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SpeedyPete



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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:52 am

Bugsahearn wrote:
Thanks guys I will keep an eye out for those brands especially comoy's, gbd and barling which arent always so expensive on ebay. What is it that makes dunhill and savinelli better than old grabows? I've read they used the same briar and just assumed it's all in the name no real difference in quality.

Savinelli comes from Italy and that makes the difference Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:33 pm

Can't find info on the pipe anywhere...imported briar is the same font as my greybauhs so it could be a Spartan pipe but I don't know of any brands with an L logo or uncaked bowls? Anyone ever seen this logo before
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:34 pm

Bugsahearn wrote:
Can't find info on the pipe anywhere...imported briar is the same font as my greybauhs so it could be a Spartan pipe but I don't know of any brands with an L logo or uncaked bowls? Anyone ever seen this logo before

Looks like one of hundreds of "Basket Pipes" many B&Ms sold which were made by many different makers. Without a place of manufacture stamped on it, your guess is as good as any who or where or when it as made. many of these were made by many of the British makers as well as Italian firms back in the day and still today. As far as the "L" in the circle your guess is as good as anyone's as to who it is  as it is not the circled L that Lane used on Charatan pipes back when they owned the firm.  If it looks good to you and is in your price range get it!! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil with all this "ping-ponging your doing from pipe to pipe your only adding to your confusion, If it were me I'd get FOCUSED on WHAT I want from WHICH maker and spend my time looking for THOSE only!! JMHO Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:49 pm


I already have that one monbla. It was under ten bucks so I picked it up. It's real nice and simple just like I like. I was just wondering if any of you codgers recognized the brand logo. I haven't tried it yet. One thing I have noticed is on slot of the pipes where I pull the stinger...is the hole is drilled not centered but on one side of the tenon. Is this purposeful for stingers or just a common misdrilling
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Bugsahearn wrote:
Can't find info on the pipe anywhere...imported briar is the same font as my greybauhs so it could be a Spartan pipe but I don't know of any brands with an L logo or uncaked bowls? Anyone ever seen this logo before

Looks like one of hundreds of "Basket Pipes" many B&Ms sold which were made by many different makers. Without a place of manufacture stamped on it, your guess is as good as any who or where or when it as made. many of these were made by many of the British makers as well as Italian firms back in the day and still today. As far as the "L" in the circle your guess is as good as anyone's as to who it is  as it is not the circled L that Lane used on Charatan pipes back when they owned the firm.  If it looks good to you and is in your price range get it!! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil with all this "ping-ponging your doing from pipe to pipe your only adding to your confusion, If it were me I'd get FOCUSED on WHAT I want from WHICH maker and spend my time looking for THOSE only!! JMHO Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:56 pm

My PAD had become so bad (mostly for cheap grabows) that I decided to only focus on being straight dark stain billiards. Hence the reason for starting this thread.
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Fri Aug 14, 2015 1:50 pm

What's your ideal bulldog mr burley?
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:43 am

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What's your ideal bulldog mr burley?

Something a bit larger than the standard 5.5", with the bowl not too squat nor too tall and cocked forward ever so slightly, diamond shank that tapers slightly, the standard two rings encircling the bowl, tapered bit only, smooth or damned good sandblast, but not black sandblast--and above all, everything flowing together into a sublime entity. Straight, not bent. I found one once that was killer; think it was an Ashton, but dithered until someone else snapped it up. I was a FOOL!  Wink

Added later: Kind of like this Ser Jacopo that Marty Pulvers has on his site, but I've never been keen on rustication:

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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:45 pm

A guy sent me this one unsolicited. This what you're referring to?

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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:33 pm

hey man yea that's certainly the type of pipe i've been searching out lately. There are pipes like this on ebay but they are actually few and far between especially quality and unsmoked. Ideally I prefer the darker stained but I would def add a pipe like that to my collection. Whats it called a hardwicke? Made for the smoke shop i suppose?
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:18 pm

Bugsahearn wrote:
hey man yea that's certainly the type of pipe i've been searching out lately. There are pipes like this on ebay but they are actually few and far between especially quality and unsmoked. Ideally I prefer the darker stained but I would def add a pipe like that to my collection. Whats it called a hardwicke? Made for the smoke shop i suppose?

I imagine so. Though who the maker for the shop is I couldn't say.
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:51 pm

I'm just now starting to appreciate the classic straight billiards, a little "late". Most of what i got are 1/2 to 3/4 bent. But my old Barling straight brandy is a real good smoker(too bad  it's got a replaced stem--broke or bit thru the original). & the little GBD st.  Dublin is terrific burning shaggy VAs...Bugs, have you checked out Paul's Pipes in Flint MI online? it looks as tho' they have some good "new old" unsmoked in stock. Just a thought...
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:02 pm

Richard Burley wrote:
I don't care what pipe people smoke; it's just that I hate seeing someone get turned off pipe smoking because of poor choices in wood or weed. And the only reason I care about that is that I don't particularly like being viewed as an ambulatory anomaly because I have a pipe sticking out of my mouth, or being pulled over by a cop because he thinks I'm freebasing as I fire up. The more the merrier, in other words. Whatever works for you--as long as it's working.
                                                                                  As  far as the Weed's concerned, a new piper can't go too far wrong with plain old PA, SWR or SWRA...or Sail or Troost if you can find 'em (IMO). Pipes, new pipes are trickier. It's not that you can't find something good under $50, BUT it is a crapshoot...mebbe better off with a MM general, but briar, if I was starting all over again I'd save up & buy a Pete's for around $100...only not one w/ a P-lip. excuse me , i'm off-topic here, i'm thinking about the new "converts"
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:06 pm

$240 for a plain Jane run of the mill looking Savinelli?
You'd think it was a vintage over priced Dunhill or something
and I can see that that's what there trying to do with the DOT.
Judas Priest do I need to raise my prices. 5)
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:30 am

Thanks Bill that is a cool site with some nice choices. I will bookmark that one for sure. Cart do you mean raise your prices on the pipes you make? That billiard I posted looking to identify is a cool pipe. It has the grabow font for imported briar but just a circled L on the stem and it's not pre-smoked" as the grabows are. It has a larger lip than any grab I've seen which is nice and the bowl is quite large. I haven't broken it in yet so it's got that unbroken taste but the draw is strong (yanked stinger), it feels right in my hand is real easy to clench with the larger lip. I like this mystery pipe.
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:30 am

Bla mon you will dig this...scored a new Savinelli Punto Oro for under 100 bucks. It's sandblasted but that nice dark brown and i like
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:07 am

Bugs, can't say as I know much about this pipe, or anything at all in actuality but it certainly hits all your targets with shape, size and price range.

http://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/rossi/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=183911

Aint a collectors piece and is never likely to be but it is a fine looking pipe and for the price, well, couldn't hurt to get one in and see what is what eh. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:28 am

Bugsahearn wrote:
Bla mon you will dig this...scored a new Savinelli Punto Oro for under 100 bucks. It's sandblasted but that nice dark brown and i like

It's Monbla and you definitely CANNOT go wrong with a Blasted Punto Oro!! It's the second top level of their standard shapes, just below the Guibleo 'd' Oro series. and ANY of these are BETTER than current "White Spot" , what used to be Dunhill, pipes being made today!! JMHO as I have 10 Puntos, all blasted !! Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:45 am

Can anyone tell me what happen to my servile punto or stem? I ruined it without ever getting to smoke it. I decided to rub it down with water and the whole thing turned green right away. it smells bad too. It was supposed to be lucite. well that sucks.

If it's actually vulcanite how could it oxidize immediately when water touches it? I don;t get it
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:29 am

Was it hot water? The Wikipedia article on ebonite suggests that turning green was to be expected.

I've passed up many an interesting pipe because my bite's enough to leave tooth marks in acrylic. Vulcanite would be a disaster on that score alone. Living in the coastal zone without air conditioning completes the double whammy.
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Fri Sep 25, 2015 4:28 am

hey sloth, thanks! it was room temp. It has to be vulcanite..I was really confused at first because it was sold as a lucite stem. I guess this happens some times with new savinelli stems. I tried brebbia polish and it still has the sulfur smell...so should I scrub it with a magic eraser? Is this supposed to be done with a the eraser dry or wet? Is there a way to do it without scrubbing off the gold dot?
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:41 am

Dunno, dunno, and dunno. I have to defer, here, to those who actually do this kind of restoration.
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:32 am

Bugsahearn wrote:
Can anyone tell me what happen to my servile punto or stem? I ruined it without ever getting to smoke it. I decided to rub it down with water and the whole thing turned green right away. it smells bad too. It was supposed to be lucite. well that sucks.

If it's actually vulcanite how could it oxidize immediately when water touches it? I don;t get it

First off I'm guessing that ".... servile punto or stem... " translates to Savinelli Punto Oro stem? ALL the Punto Oro's that I have come with Vulcanite/Ebonite ( same thing, basically hard rubber) only the Guibleo 'd Oro series had two stems, one of which was acrylic, the other was hard rubber. The bit can be brought back and the sulphur taste can go away after it has been restored. Several of the brothers will probably chime in with methods, me I just send the pipe to someone like Walker Briar Works and let them do their magic on it. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:55 am

Bugsahearn wrote:
hey sloth, thanks! it was room temp. It has to be vulcanite..I was really confused at first because it was sold as a lucite stem. I guess this happens some times with new savinelli stems. I tried brebbia polish and it still has the sulfur smell...so should I scrub it with a magic eraser? Is this supposed to be done with a the eraser dry or wet? Is there a way to do it without scrubbing off the gold dot?

The "gold dot" is a piece of inlayed brass and can't be scrubbed off
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Fri Sep 25, 2015 4:55 pm

I scrubbed it with a magic eraser until the brown color stopped coming off. but i still can't get rid of the sulphur smell...any one know how to get rid of the smell?
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PostSubject: Re: Standard   Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:33 pm

Bugsahearn wrote:
I scrubbed it with a magic eraser until the brown color stopped coming off. but i still can't get rid of the sulphur smell...any one know how to get rid of the smell?

Bugs, you can soak it an OxyClean and water mix, but afterwards the finish will be a little rough, and need to be polished back to a shine. If you don't have micromesh pads, it could take you quite a while to get it back to a like new premium shine.
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