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PostSubject: Some things never Change   Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:02 pm

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
~Ben Franklin

“Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are.”
~Ben Franklin

                                                           
                                                           
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PostSubject: Re: Some things never Change   Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:06 pm

scotties22 wrote:
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
     ~Ben Franklin    

“Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are.”
     ~Ben Franklin

                                                           
                                                           

Quoted. For. Truth.
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PostSubject: Re: Some things never Change   Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:40 pm

Couldn't agree more Scottie...........what's happened now?
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PostSubject: Re: Some things never Change   Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:23 pm

Nothing I know of, Cart.....just cruising the web and ran across these and thought I would share. They seem to fit our social climate right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Some things never Change   Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:21 pm

scotties22 wrote:
Nothing I know of, Cart.....just cruising the web and ran across these and thought I would share.  They seem to fit our social climate right now.

Not only now but, sadly forever..........some people will never change. 5)
They were true then and still are.
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PostSubject: Re: Some things never Change   Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:01 am

Amen!!
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PostSubject: Re: Some things never Change   Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:18 pm

[quote="scotties22"]“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
     ~Ben Franklin    

   
I have also seen/read this one written this way: "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."

Both are absolutely true. After all, Patrick Henry did NOT say "Give me security or give me Death!!" FTRPLT
                                                           
                                           
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PostSubject: Re: Some things never Change   Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:25 pm

The one I posted is from his memoir, but I think it was one of his favorite sayings. I have seen it about a half dozen different ways that has been accredited to him. Ben sure was full of great ideas.
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PostSubject: Re: Some things never Change   Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:52 pm

scotties22 wrote:
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
     ~Ben Franklin    

“Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are.”
     ~Ben Franklin

                                                           
                                                           

Ooo! With that post, you're tagged in the NSA as a subversive! Enjoy the surveillance state! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Some things never Change   Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:03 pm

I have to say that back in the days of the old United STATES of America those were sentiments to live by. But sadly in the current United CORPORATION of Amurica we live in, they no longer are relevant Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Some things never Change   Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:06 pm

monbla256 wrote:
I have to say that back in the days of the old United STATES of America those were sentiments to live by. But sadly in the current United CORPORATION of Amurica we live in, they no longer are relevant  Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

Your no longer relevant! Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Some things never Change   Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:42 am

MisterE wrote:
scotties22 wrote:
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
     ~Ben Franklin    

“Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are.”
     ~Ben Franklin

                                                           
                                                           

Ooo! With that post, you're tagged in the NSA as a subversive! Enjoy the surveillance state! cheers

Nah, I'm not important enough to watch and am not self-involved enough to think I am. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Some things never Change   Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:40 pm

Oh hunny that's so cute, but its wrong! You'd be amazed at what will get you an FBI file. In fact I'm pretty sure you have one already. If you or your husband is military or ex military you have one. Anyone in your family has ever worked for a casino, you have one. If you have ever filed for certain licenses (i.e. ATF), you have one. This list is far from complete. You can file a freedom of information request and find out for sure but be prepared for lots of red tape.

BTW so right on the quotes. These are troubling times.

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