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tarheel7734

tarheel7734

Age : 40
Location : Asheville NC
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PostSubject: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 4:15 pm

Today I got an 8oz and 2 2oz tins of penzance. The 8oz was dried completely. I am currently trying to re-hydrate it by using a humidor puck and a damp paper towel in a zip-lock. Anyone have positive experience in re-hydrating baccy?
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Feazelle-n-it

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Location : Roanoke, VA
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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 4:43 pm

I used the damp paper towel on a folded business card trick and it worked well.
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DrumsAndBeer

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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 4:46 pm

Sorry to hear about your Penzance.

Here's what I do to re-hydrate tobacco.

Get a Glad or Ziplock disposable storage container and put no more than an ounce of tobacco at a time into it. With flakes or a cut like Penzance, it's best not to stack the flakes up in the container or just pile them in because you want good even distribution of moisture to the tobacco.

Moisten a paper towel and drape it over the edges of the disposable storage container and put the lid on it. The paper towel should never be "wet," only just barely damp and it should never make contact with the tobacco. Check on the tobacco every 4-6 hours, gently turning the flakes in the process. Re-hydrating tobacco can take several hours, and it's not uncommon to have to re-moisturize the towel or to let batches sit overnight.

This process is like smoking brisket or pork shoulder. Low and slow is the key to yielding best results.

Good luck
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tarheel7734

tarheel7734

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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 4:52 pm

I can not remove it from the tray as it will desintegrate into dried ribons and dust.
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Kyle Weiss

Kyle Weiss

Location : Reno, NV
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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 4:54 pm

DrumsAndBeer wrote:
This process is like smoking brisket or pork shoulder. Low and slow is the key to yielding best results.

I like this delicious and apt metaphor. I love you

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Dave_In_Philly

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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 5:10 pm

D&B hit the nail on the head, I have used the method many times and it works each and every time. I use distilled water, but it's probably not absolutely necessary.

tarheel7734 wrote:
I can not remove it from the tray as it will desintegrate into dried ribons and dust.

Two things, first, have you ever smoked Penzance before? Its always going to be crumbly, you never get a sold flake out of a tin, at least I can't. So don't worry too much about preserving the flake.

Second, if you really think the tobacco is so dry that it will disintegrate if you touch it, then start with a container large enough to drop the whole tray in. Don't worry about it having a top at this point. Then cover the top the damp paper towel(s) and secure with rubber bands. Then, after the tobacco has rehydrated some, remove the flakes from the tray, and do the same thing until you get the moisture level you want.


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tarheel7734

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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 5:15 pm

Penzance was one of my staple tobaccos from 2005 to 2010. Back then I rubbed everything out. Once it is damp enough to remove from the container I will. I have some jars standing by.
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DrumsAndBeer

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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 5:30 pm

I am wondering if you could pop the whole tray into an air-tight plastic container with a Boveda pack? As you can safely sit those right on top of tobacco..
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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 5:58 pm

If I have to rehydrate baccy I use an empty baccy tin. put tobacco in dampen a paper towel, fold it a couple of times. lay over top of tin, force plastic lid on. check it the next day, repeat if necessary.
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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 8:31 pm

I've had this situation before. Just lay the whole tray in a large Tupperware (or similar) bowl/tray. I fill plastic baggies with wet p-towels, lying them in the bowl around the tobacco tray. Seal the top; let it sit for a day or two. Check at least once a day, adjusting moisture as necessary. The 'baccy will absorb moisture to the level of humidity inside the container. may take a few days, but it works...for me anyway Suspect FTRPLT
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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 9:40 pm

With all the good replies it sounds like you've got things covered.
I think I would notify the retailer and tell them what happened so
they can check there stock for bags with pinholes. I know I would hate
to get any of my baccy dried out like Bull Durham. Frustrated.. Dash116
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tarheel7734

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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 9:46 pm

Cartaphilus wrote:
With all the good replies it sounds like you've got things covered.
I think I would notify the retailer and tell them what happened so
they can check there stock for bags with pinholes. I know I would hate
to get any of my baccy dried out like Bull Durham. Frustrated.. Dash116

It was a seller on another forum.
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RDPipes

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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 10:29 pm

tarheel7734 wrote:
Cartaphilus wrote:
With all the good replies it sounds like you've got things covered.
I think I would notify the retailer and tell them what happened so
they can check there stock for bags with pinholes. I know I would hate
to get any of my baccy dried out like Bull Durham. Frustrated.. Dash116

It was a seller on another forum.

Ah Gees! I'd still tell'em with an emphasis on DRY! Frustrated.. Double23
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tarheel7734

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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 10:38 pm

Cartaphilus wrote:
tarheel7734 wrote:
Cartaphilus wrote:
With all the good replies it sounds like you've got things covered.
I think I would notify the retailer and tell them what happened so
they can check there stock for bags with pinholes. I know I would hate
to get any of my baccy dried out like Bull Durham. Frustrated.. Dash116

It was a seller on another forum.

Ah Gees! I'd still tell'em with an emphasis on DRY! Frustrated.. Double23

I did and he offered a refund, but I already opened it and can rehydrate.
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Simple Man

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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 10:39 pm

tarheel7734 wrote:
Cartaphilus wrote:
With all the good replies it sounds like you've got things covered.
I think I would notify the retailer and tell them what happened so
they can check there stock for bags with pinholes. I know I would hate
to get any of my baccy dried out like Bull Durham. Frustrated.. Dash116

It was a seller on another forum.

Man! I won't ask you the forum, but is it the same one you had trouble with one other time recently? You need to deal with guys on BoB, if we've had any trouble on here I am unaware of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 10:45 pm

Simple Man wrote:
tarheel7734 wrote:
Cartaphilus wrote:
With all the good replies it sounds like you've got things covered.
I think I would notify the retailer and tell them what happened so
they can check there stock for bags with pinholes. I know I would hate
to get any of my baccy dried out like Bull Durham. Frustrated.. Dash116

It was a seller on another forum.

Man! I won't ask you the forum, but is it the same one you had trouble with one other time recently? You need to deal with guys on BoB, if we've had any trouble on here I am unaware of it.

I dont think it was me that had an issue, but I do remember someone having a problem with bad tobacco that smelled moldy.
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Thomas Tkach

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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 11:19 pm

I'm a heathen, but sometimes if I've going to leave something jarred for a while, I just spritz or dirp some water on it then jar it. I guess this won't work for you since you can't remove form the tray, but the jar seals it and it eventually evens out. It works quickly if you leave it near a heat vent.
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Feazelle-n-it

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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyFri Dec 05, 2014 11:45 pm

It was me that had some dry out on its own because I didn't have it jared. Ive fixed that one with the paper towel on a business card.
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DrumsAndBeer

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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptySat Dec 06, 2014 5:26 pm

Don't feel too bad Jeremy, look what I am doing today... Mad

Frustrated.. Img_0310

I think someone at Germain needs a lesson on how to use the tinning machine, as well as a firm back-hand.
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Simple Man

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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptySat Dec 06, 2014 8:10 pm

tarheel7734 wrote:
Simple Man wrote:
tarheel7734 wrote:
Cartaphilus wrote:
With all the good replies it sounds like you've got things covered.
I think I would notify the retailer and tell them what happened so
they can check there stock for bags with pinholes. I know I would hate
to get any of my baccy dried out like Bull Durham. Frustrated.. Dash116

It was a seller on another forum.

Man! I won't ask you the forum, but is it the same one you had trouble with one other time recently? You need to deal with guys on BoB, if we've had any trouble on here I am unaware of it.

I dont think it was me that had an issue, but I do remember someone having a problem with bad tobacco that smelled moldy.

Oh, ok... my memory is not as good as it once was. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptySun Dec 07, 2014 3:38 am

I was just wondering; Penzance should make one awefully nice snuff?
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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptySun Dec 07, 2014 10:50 am

From G.L. Pease (http://www.glpease.com/FAQ.html) and I have found this to be the best method, works like a charm:

Q: What should I do about a tobacco that's too dry?

A: My method is to put the tobacco in a large, clean bowl, and cover the bowl with a damp towel. The towel should not touch the tobacco. Check the tobacco every couple hours, and when it reaches the moisture level you like, store it in an airtight container. Glass "bail top" jars work well, but be sure to clean them thoroughly. (See the next item on mold.)

Different tobaccos take up moisture at different rates. The denser leaf, like Virginias and some orientals, take up moisture very slowly. Spraying with water is dangerous, since it's difficult to control the overall moisture level of the tobacco. It's hard to evaluate the difference between damp leaf and soggy leaf. The method outlined above is pretty much foolproof.
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tarheel7734

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PostSubject: Re: Frustrated..   Frustrated.. EmptyWed Dec 10, 2014 12:14 am

Its been several days and it is going well. The baccy is sitting in my humidor in a ziplock rehydrating slowly. I have some jars that will be here in a couple days and it should be ready to jar. It smells amazing and I can't wait to try it again.
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