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PostSubject: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 6:53 am

Was over at the STG/Lane site and found this little short primer on pipe smoking and thought " .... how much of this runs counter to what our resident 'experts' here believe". Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Let's see some heated discussion now !!  Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil

https://stglanepipe.com/slp-101/
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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 10:58 am

Love to, but when I try I keep lapsing into a coma.
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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 11:40 am

The only thing I saw was the Cavendish explanation. Cavendish is a process not a casing. You don't need to add any flavors to Cavendish.
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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 12:37 pm

Heated discussion? Let's see some well reasoned, calm discourse instead. There's no necessity for all that much heat, thanks.

And calling for heat puts you in what I would think would be an unwanted position here...that of an instigator. It's close to trolling. 

Of course, we know you weren't really serious...just a figure of speech, etc., etc., etc.

Watching. Always watching.

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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 12:48 pm

Great site, always enjoy going there. I am not a "resident expert." That said, I read nothing outlandish in PS 101. Their method is roughly how I pack my pipe, although there are differences depending on the type (i.e., RR, flake, cubed, curlies, etc.). cheers FTRPLT
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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 12:54 pm

Blackhorse wrote:
And calling for heat puts you in what I would think would be an unwanted position here...that of an instigator. It's close to trolling. 

Yeah, take that, Mikey! There's a fine line here, and you better walk it. Reference my profile, under "humor."

[Big ol' winking eye.]
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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 1:18 pm

Now we can talk about the "Dick Cut" style of cigar cutting and that different way of loading yer pipe, where you sorta jam a wad in the top and then tear the loose stuff off. What's that called?

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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 1:34 pm

Blackhorse wrote:


Watching. Always watching.

Suspect

But who watches the watchers?


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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 1:38 pm

We watch each other.

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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 2:03 pm

Blackhorse wrote:
that different way of loading yer pipe, where you sorta jam a wad in the top and then tear the loose stuff off. What's that called?
Functional misapprehension. If you've already closed the tin/jar/pouch/bag/etc., it's overconfidence. An ensuing rationalization that you can use the loose stuff as tinder is making excuses.

Then there's also daring.
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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 2:14 pm

idbowman wrote:

But who watches the watchers?

Ceiling cat!

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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 2:26 pm

Blackhorse wrote:
We watch each other.

Meh - I just wanted an excuse to post a picture of a cute little kitty.

On topic, I did raise an eyebrow at STG's definition of "cavendish." Not altogether surprising considering Lane/STG blends lean towards cavendished tobacco that's been cased/topped pretty heavily, but it does seem to be a bit of misinformation.
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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 2:29 pm

idbowman wrote:
Blackhorse wrote:
We watch each other.

Meh - I just wanted an excuse to post a picture of a cute little kitty.

On topic, I did raise an eyebrow at STG's definition of "cavendish."  Not altogether surprising considering Lane/STG blends lean towards cavendished tobacco that's been cased/topped pretty heavily, but it does seem to be a bit of misinformation.

I noticed the same thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 4:02 pm

Blackhorse wrote:
Heated discussion? Let's see some well reasoned, calm discourse instead. There's no necessity for all that much heat, thanks.

And calling for heat puts you in what I would think would be an unwanted position here...that of an instigator. It's close to trolling. 

Of course, we know you weren't really serious...just a figure of speech, etc., etc., etc.

Watching. Always watching.

Suspect

I was / wasn't as it seems when discussions of method or "facts" about pipe smoking come up here it get's quite warm in tone Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Most of the items in this little primer were what was told me when I started smoking over 40 years ago!! This sort of thing just gives truth to "...one man's floor is another's ceiling"  Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 4:07 pm

Weird. Next time you notice a heated discussion let me know. I'd like to see what it looks like. I've seldom seen one. The other mods keep deleting them or whatever and then telling me, maybe when I grow up... Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 4:09 pm

I didn't see anything inflammatory in that article. Its a decent starting point to new smokers. Every article you read has a different take on things. I just gather the info and try it. If it works, great. If not, oh well.

NOW GET OFF MY YARD YOU PIPE SMOKING HIPPIES!!!

Sorry, just wanted to throw that out there. Hahahahahaha.
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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 4:12 pm

The FRANK METHOD! That's what it was called.

Do a google on it and watch one of the myriad movies out there. Really interesting. And it does work well.

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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 4:19 pm

Blackhorse wrote:
The FRANK METHOD! That's what it was called.

Do a google on it and watch one of the myriad movies out there. Really interesting. And it does work well.

When I first started smoking I was told ".... here's how you load your pipe" and shown this method. I never heard it given a name as such till I started getting on the interweb a few years ago and all of a sudden ".... here's how you load your pipe" is how Frank does it!! How does Bob do it? Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 4:28 pm

Not much to add but, 'press firmly' on the 3rd pack? That's never worked for me...
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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 4:28 pm

Bob stuffs, puffs, and passes. You were reefer-ing to Bob Marley right?
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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 4:33 pm

Feazelle-n-it wrote:
Bob stuffs, puffs, and passes. You were reefer-ing to Bob Marley right?

Why of coarse Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 4:36 pm

Feazelle-n-it wrote:
Bob stuffs, puffs, and passes. You were reefer-ing to Bob Marley right?

Bob was a fan of rollies.

Not a piper, AFAIK.

Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 4:52 pm

Same difference. He still stuffs, puffs, and passes.

My neighbor, who I've introduced to pipe smoking, is an old pot headed hippy. He named his daughter Marley, you guessed it. He likes the simplicity of the pipe and the relaxing nature of the hobby. He prefers the three pack method.
I try different styles and found things I like about each. So I pack according to the pipe and tobacco.
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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 7:16 pm

Most primers I've ever seen use the 1, 2, 3 method. Each third dribbled in then tamped, successively more and more firmly. 

The Frank thing, after using a pipe for close to forty years, was the first I'd ever seen suggesting one pinch. Briefly, the Frank Method is a method for packing tobacco into a smoking pipe initially developed by Achim Frank for use in pipe smoking competitions. The Frank method involves compacting the tobacco from the sides without compressing the top. This process leads to a firm layer of tobacco at the top of the pipe bowl with a looser layer beneath, without over-compressing the top layer. This firm top layer and looser bottom layer produce a long burn with fewer re-lights, suitable for competition smoking or general pipe smoking. Totally different than the 1, 2, 3 thing that is a top down approach, applying more successively greater pressure from the top.


Then there's the 'gravity feed' method like that used for cube cuts that dribble the tobacco in with no real downward pressure applied. 


So that's three distinct methods. All workable under different conditions.


I'm waiting for a continuous hopper fed system, like a pellet stove, so the thing just keeps going!  lol

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PostSubject: Re: Pipe Smoking 101   Pipe Smoking 101 EmptyWed Feb 25, 2015 7:29 pm

This is so complicated, video one of three doesn't even involve tobacco.  

It's like pipe tai-chi.

Pipe-Chi


Uno - Pipe-Chi




Dos - Le Methode




Tres - Proper Burner use

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