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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:09 pm

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How about a Ramsgate rant? I have an 8 oz. bag purchased recently that I detest. Two or three bowlfuls missing. Free, or almost. Send me five bucks for shipping, or even less. I just don't care. CONUS only. First PM, etc. I'll get back to you sometime this month.

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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:10 pm

Richard Burley wrote:
How about a Ramsgate rant? I have an 8 oz. bag purchased recently that I detest. Two or three bowlfuls missing. Free, or almost. Send me five bucks for shipping, or even less. I just don't care. CONUS only. First PM, etc. I'll get back to you sometime this month.

You find it that bad? I have an unopened bag.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:09 pm

C'mon guys.............

What, honestly, is the big deal about Penzance? Is there nothing even close?
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:33 pm

Ozark Wizard wrote:
C'mon guys.............

What, honestly, is the big deal about Penzance? Is there nothing even close?

It's an UNOBTAINIUM and one gets bragging points for acquiring it !! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:37 pm

monbla256 wrote:
Ozark Wizard wrote:
C'mon guys.............

What, honestly, is the big deal about Penzance? Is there nothing even close?

It's an UNOBTAINIUM and one gets bragging points for acquiring it !!  Twisted Evil Twisted Evil


Ya, like FVF was a little while ago....

Rolling Eyes


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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:15 pm

monbla256 wrote:
Ozark Wizard wrote:
C'mon guys.............

What, honestly, is the big deal about Penzance? Is there nothing even close?

It's an UNOBTAINIUM and one gets bragging points for acquiring it !!  Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

The blends supposed to be the closest would probably also be hard to obtain. I actually think a big part is probably the thrill of the chase. Because it's so hard to get I bet for a lot of people it's the achievement as much as the blend itself.

I bet there are others that really enjoy it and find it unparalleled in other blends. What would you do, Monbla, if McClelland VA were this scarce? I know you really like it, but would you pay Penzance prices for it? Would you smoke the forsaken Gawith VA concoctions?
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:19 pm

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Richard Burley wrote:
How about a Ramsgate rant? I have an 8 oz. bag purchased recently that I detest. Two or three bowlfuls missing. Free, or almost. Send me five bucks for shipping, or even less. I just don't care. CONUS only. First PM, etc. I'll get back to you sometime this month.

You find it that bad? I have an unopened bag.

It sounds right up my alley. I love McClelland 2035 which is dark-stoved as well as GH&CO BF Scented, which has a licorice, maple, tonquin topping. If I am the lucky winner of the PM contest I can shoot you a sample so you can try it before opening your bag.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:27 pm

For years, my go-to blend was Dunhill EMP. When it was discontinued, I was forced to find alternatives. I tried a lot of stuff I wouldn't have otherwise, and found some blends I ended up really liking. Change is not a bad thing IMHO.

On another note, I think a lot of these cherished blends get a lot better in death than they were in life. Not being able to get it anymore makes the heart grow fonder. Penzance is way overrated so far as Lat flakes go. FVF also isn't quite as amazing as the shortage led everyone to believe on the boards a few years back. IMO, naturally.

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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:39 pm

Anyone truly interested in the real scoop behind the JF Germain "unobtainum" phenomena should check out this week's Pipe Magazine Radio podcast interview with Premal Chheda of Smoker's Haven. All his house mixtures are blended by Germain, and even though they've upped production slightly each year, they are still unable to meet demand for their products and they refuse to cut corners in order to do so.

I now have a greater appreciation for Germain's craft and Premal seems like a really cool guy. If you appreciate your Esoterica's, I say get them when you can, savor them, and rest assured that nothing was spared in production, time nor labor.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:48 pm

MisterE wrote:


On another note, I think a lot of these cherished blends get a lot better in death than they were in life. Not being able to get it anymore makes the heart grow fonder. Penzance is way overrated so far as Lat flakes go. FVF also isn't quite as amazing as the shortage led everyone to believe on the boards a few years back. IMO, naturally.

I think THIS nails it Mister E, Twisted Evil Twisted Evil And as far as McC's 'baccy, I would NOT pay Germain's nor Gaweth's prices even for McC's baccy! JMO Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:14 pm

Good information D&B, thanks for passing it along.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:15 pm

monbla256 wrote:
MisterE wrote:


On another note, I think a lot of these cherished blends get a lot better in death than they were in life. Not being able to get it anymore makes the heart grow fonder. Penzance is way overrated so far as Lat flakes go. FVF also isn't quite as amazing as the shortage led everyone to believe on the boards a few years back. IMO, naturally.

I think THIS nails it Mister E, Twisted Evil Twisted Evil And as far as McC's 'baccy, I would NOT pay Germain's nor Gaweth's prices even for McC's baccy! JMO Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

I, too agree with it probably being better remembered in death/unavailability than it is when smoking it.

I was curious about what you've do without your beloved GInnyweed. What tobacco would you smoke if it were gone? BTW, SG boxes are nearly as cheap as bulk McClelland ($3.50/oz at SP).

DrumsAndBeer wrote:
Anyone truly interested in the real scoop behind the JF Germain "unobtainum" phenomena should check out this week's Pipe Magazine Radio podcast interview with Premal Chheda of Smoker's Haven. All his house mixtures are blended by Germain, and even though they've upped production slightly each year, they are still unable to meet demand for their products and they refuse to cut corners in order to do so.

I now have a greater appreciation for Germain's craft and Premal seems like a really cool guy. If you appreciate your Esoterica's, I say get them when you can, savor them, and rest assured that nothing was spared in production, time nor labor.

I've read from those in the know that Premal is one of the most important facilitators and enablers of the American pipe carving community.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:30 pm

DrumsAndBeer wrote:
Anyone truly interested in the real scoop behind the JF Germain "unobtainum" phenomena should check out this week's Pipe Magazine Radio podcast interview with Premal Chheda of Smoker's Haven. All his house mixtures are blended by Germain, and even though they've upped production slightly each year, they are still unable to meet demand for their products and they refuse to cut corners in order to do so.

I now have a greater appreciation for Germain's craft and Premal seems like a really cool guy. If you appreciate your Esoterica's, I say get them when you can, savor them, and rest assured that nothing was spared in production, time nor labor.


Pffffffffffffft, just do what do, grow an Esoterica Tobacco tree.....
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:58 pm

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Pffffffffffffft, just do what do, grow an Esoterica Tobacco tree.....

lol!
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:07 am

Guyrox wrote:
Richard Burley wrote:
How about a Ramsgate rant? I have an 8 oz. bag purchased recently that I detest. Two or three bowlfuls missing. Free, or almost. Send me five bucks for shipping, or even less. I just don't care. CONUS only. First PM, etc. I'll get back to you sometime this month.

You find it that bad? I have an unopened bag.

Yes, and I figured there was absolutely no way I would spend time trying to like it when I could be smoking something good. I almost tossed it. To me, it's Paladin Black Cherry bad.

The substance in question has been spoken for, by the way.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:12 am

That's a bold statement Mr. B. Paladin Black Cherry is probably the worst thing I ever put in a pipe. Horrible stuff, yet they still make it.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:16 am

Fatman wrote:
Pffffffffffffft, just do what do, grow an Esoterica Tobacco tree.....

I wish I had the soil condition for it. Only someone in command of reindeer and Keebler elves could possibly grow such a tree. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:37 am

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Fatman wrote:
Pffffffffffffft, just do what do, grow an Esoterica Tobacco tree.....

I wish I had the soil condition for it. Only someone in command of reindeer and Keebler elves could possibly grow such a tree. Wink  

Well, maybe if you behave Santa will drop off some Wink Although the Fatman, is not as fat these days...

This is last year, and I have lost 20 more pounds.

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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:39 am

Lookin' good there Santa!

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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:35 am

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Lookin' good there Santa!

santa

I'd say! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:24 am

Svelte Santa serenely showcases stunningly stylish seasonal suit. santa
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:03 am

Thomas Tkach wrote:
Guyrox wrote:
Richard Burley wrote:
How about a Ramsgate rant? I have an 8 oz. bag purchased recently that I detest. Two or three bowlfuls missing. Free, or almost. Send me five bucks for shipping, or even less. I just don't care. CONUS only. First PM, etc. I'll get back to you sometime this month.

You find it that bad? I have an unopened bag.

It sounds right up my alley. I love McClelland 2035 which is dark-stoved as well as GH&CO BF Scented, which has a licorice, maple, tonquin topping. If I am the lucky winner of the PM contest I can shoot you a sample so you can try it before opening your bag.

Tom, that is very generous of you. I accept with great pleasure, if it goes your way. Just send me a PM, mate.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:54 am

Fatman wrote:
DrumsAndBeer wrote:
Fatman wrote:
Pffffffffffffft, just do what do, grow an Esoterica Tobacco tree.....

I wish I had the soil condition for it. Only someone in command of reindeer and Keebler elves could possibly grow such a tree. Wink  

Well, maybe if you behave Santa will drop off some Wink Although the Fatman, is not as fat these days...

This is last year, and I have lost 20 more pounds.


False advertising!
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:29 pm

I did manage to get my hands on some. It was gifted upon me by a thoughtful brother.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF (penzance rant)   Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:34 pm

Santa time already????

What time is it?

Good Grief!

Never thought of growing a tree of tobacco. Maybe I just don't have the patience.....

As far as tasting Esoterica's blends, I suppose when the wind favours me it will become available. Till then, I'll happily take you(r) gentlemen's words as Gospel.......
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