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J Soshae

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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:26 am

Am i hearing correctly? The second nurse's fiancée is now under observation?
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:25 am

Might not be PC, but I understand napalm has some nice sanitizing effects.
Just saying.
I have a great cartoon I could post, but the mods would be on it like a goose on a junebug (g)..
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:27 pm

bosun1 wrote:
I have a great cartoon I could post, but the mods would be on it like a goose on a junebug (g)..

PM it to me, B, if that's allowed.  I can take it.  

Hey, anyone ever doubled the number one twenty times?  I find math fascinating.
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:41 pm

Post it.. The worse thing that can happen is you get a stern warning.. Act  ignorant and humble and they don't even punch you in the face anymore... Place has went to hell lately..
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:15 pm

J Soshae wrote:
Am i hearing correctly? The second nurse's fiancée is now under observation?

Well, he prolly got some body fluids on him. Dontchathink? Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:01 pm

Mmm, interesting thoughts. It seems that the rest of the passengers on the flight are now being sought. The governments can't think very highly of their general populous. Apparently the latest casualty wasn't showing signs of the illness whilst on the plane so there's no need for the other passengers to worry.
So, if there's no risk (inferred from the lack of symptoms displayed in the casualty), why the need to track them down? And, do they not think that most people realise that most viruses and bacterias have a 'gestation' period before the symptoms are seen?
But hey, if you can't trust the governments of the world, then who can you trust?
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:57 pm

21 days...


And I got to ask what a random poster on a 'news' article wrote.  If it is Actually only communicable via body fluids... Why is the military in full gas mask not catching it and the medical people in simple mouth covers and eyeshields catching it?  

If it is only communicable via body fluids why put the hazmat crew in their chemical warfare outfits to clean the apartments?   

And why hunt for an entire flight of people?  Why not the entire airport, both of them... And the luggage handlers, the taxi drivers, the security that may or may not have randomly felt her up, the kid wearing the fancy title of barrister that made her over roasted coffee?  The hotel rooms she stayed in, the cleaning ladies, the taxi or rental cars?   

None of this stuff makes sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:49 pm

Malaria kills between 0.5 and 1 million people every year. Yes ebola is a nasty bug and we should be doing a lot more to contain it. But since the first reported ebola case in the 1970s until today there have been less than 10,000 documented deaths. Malaria kills more than that in one day!
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:54 pm

Yeah but again... Malaria kills Africans and Latinos, and occasionally an Arab or Asian... Who cares...
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:01 pm

puros_bran wrote:
Yeah but again... Malaria kills Africans and Latinos, and occasionally an Arab or Asian... Who cares...

Sounds like this thing needs to move to the Rubber Room Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:12 pm

monbla256 wrote:
puros_bran wrote:
Yeah but again... Malaria kills Africans and Latinos, and occasionally an Arab or Asian... Who cares...

Sounds like this thing needs to move to the Rubber Room Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

Why? Is there an irony detector in there?
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:10 pm

Thank you Richard.....   Same thing as Ebola... Nobody cares until US citizens are dying.. Or as I said earlier


5,000 Africans die and nobody bats an eye
2 Americans die and everybody loses their mind.

Edited In: there are workable treatments for Malaria and malaria prevention.   There is only one FDA non approved drug that cures Ebola and they can't approve it without study because it might have worse side effects than hemmohraging out and dying a painful death.
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:46 pm

A cruise ship got turned away from Mexico today. A person who handled specimen testing decided it was a good time to get on a ship with thousands of passengers.

Pay the medical workers an enormous hazard pay and lock them down.
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:15 am

Ok so I'm not sure how much stock to put in this but I'll share what hospital staff here has been told about what happened to the second nurse. The staff here was told that she was not wearing her PPD(PPE) for the first three days she treated her patient. PPD/PPE depends on where you're at in the country I guess but for those that don't know its personal protective devices or equipment. Usually consists of a full gown, hair covering, gloves, respiratory mask, and either goggles or a full face shield. Whether this is true or nit I don't know. It could be or it could be hospital administrators trying to scare staff into wearing their PPD/PPE.
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:55 am

Standard PPE generally involves gloves and hand hygiene.  Then you have patient populations that involve different degrees of isolation.  Contact isolation for Clostridium for example, which requires the addition of a gown.  Droplet isolation for flu, which you have the joy of mask and face shield.  Airborne for TB, in which you have a particle mask and a negative pressure room.  If you work in the ED, unless there is a red flag or a patient history, you risk initial exposure to whatever brought them in.  Regarding Ebola, they've provided us with zero information as of yet.  Now that it's in a large metroplex, there's a good chance it will travel, and there will be a learning curve in which some of us will be infected.  In time, we'll learn how to deal with this, but there will be some losses.  Welcome to the world of healthcare.  
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:20 am

The scary part is they're saying she wasn't wearing any of the PPE. I don't envy anyone being forced into this situation. Hopefully the government will get off its butt and issue hospitals with some kind of helpful information. Until then things are likely to just get worse.
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:08 am

It's impossible to contain with PPE.  It's like those 'rescue inhalers' we were required to carry in the chemical plants, by the time you actually find the thing to put on its to late.  

Spending 2.9 trillion (imaginary number I just made up, government will say it's way lower, hospitals will say it's way higher... We'll pay for it in higher taxes, higher medical cost, and higher insurance rates regardless)  to suit up every Medical filed worker won't stop it from spreading, and it won't keep them from contracting the virus.  I've been to a Surgeons office and a hospital since the outbreak.. They already have the copy machine signs on the counter and the receptionist/register/nurse whatever ask.. By the time I walk in there (if I had it) it's to late to ask those questions.     Plus all the PPE in the world doesn't keep Dr Doolittle  from catching it at the gentlemans club or Nurse Rhonda from catching it on the bus.
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:18 pm

the bottom line is one guy made it to Dallas and got sick. then 2 healthcare workers with direct care got sick. no one with indirect contact hospitals/planes/ships or anyone that took care of the doc's they brought over when they became sick have become sick. so now we have a grand total of 2 sick healthcare workers.
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:27 pm

So far, that we know of...   

Does the 'outbreak' Warrent concern? Duh....
Does it warrant the hysteria, the news coverage, the half a billion new hospital printer pages on "have you travelled to Liberia lately?" And an EBOLA Czar (wtf?, really? ).  Probably not.
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Sun Oct 19, 2014 3:21 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Sun Oct 19, 2014 3:47 pm

Recent history suggests that what you guys get in the US, we get in the UK about 6 months later.
Can we please make this an exception? Very Happy

By the way, aren't the Kardasians in Star Trek?
Oops - wrong spelling Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:30 pm

As requested. Expecting a warning but just gotta say it. When you realize your mother will lie to you if she feels the need, then where does that put every one else?

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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:56 pm

Just heard a person in NYC has just tested positive for ebola.
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:50 am

Simple Man wrote:
Just heard a person in NYC has just tested positive for ebola.
It's true. He passed through JFK on his way back to the States. The CBP Officers that processed him REFERRED HIM FOR MEDICAL SCREENING AND HE WAS RELEASED BY CDC!!!!! Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Ebola Virus in US   Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:08 am

What really sucks is I was stockpiling for the zombie 'pocolypse and it turns out it just kills you.. What am I going to do with 750 crossbow bolts and all these sharp sticks?
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