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oldbear58

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PostSubject: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyTue Jan 21, 2014 10:32 pm

A few months ago I realized that I didn't have a pipe at my shop.  Having wood and a lathe I decided to whip up something that could be smoked.  After a couple of tries  and some testing I find that my odd looking attempt smokes quite cool and is enjoyable, if not a showpiece.

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Growley

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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyTue Jan 21, 2014 11:47 pm

Looks smokable to me!

As a concerned brother, I just have to put this out there though. If you didn't use briar for the bowl, and don't know the toxicity levels of the wood you did use, you might want to look into it before puffing too much on it. Some wood types can be quite harmful if used in these kinds of ways. Some people are aware of this, but some aren't. I never even thought about it until I started making pipes.

I dug up a link on toxic woods in case you need it. You can see it Here!

Hope this helps.

Brian.

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oldbear58

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PostSubject: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyWed Jan 22, 2014 1:25 am

Maple is usually considered pretty safe.

Looking over the list you referenced suggests that I stay home in bed and avoid touching any wood products for life.

What about toothpicks? Salad bowls and tongs? Cutting boards?

I promise I won't make a pipe from oleander!

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RDPipes

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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyWed Jan 22, 2014 9:51 am

oldbear58 wrote:
Maple is usually considered pretty safe.

Looking over the list you referenced suggests that I stay home in bed and avoid touching any wood products for life.

What about toothpicks?  Salad bowls and tongs?  Cutting boards?

I promise I won't make a pipe from oleander!

Oldbear

Smoking out of and handling are two different things.
The heat in which a pipe produces while drawing on it is approximately 750 degrees and this can certainly release oils into the tobacco that can be very toxic to us. Handling and eating off of is different and I think this is what has to be kept in mind.
I'm sure Brian only had this in mind when posting the list.
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Richard Burley

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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyWed Jan 22, 2014 12:31 pm

"Primitive" or "colonial."  I can't make up my mind.   scratch

As for toxicity, it seems to me that people who cook on wood fires, or sit around a campfire, or even just have a fireplace in use would ingest these toxins by the bagful. I'm speaking of the common U.S.A. woods, of course, not some weird exotic of which I know nothing.
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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyWed Jan 22, 2014 1:31 pm

Thank you for the po. I have heard that madrone or mansanita were used for pipes during WW2. The list had no mention of these woods. Oh well.
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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyWed Jan 22, 2014 1:59 pm

I didn't mean to derail this thread. In kindness I was just trying to throw out a caution.
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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyWed Jan 22, 2014 2:32 pm

I think it looks cool! Has the mountain man vibe.  cheers 

Brian, would you mind throwing up a link for that article on the toxicity of various woods? I'm curious.

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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyWed Jan 22, 2014 2:55 pm

MisterE wrote:
I think it looks cool! Has the mountain man vibe.  cheers 

Brian, would you mind throwing up a link for that article on the toxicity of various woods? I'm curious.

Sure. Here it is.

http://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/wood-allergies-and-toxicity/

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ejames

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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyWed Jan 22, 2014 4:18 pm

My favorite briar alternative is not listed on that page. Mulberry-makes a fine pipe.
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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyWed Jan 22, 2014 4:39 pm

ejames wrote:
My favorite briar alternative is not listed on that page. Mulberry-makes a fine pipe.

Hi Ed!

Properly cured mulberry wood makes a fine smoking pipe. I have a large custom made EJames mulberry poker --light weight, cool smoking, and needed little time to break in -- it won't be my last  Wink 
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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyWed Jan 22, 2014 10:31 pm

Thanks, Brian!!

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PostSubject: Wood toxicity   Primitive but smokes well EmptyThu Jan 23, 2014 1:22 am

In this vein I might mention that elderberry wood is quite toxic:
Toxicity

The leaves, twigs, branches, seeds and roots contain a Cyanide producing Glycoside. Ingesting any of these parts in sufficient quantity can cause a toxic build up of cyanide in the body. In addition, the unripened berry, flowers and "Umbels" contain a toxic Alkaloid.
Due to the possibility of cyanide poisoning, children should be discouraged from making whistles, slingshots or other toys from elderberry wood. In addition, "herbal teas" made with elderberry leaves (which contain cyanide inducing glycosides) should be treated with high caution. However, ripe berries (pulp and skin) are safe to eat.
http://theplantencyclopedia.org/wiki/Sambucus

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klause

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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyThu Jan 23, 2014 2:23 am

Back on track - that is a cracking pipe, that I would be delighted to have in my hand - it has the presence and utilitarianism that would make it a firm favourite and a regular smoker (probably too regular).

In short I really, really like it.

Even better? You made it herself, so it was free - way to go, Oldbear  :sunny: :sunny: 
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PostSubject: Interesting wood toxicity data   Primitive but smokes well EmptyThu Jan 23, 2014 2:56 am

Interesting links:
http://www.birdsafe.com/woods.htm

http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/hardwoods/mulberry/

This I might try:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Manzanita-Burl-Turning-Wood-Knife-Scale-Wood-Working-Rustic-MZ20-/171071098763?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27d4a1cf8b

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PostSubject: Mulberry    Primitive but smokes well EmptyThu Jan 23, 2014 9:06 am

[img]Primitive but smokes well 1FD7DDBD-A2BB-4333-8893-5353F7A440F1-15381-00001DBDD6B6105F_zps264a2c5b[/img] Here is the first Mulberry pipe EJames made for me, crackerjack pipe.
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PostSubject: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyThu Jan 23, 2014 9:57 am

cajun wrote:
Primitive but smokes well %3Cimg%20src=" /> Here is the first Mulberry pipe EJames made for me, crackerjack pipe.
 
That's a beauty, Cajun.
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PostSubject: Grain   Primitive but smokes well EmptyThu Jan 23, 2014 10:02 am

[img]Primitive but smokes well C89A4807-048E-4674-A9EE-81F85A5C5E88-15381-00001DBEE911DD77_zps45cd2a71[/img] they are left Natural, grain is stunning, break in 2 or 3 smokes, very good smokers, extremely light.
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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyThu Jan 23, 2014 3:31 pm

+1

Mulberry wood makes a fine pipe and Ed James' work is absolutely superb.

I'm smoking my EJames Mulberry right now  Wink


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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyThu Jan 23, 2014 6:27 pm

Another beautiful pipe cajun. You really have some fine specimens in your collection!

 Cool 


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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyFri Jan 24, 2014 2:59 pm

rothnh wrote:
+1

Mulberry wood makes a fine pipe and Ed James' work is absolutely superb.

I'm smoking my EJames Mulberry right now  Wink

Just out of curiosity, I know Ed James used to sell some of his wares on the now defunct BriarBid, do you know how to contact him? Does he have a website?

Beautiful Mulberry.
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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyFri Jan 24, 2014 3:22 pm

DrumsAndBeer wrote:
rothnh wrote:
+1

Mulberry wood makes a fine pipe and Ed James' work is absolutely superb.

I'm smoking my EJames Mulberry right now  Wink

Just out of curiosity, I know Ed James used to sell some of his wares on the now defunct BriarBid, do you know how to contact him? Does he have a website?

Beautiful Mulberry.

I suggest you send Ed James a PM here at BoB.  As you noted, Ed is also a member of Pipes Magazine Forums, so you could PM Ed there as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyFri Jan 24, 2014 4:06 pm

rothnh wrote:
I suggest you send Ed James a PM here at BoB.  As you noted, Ed is also a member of Pipes Magazine Forums, so you could PM Ed there as well.

I wasn't aware that he was a BoB member, what's his handle?
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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyFri Jan 24, 2014 4:20 pm

DrumsAndBeer wrote:
rothnh wrote:
I suggest you send Ed James a PM here at BoB.  As you noted, Ed is also a member of Pipes Magazine Forums, so you could PM Ed there as well.

I wasn't aware that he was a BoB member, what's his handle?

Just to make sure, I checked the "Memberlist" (at the top of the BoB home page, for your future reference) -- Ed's screen name here is "ejames"  --Ed uses the same screen name on PM Forums.
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PostSubject: Re: Primitive but smokes well   Primitive but smokes well EmptyFri Jan 24, 2014 4:36 pm

rothnh wrote:
Just to make sure, I checked the "Memberlist" (at the top of the BoB home page, for your future reference) -- Ed's screen name here is "ejames"  --Ed uses the same screen name on PM Forums.

Thanks!  Very Happy 
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