackers" do ya?
And here we have the post that sums up everything intelligently and perfectly.

Anyone pointing out any color of anyone's skin at this point doesn't understand what "racism" really means. People are people.

The end.

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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:05 pm

"You might as well fall flat on your face as to lean too far backwards"
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:21 pm

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White people scare me.
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:23 pm

Not like I get invited to HOA meetings or ice-cream socials. Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:27 pm

HOA scratch 

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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:30 pm

Homeowners Associations. The folks other folks pay to tell the paying folks what color roof shingles are allowed. The same folks that wouldn't appreciate a giant water- and wind-powered synthesizer sculpture on the front lawn of my future compound. tongue
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:48 pm

[quote="Kyle Weiss"]There's people who like the structure of being told what to say, what is okay and what is not.   There's people who like to be in control of this process.  The rest are those who dare to say something about either.  

Cartaphilus wrote:
 

Anyone pointing out any color of anyone's skin at this point doesn't understand what "racism" really means.   People are people.

The end.  

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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:54 pm

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Just be glad that the teams ain't named for feminine hygiene products!  Now them would be some interesting Mascots! who would want to wear the Tampa Bay Tampons Outfit!!!!!Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil 
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:18 pm

That about helps me decide on what not to eat for supper------Salad is OUT!!!Mad 
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:57 pm

Cartaphilus wrote:
Well, At least ya don't see me suing or complaining to Nabisco because they call some of there products "Crackers" do ya?
Good one!!
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:53 pm

'Bout time too. The world moves on, for better or worse, and this one's well past it's sell by date. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil 
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:38 pm

Frank Zappa wrote:
"Who are the brain police?"

The pompous, sanctimonious, self-righteous assclowns who insist that everyone "think" as they do, that's who.

Cartaphilus wrote:
...they just want to stand on there (sic) soap box and see if they can control something or someone...Pure and simple and no doubt about it.
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Yup. Nailed it...well, except for the fact that they'll never have their "fair share" until they completely dominate and control every aspect of everyone else's life.

It's coercion. It's wrong masquerading as "right". Some of them run for office, and the ones that don't get the ones that do to put the coercive muscle behind their brain police agendas.

It's time we laughed these assclowns off the stage. If everyone stopped taking them as seriously as they take themselves, they'd scurry back to their holes like the vermin they are.

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PostSubject: Re: 2 Minutes of Reality   Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:44 am

Another Two Minutes :

Marc Oromaner wrote:
Back in September, 2010, Wired magazine published a discussion between two of its tech writers, Kevin Kelly and Steven Johnson about where ideas come from. Despite the stereotype of the solitary genius toiling away in his basement, the duo argued that great discoveries typically come not from individual minds but from the hive mind, aka, the collective consciousness. History shows that the most game-changing innovations including calculus, the electric battery, the telephone, the steam engine, the radio, and thousands more, were all uncovered simultaneously by different inventors who had no knowledge of one another. As Malcolm Gladwell brought up in a 2008 New Yorker article titled “In The Air,” this phenomenon of simultaneous discovery, innovation, and invention is extremely common. So much so, historians even have a term for it—“multiples.” It’s almost as if all these breakthroughs come from the same, unseen information source.

The concept reminds me of a lesson from one of my college anthropology classes that had been wedged somewhere deep within the recesses of my brain. It was about an isolated group of monkeys on some island that had learned to use sticks as tools to get at termites or wash sweet potatoes or something to that effect. Despite no other group of monkeys on record having this knowledge, allegedly, after a critical mass of these monkeys had learned the technique, monkeys on other islands began to use the same technique, as if their minds were somehow all connected.

“Hive mind” experiments have also been done with humans to see if we are similarly connected. In the late 1980’s British biologist Rupert Sheldrake’s The Presence of the Past reported on experiments that he felt proved a collective human memory. In one, a difficult hidden figure puzzle was solved much faster by various groups around the world after its solution had been made known to millions during a British television broadcast. Even though these groups had not seen the broadcast, they were able to solve the puzzle much faster than earlier groups who’d tried before the solution had been aired. It’s as though they all somehow had access to the same info or were sharing one mind.
http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/09/20/hive-mind-invisible-thread/

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