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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:07 am

Hang tough buddy, it will all be worth it when it's done! good luck finding better food
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:59 pm

Growley,

I spent six weeks in Shanghai a while back ('08) and found almost nothing of local pipe production with one exception. I got to know Lesley Nyng, he owned Gloredo pipes and ran the Shanghai Pipe board (which had thousands of active members!). He was looking to move production from Hong Kong up to Shanghai, but I don't know if he ever did it. Great guy, we had drinks and dinner together with other members of his pipe board a few times and I was graciously treated by them all.

I've never seen Gloredo pipes in the US, and only at a very up-scale pipe boutique in Shanghai. Lesley indicated that he was trying to get into the US market, but there were problems. They looked like really nice pipes. All I found in pipes over there were horrendously overpriced Dunhills and other European brands that could be gotten for much less back in the States. Finding decent tobacco was an even bigger problem.

What I pieced together is that the PRC has granted monopolies to several state run enterprises, and although "free-market" competition is growing, if you try to compete with a state run company, you will find all sorts of paperwork and permits tangling up your business. All the business men know what this is all about, and don't try to fight the system. It turns out that tobacco production and cigarette production is a state run enterprise, so helping develop a pipe carving industry or producing decent pipe tobacco is viewed as competition to this cash cow.

The government involvement with cigarettes creates a rather interesting dichotomy; on one hand they know what the long-term health impacts of cigarette smoking creates (1/3 of all cigarette smokers on Earth are in China, and their tobacco is cheap, harsh, nasty, and many of their popular brands do not have filters) and seem to be trying to curtail smoking (they passed a smoking ban in certain public places in April of 2011, but I think it was mostly in tourist areas were Westerners were complaining of the lack of smoke free environments). Yet it makes a lot of money for them.

Bottom line, unless a lot has changed, I doubt you'll find any deals (especially in such an up-scale hotel/boutique, where high-end Western prices are the norm). The only locally made pipes I ever found were poorly made of unknown wood (one looked like it was carved from a treated 2/4?) with funky metal inserts at the bottom of the bowl (looked like a poorly designed dope pipe to me, not that I would know what one would look like, mind youCool) that had what I am convinced was used motor oil dripping from the inside of the bowl (a most interesting curing process).

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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:14 pm

Yeah, while I was out last night, I saw two pipes, but these were most likely not for normal tobacco... They reminded me of an old tire iron.


I decided against buying one of those.

But, I did find some interesting pieces of horn that I'd like to use for extensions and such. I'm nervous to buy too much fearing I'll get thrown in a Chinese prison...or even a US one for that matter. Any thoughts on bringing horn into the US?

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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:28 pm

Growley wrote:
Yeah, while I was out last night, I saw two pipes, but these were most likely not for normal tobacco... They reminded me of an old tire iron.


I decided against buying one of those.

But, I did find some interesting pieces of horn that I'd like to use for extensions and such. I'm nervous to buy too much fearing I'll get thrown in a Chinese prison...or even a US one for that matter. Any thoughts on bringing horn into the US?

Since real horn is an animal by-product you might want to check with the US Customs office at the embassy about any regs concerning bring this item back into the US. Sounds like your having a nice trip anyway RazzRazz
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PostSubject: Replica Watches   Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:35 pm

Not to hi jack the post. I like rep watches and if you go to the forum replica watches giude at the bottom is a trusted dealers section. $50 is a fair price on a Chinese Rolex. Its probably got a 21 jewel movement. They dont run as fast as the real thing. There are better movements that bump it up but a a lot more money than the 21 jewel. If you look at the second hand, the 21 jewel will twitch 6 times a second ish. The faster movement is 8 times. Does not sound like a lot but the 8 twitch movement is a lot smoother.

Looks like a fun trip, I was there in 1990 and China has changed A LOT since then.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:47 pm

rx2man wrote:
Not to hi jack the post. I like rep watches and if you go to the forum replica watches giude at the bottom is a trusted dealers section. $50 is a fair price on a Chinese Rolex. Its probably got a 21 jewel movement. They dont run as fast as the real thing. There are better movements that bump it up but a a lot more money than the 21 jewel. If you look at the second hand, the 21 jewel will twitch 6 times a second ish. The faster movement is 8 times. Does not sound like a lot but the 8 twitch movement is a lot smoother.

Looks like a fun trip, I was there in 1990 and China has changed A LOT since then.

No no...hijack away. I'm no longer there, and didn't find a pipe, so let's talk about the watch!

Here's a pic of what I got, it's not a Rolex, it's an Omega Seamaster "Planet Ocean" special edition. It's a self-winding watch, and tends to lose 8-10 minutes at night on the nightstand.

I'm curious about the dials at the bottom. One obviously shows the hour in military time, but what do the other two do? Each one is controlled by a button, which makes the hand jump one marker with every click. I'm wondering if they're actually used for anything, or just there for looks. Any thoughts?



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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:10 pm

Growley wrote:
rx2man wrote:
Not to hi jack the post. I like rep watches and if you go to the forum replica watches giude at the bottom is a trusted dealers section. $50 is a fair price on a Chinese Rolex. Its probably got a 21 jewel movement. They dont run as fast as the real thing. There are better movements that bump it up but a a lot more money than the 21 jewel. If you look at the second hand, the 21 jewel will twitch 6 times a second ish. The faster movement is 8 times. Does not sound like a lot but the 8 twitch movement is a lot smoother.

Looks like a fun trip, I was there in 1990 and China has changed A LOT since then.

No no...hijack away. I'm no longer there, and didn't find a pipe, so let's talk about the watch!

Here's a pic of what I got, it's not a Rolex, it's an Omega Seamaster "Planet Ocean" special edition. It's a self-winding watch, and tends to lose 8-10 minutes at night on the nightstand.

I'm curious about the dials at the bottom. One obviously shows the hour in military time, but what do the other two do? Each one is controlled by a button, which makes the hand jump one marker with every click. I'm wondering if they're actually used for anything, or just there for looks. Any thoughts?




The 2-5-7 dial is the day of the week, the other clock is for setting a time in a different zone.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:45 pm

Awesome! That makes total sense. I knew it was something totally obvious... either that or just fake dials to make it look pretty.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in China, and I need your help!   Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:35 pm

I have a Omega PO, but no sub dials. I have a Rolex as well but everyone knows a Rolex and I think a lot assume FAKE. Not that I try to pass one off as real either. I always say its a "Chinese .........." and people know. Wearing a non Rolex always gets a conversation going. I love the P.O.'s, nice looking watches. Yours looks good. Hopefully it lasts a while. If you are not wearing it everyday you may not want it on a winder. My understanding with the knock off is they run dry. The people assembling them would over oil them which caused more problems than no oiling. Well sorta, the watch will eventually grind itself apart but I think people say they get a good couple yrs out of em. I only wear mine occasionally so hope it will last longer.
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