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PostSubject: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:01 pm

Hey guys and gals,

Well, I made it to China finally. We're out here to adopt our little girl, and we get to meet her for the first time today! I'll probably start another thread about that, because this one is more about pipes!

We're staying in this awesome hotel. In fact, it may be the nicest I've ever been in, and I've traveled a good bit so I'm not comparing this to a Motel 8 Very Happy

Last night, as we're walking to the elevators, my wife stopped me and said, "Brian look!". Low and behold, she was pointing at a very quaint pipe shop. I haven't gotten to visit it yet, but it looks like they've got at least 50 pipes. I'd love to buy a local pipe to commemorate this time in my life, and I'd love for it to be locally made...if possible. Do you guys have any brands you know of that I should look for?

Thanks!

Brian.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:11 pm

Wish I could help; I hope one of the brothers can. In any case, if you have the time, some images would be great! And again, best of luck with the adoption
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:20 pm

I heard there are a lot of Chinese pipes made by Todd Johnson, well designed by him at least Smile

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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:31 pm

Here are some I snapped of the hotel lobby...

A lot of times the lobby looks amazing, and the rooms only look "ok", not the case here!





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PostSubject: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:53 pm

Nope, that ain't Best Western, either! Really fine digs.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:59 pm

Dunhill.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:48 pm

Get a pipe that is stamped Made in USA Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:52 pm

Wow that's one hell of a hotel lobby.

I wonder what pipes are available in China? Maybe grab a good Italian made pipe if you can? Radice, Jacopo, Castello, Jacono, Ardor, Ascorti..
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:05 pm

Great pics, Brian! Glad to hear you guys arrived safely.

If you're thinking about a locally made pipe (ie Chinese) there probably isn't much to go off of. I only know of one Chinese carver, P. Zhan.

I think your best bet is to buy a pipe to commemorate the trip, but maybe not necessarily one Chinese made.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:10 pm

tyler wrote:
Dunhill.
If the Chinese treat pipes like they do wine (mostly interested in a few famous brands), that could be what is available
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:44 pm

They make a lot of purchases and cut a lot of deals at the Chicago show. Could be a lot of quality pipes for sale.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:07 am

I went to the Dunhill shop in Shanghai. Not one pipe related item in the entire store! All clothes and accessories.

There are tons of tobacco shops in China. Almost all of them had pipes, too. What they didn't sell was pipe tobacco! Just cigarettes. In all of Shanghai, not one tobacco store I found sold actual pipe tobacco.scratch

Do get a knock-off Rolex, though. Some of them are actually really, really good watches in their own right.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:58 am

Thanks for the thoughts. I would love to get a quality Chinese carved pipe, but didn't know if there were really any brands out there. The more I think about it, the more I realize that's probably not the case. So, maybe I'll just get a pipe I like, while in China to commemorate that way.

I looked over the shop well and saw some interesting options. I snapped some photos. They seemed to have three main brands, Peterson, CC, and Big Ben, with prices ranging from about $140 US to $410 being the highest.

Here are some shots...

(Most of these weren't Petersons, but you can buy the whole set for $2,178 Yaun) Laughing



(I might give this paneled pipe another look. It had a silver cap and maybe military mount. I didn't ask them to take it out...yet...)





(These weren't Savs, but I can't remember what brand they were)





...Also, I said I'd probably start a new thread about the adoption, but for my level of brain function and energy at this point, that sounds daunting. So, I'll just say, we've met her and now she's back at our hotel coloring with the kids. She's a wonderful little girl, and so far, we're all doing well.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:16 am

That's one heck of a hotel! Is the pipe shop located in the lobby???

Congrats on the adoption too!
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:44 am

Great to hear the new addition to the family is fitting right in!

As far as the pipes, every piping man needs a Pete. I recommend getting one with a military mount or a Pete system pipe.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:45 am

Awesome lobby. Congrats on the adoption. More children around the world needs a stable home. Congrats for the child as well on their new family. And really cool pipe shop.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:47 am

Ocelot55 wrote:
Great to hear the new addition to the family is fitting right in!

As far as the pipes, every piping man needs a Pete. I recommend getting one with a military mount or a Pete system pipe.

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^! You can't go wrong with a Pete. Best wishes to you, your family, and the wonderful little bundle of love. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:20 pm

Very happy for you sir! You've made it through the hardest part (supposedly) and your family is growing in what seems like a very positive way!

As for the pipes, being of Asian-American heritage, I can tell you the Chinese want to do 2 things: Make $$ and make it easy to get it from you. On behalf of the Chinese, I apologize for the state of things to a western disposition, but you have to understand it's a complete and pervasive cultural paradigm.

They will make things look more western, so they'll be more accessible. In the case of crafted goods like a pipe, you are not likely to know the "good" from the "bad" by name only. Nothing is sacred; you can get some nice deals, but more often than not things will be knocked off. SuspectYou're probably already wary of things, so I guess my advice is to aim low to avoid disappointment. Neutral

I understand that you're looking for a special commemorative item, but I don't know if it'll be quite up to par as the rest of the pipemaking countries of the world. The fact that the shop carries "other" makes might be promising, but you'd never until you smoke them and then is there any recourse if it doesn't turn out right? I guess that's the case for most things both abroad and domestically (USA for us I mean), so good luck!

Besides, couldn't you make your own "Chinese" pipe when you get back? Wink Just judiciously use bamboo and...
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:41 pm

how bout make a pipe while in China? it would then be Chinese right?

Sorry I am not of any help, but Congrats on meeting the little one I hope everything goes well for you and your family!
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:02 pm

MisterE wrote:
Do get a knock-off Rolex, though. Some of them are actually really, really good watches in their own right.
I love this idea! Dangit..., now you got me thinking watches...
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:03 pm

aquaholic wrote:
That's one heck of a hotel! Is the pipe shop located in the lobby???

Congrats on the adoption too!
Thanks! Yeah, the pipe shop is in the lobby off to the side, maybe where they'd normally have a trinket-type shop. It's only maybe 10'x10' total, but it's well appointed.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:05 pm

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Ocelot55 wrote:
Great to hear the new addition to the family is fitting right in!

As far as the pipes, every piping man needs a Pete. I recommend getting one with a military mount or a Pete system pipe.
This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^! You can't go wrong with a Pete. Best wishes to you, your family, and the wonderful little bundle of love. Smile

AJ
Yeah, It looks like it will most likely be a Pete, unless something just totally catches my eye.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:12 pm

mejoshee wrote:
Very happy for you sir! You've made it through the hardest part (supposedly) and your family is growing in what seems like a very positive way!

As for the pipes, being of Asian-American heritage, I can tell you the Chinese want to do 2 things: Make $$ and make it easy to get it from you. On behalf of the Chinese, I apologize for the state of things to a western disposition, but you have to understand it's a complete and pervasive cultural paradigm.

They will make things look more western, so they'll be more accessible. In the case of crafted goods like a pipe, you are not likely to know the "good" from the "bad" by name only. Nothing is sacred; you can get some nice deals, but more often than not things will be knocked off. SuspectYou're probably already wary of things, so I guess my advice is to aim low to avoid disappointment. Neutral

I understand that you're looking for a special commemorative item, but I don't know if it'll be quite up to par as the rest of the pipemaking countries of the world. The fact that the shop carries "other" makes might be promising, but you'd never until you smoke them and then is there any recourse if it doesn't turn out right? I guess that's the case for most things both abroad and domestically (USA for us I mean), so good luck!

Besides, couldn't you make your own "Chinese" pipe when you get back? ;)Just judiciously use bamboo and...
Yeah, unfortunately I wouldn't know a fugazzi pipe too well. I'm not a major collector by any means. At least having made a good number of pipes, I can tell one that's put together well. Branding for branding sake won't matter much for this purchase. I'd never sell it anyway. But out of morbid curiosity on it's legitimacy, I'll definitely post some pics and see what y'all think.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:13 pm

BigCasino wrote:
how bout make a pipe while in China? it would then be Chinese right?

Sorry I am not of any help, but Congrats on meeting the little one I hope everything goes well for you and your family!
...and here's me half the way across the world, without my lathe. What was I thinking? Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:50 am

I thought I'd give you all a quick update.

I've been China now for a bit over a week. We started out in Chongqing, which is a HUGE city and province. To me it's oppressive, dirty and overcrowded.

My adopted daughter is healthy as a horse so far, but my middle child came down with strep throat. We were getting very nervous for her for a while, but we were prepared with meds and had some great help from a doctor friend back at home. We did see a doctor here who was trained in Western medicine, but it was hard to tell. That's a long story.

I'm sick of creepy food. I ordered some szechuan chicken the other day thinking I might enjoy it. It even looked somewhat appetizing. What I bit into can best be described as stone cold chicken and bone-blood soup. I promptly pushed it aside.

I had the time of my life tonight though. I left the fam in the hotel to get ready for bed, and I hit the streets for some scrounging, or street shopping. I love looking at all the trinkets, trying to talk with the vendors and bargaining for better deals. I bought a very nice fake Rolex as MisterE (I believe) suggested. I told the guy selling them, "I know they're fake, but which ones are better fakes?". He nodded in admittance that they were fake and pointed me to the rolex with the automatic wind. It was one I was leaning towards to anyway, so I bought it for $50.

Only one more week here, and we get to all come home!

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