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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:18 am

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Via what? There wasn't much description there about it.
True, that's why I'm intrigued and not excited. I know just enough to wonder endlessly.
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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:29 am

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Blackhorse wrote:
Via what? There wasn't much description there about it.
True, that's why I'm intrigued and not excited. I know just enough to wonder endlessly.

It's a flake tobacco from a Mississippi tobacconist, it's named after William Faulkner. Would a Mississippi tobacconist name a flake tobacco after their famous local author if it was bad??? What a Face Wink
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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:31 am

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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:35 am

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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:36 am

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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:40 am

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lol!

Just review some aromatics for us... we're waiting on pins and needles! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:42 am

I've been doing that right along. Got four up here already. Plan on another one or two today. Jeesh! Any special requests?

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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:17 pm

And today...drum roll...we have another blend from Milan up for review...

Doctor's Orders! Described by Milan as "...a great all day smoke comprised of golden Virginias, Burleys, and toasted Cavendish. Offering delicate subtleties of white chocolate and sweet cream, a mild to moderate sweetness on the finish, and pleasant room note..."

The single review on the review site says: Very good smoke all around. Very mild and pleasant with an excellent finish. Makes you want to smell your mustache all day! This one will be on my favorites list from now on!

My comment? Comes slightly moist. Packs and lights and burns down the bowl with ease. Very mild aroma in the bag. Very mild flavors on lighting. White chocolate and cream? Could be. I did get that very slightly later in the bowl but not so much early on. First half light creamy tobacco. Second half more white chocolate by a smidge. All in all a mild smoke...no warts on this toad though, very nice and pleasant from start to finish. Flavors present all through the smoke with tobacco notes more as it goes on. I could get to really like these Milan blends. Think I'll try another!

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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:13 pm

And here we are right before lunch with an Evening Stroll by Milan.

From the folks at Milan..."a mixture of light and dark Virginia and Green River tobaccos topped with a subtle vanilla flavor."

Comments from the review site:

"This is a wonderful weed all around. The pouch opening is a wonderful experience. Just a wonderful mild aroma of a light sweet chocolate. Slightly damp, so a little drying may be in order. This is a ribbon cut with brown, yellow and black specks of tobacco. I did not dry it out due to the fact I just simply could not wait to taste it. Although I did have trouble keeping it lit...I really enjoyed the taste and bouquet on the end of the nasal exhale. You Get a firm tobacco flavor infusion that is clean and peppery, kind of like the way horseradish reacts. You get a blast and a quick dissipation. All the time a mild chocolaty flavor is in the taste and aroma. I used a Peterson Kildare 999 and despite the many relights the bowl stayed cool. I do get a little peppery tongue taste which I suspect a bit of drying would cure. Produces a good dense white smoke with very pleasant aroma."

"A very pleasant scent and flavor, and the smell from the pouch is so intoxicating it makes you want to carry it around in your front pocket so you can sniff it all day. The tobacco produces a nice, thick smoke that leaves a pleasant room note. I quite enjoy this smoke and highly recommend it to anyone who likes aromatic blends."

My thoughts? Slightly stronger flavors and overall presence than the Doctor's blend. This might be a difference in the casing or the VA to Burley difference.  I'm getting a little feeling for these Aros now and realizing there is a big ol' red line right down the middle of the bowl. A first half vs second half experience. So far the first half has been about the burning of the cased offerings...then these kind of cook off leaving the tobacco experience...if it's there. And these Milan blends have it in spades. In some blends a flavor will last down the bowl til the end. The Milan blends have done that as well, an added dimension, and one I appreciate. I do get a mild cocoa flavor with this one...against the Burley it's very nice. Also, this one provides those thick billows of smoke most of us find enjoyable. And ultimately the end game here is quite a bit stronger re the base tobacco flavors.

Given that I'm only smoking each blend once, in one pipe, it's unfair to judge them against each other overall. There will be significant differences derived from this or that bowl shape, Brian vs cob, etc. All three have been excellent in their own slightly different ways.

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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:30 pm

On a roll baby! Another one from Milan. This one is another popular blend in their lineup...Wallstreet.

Milan sez..."A mild Burley blend with a mixture of Virginias and aged maduro Cavendish. Subtle notes of chocolate covered hazelnuts and a hint of creme make for a sweet finish."

Comments from the review site...

"An outstanding, distinct and hauntingly "familiar" aromatic blend! Burns cool with tons of dense, smooth smoke, down to a fine white ash. High quality tobaccos throughout. Not at all overly sweet or heavy, and will not goop your pipe. The tasty chocolate hazelnut and delicate buttercreme casings combine to make a sort of nougat flavor and aroma that is both unique and delectable. Even more amusing, the tiniest dash of cigar leaf in the mix brings me back to the smell of bank lobbies and high end office buildings of the 1950's where the fragrance of various aromatic pipe tobaccos once mixed freely with the occasional cigar, and created a most memorable, harmonious, and entirely random bouquet. This bouquet. This blend is quite aptly dubbed "Wall Street". Highly recommended."

"Hauntingly familiar indeed! The taste of Wall Street vaguely rings a bell in my mind but the actual memory is just too hazy. What is clear is that this is an absolutely enjoyable smoke, particularly the slight cigarish taste and aroma mixed into the hazelnut cream... how unique it is. And I don't even care so much for the taste of cigars, but it just works really well here. Will definitely be getting ahold of more, Wall Street is well on it's way to becoming my favorite aromatic. Very highly recommended."

For me the great benefit here is that the base tobacco flavors are not totally masked but enhanced by the added aromatics...in this case what I notice most is the dark chocolate hints against the cigar leaf. A complaint from non-aro smokers is typically that cheap casings are covering up the real tobacco flavors. Hmmm. Well, given that ALL tobacco is treated with flavoring agents at one or more times in their processing it really depends on how good the aromatic agents are and how good the base tobacco are. Here, as with the other Milan blends I've been trying, the quality of both is extreme. The tobaccos used seem top tier and the flavorings and scents are applied with a restrained and knowing hand. The results are blends that anyone would enjoy, given the opportunity. This smokes pretty cool and very dry...good. I continue to pick up those Cigar notes all the way down the bowl...good. There is no bite...good. The room note, as much as anyone on the business of the pipe can tell, is excellent...good. Hey! It's all good.

A further general comment: This little experience is opening my eyes to a class of pipe blends I admit that I snubbed before. It's turning out that the world of quality aromatic blends holds rewards, uniqueness and subtleties equivalent to any other genre if approached with a willing and thoughtful attitude. The operative term there is 'quality'. In the above case, Milan blends have that in spades.

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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:06 pm

Wall Street sounds excellent. I'll be adding some to my cart next time I order from Milan.
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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:10 am

I enjoy reading your impressions Blackhorse, and as a result I've added a couple of blends to my must buy and try list. I don't smoke many aros but I can see where that might change.

Keep up the good work sir!

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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:20 am

Oh my! Now don't take my word as truth...its just opinion. Like I tell everyone...find a couple of guys whose opinions match yours on the review site then track them. It works for me. Drums & Beer is one of my barometers. We like the same things.

Also...I got to thinking last night and decided to create a seperate thread eventually that would stay once 'this' one is gone. I'll cut just the specific blend descriptions and reactions into a series of posts for others to refer to if they want to. So each p poo st will be re a different blend.

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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:29 am

Absolutely agree regarding reviews, there are a few Brothers here who's tastes track closely to mine so their impressions carry more weight with me. That said, sometimes you just gotta take a risk, but I usually hedge my bet by doing my research first.

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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:08 pm

Up today we have one I've been eager to try for some time...

Peretti Ebony...a blend of Burley Plug and Black VA.

Cogent Comments:

For me it's an all day smoke. It's full of flavor, producing a rich velvety smoke, almost like chocolate, but in the "maduro wrapper of a cigar" type chocolate, not aromatic or flavored tobacco. It burnes extremely well, never bites, and has an excellent aroma.

This tobacco has a delicious and sweet chocolaty flavor, but the flavor of the tobacco is also ALL there, and is the reason this aromatic excels where others don't. The Black Virginia in this blend adds a lot of natural sweetness that kicks in half way through the bowl and ends up making the second-half of the bowl equal or better than the first half. Which I cannot say for any other aromatic I have smoked. Ebony is a unique aromatic that has none of the drawbacks that most aromatics have. Burns dry and cool, and never bites.

For me this was a very different aromatic experience. Some Aros are like getting hit in the back of the head with a two by four...crazy strong casing. Danger Will Robinson! Others are very subtle and mild, their flavors barely noticeable. This is in the middle somewhere. Nice level. One of the many cocoa/caramel/vanilla things...nicely done. Room note is killer. What puts this one in a tier above others is it starts out with a velvety mouth feel...and the feel and aroma do not change all the way to the bottom of the bowl. No first half / second half thing re a giant profile shift. It screams quality with every puff. A very fine smoke.

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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:55 pm

Just got my second, expanded box from Peretti. They are certainly an interesting company, producing really interesting blends. There are a number of B&M based blender's out there...walk into ,90% of 'em and you'll find Lane and McClelland and Cornell & Diehl retagged. Nothing wrong with that really, good products pretty much across the board. But there are a few places...Park Lane...Pipeworks & Wilke...Boswell...Milan...to name a few, that blend using the talent and vision of one person. I don't know about Peretti's. I mean, if it's one guy or several. But what they have there (and some of the recipes go WAY back...the Peretti Co. in Boston has been operating for 145 years!) now, for want of a better term, are SERIOUS blends. What Peretti doesn't know about Burley could fit on the head of a pin. The guys are masters of their craft. And while the aromatics are really noteworthy, for me it's their American blends that blow me away. American? You know...Edgeworth. Burley and VA with condimental additions of this-n-that. Deep, usually strong, rich, kick ass blends. Rightly I should exclude these from this thing, but they are so exceptional that I'm tossing the ones I have in here, with a notation as to the difference. Just a warning.

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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:33 am

Peretti 333 Burley

This is Peretti's most reviewed blend. Pure cube cut Burley. Straight as an arrow. Some claim hints of this n that but I can't detect anything other than the classic flavors Burley is treated with during standard processing... molasses, cocoa, vanilla...very background. Not a topping...same flavor all the way to the end. To me, this is the quintessential American Burley blend. Gravity feed it to your favorite, a light tamp and it burns slowly and fairly cool...no bite. You have to like Burley to like this. I do, and I do. Liken it to a really good version of Carter Hall. The quality is very high as with all Peretti blends. As far as straight cubed Burley goes, others might be as good as, but never any better. Edgeworth is this ones poor cousin.

What do other guys think:

Jimlnks: The nice thing about this cube cut burley is that the cubes don't pop out of the bowl and burn holes in your shirt, carpet, or dog. It burns slow, cool, and very well with no harshness or bite. Leaves virtually no moisture in the bowl. Nutty with a molasses taste that very much reminds me of Carter Hall without the PG. There's a cocoa note or two along the way as well. There is a hint of floral, spice and vanilla which leads me to believe there's a very small amount of deer tongue present. If you enjoy good burley blends, you'll find it to be a good all day smoke.

Briar Law: This is a wonderful Burley from another era. I mean dancing the swing, war bonds, radio shows, etc. True Americana. Dark brown, lightly moist smallish cubes with a fair amount of even smaller granulated tobacco. Naturally sweet almost fermented pouch aroma. Really great. Just scoop it in the bowl, barely tamp, and give it a light. I can almost hear The Glen Miller Band in the background. Plain good old fashioned Burley in the finest tradition. No bitterness at all. Burns clean and very dry all the way down the bowl. A top flight tobacco from a time long ago . . . when going to the drugstore meant having a chocolate malted at the counter. Do try it if you are a Burley fan or just want to take a trip in a time capsule.

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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:35 pm

Whee! Just got two packets in. One a donation...more on that tomorrow. The other a box from The Country Squire. Boy Howdy! I'll bet their shop smells good. Three arrived, Cherokee (Virginias and Steamed Cavendish), Parson's Blend (Fruit and Burley) and Rivendell (Nutty, Woodsy, Cocoa). The Person's smells like nothing I've ever tried before...very bright and fruity...really succulent and inviting. The other two smell like other more standard concoctions but with something extra or different taking them a step or perhaps a leap beyond. I'm hoping to try a couple of these tomorrow. I'm the most curious about the Parson and the Cherokee. Stay tuned.

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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:08 pm

This morning's offering...

The Country Squire's "The Parson's Blend" in my MM General cob with the 5" forever stem/bit/thing. Whatever.

First - great aroma. Cocoa-nilla fruity something W the fruity thing WAY in the back. It packs, lights burns very easily taking off with one good touch from my Pearl Eddie.

After lighting and settling a bit I am getting the best flavors of any aromatic I've ever smoked. Smooth and creamy light cocoa mocha vanilla with a subtle enhancement of something slightly fruity lurking. Totally free of any chemical taint of metallic tinge. The smoke through the bit is delicious. The smoke off the bowl is delicious.

Hmmm. I just remembered...I'm pairing this with a tall cup of fine Kenya, black. That might be where the Mocha thing came in.

Anyway, very cool...no bite. Steady puffing doesn't seem to bother it.

All in all, long story short...a real winner. Gold medal trial on this one. If this is any indication of the quality of The Country Squire house blends...they just found a new customer for life!

So what else is written on the review site -

The two best qualities associated with Parson's blend, excluding it's fruity taste, is its delightful aroma and the voluminous amount of smoke this blend produces. As the description notes, this blend was created to be smoked in the house at the approval of the wife or girlfriend. If your significant other is hesitant about your pipe smoking, then this may just be the blend to win them over. A soft but flavorful fruitiness makes this blend a great after dinner smoke. While fruit and spices are the main attractions of Parson's Blend, it's flavoring does not detract from the natural tobacco taste. I no point felt I was smoking a "syrupy" aromatic.


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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:23 pm

An after- lunch bowl -

The Country Squire "Cherokee" in my full bent Alpha Freehand Briar.

Others comments:

The smoke is mellow without being tasteless. There is no tongue bite to be experienced and this tobacco is a good break if you find tongue bite has developed from other tobaccos. It does not smoke hot and so, if your pipe can survive it, can be smoked throughout the day. The mix of Virginia and cavendish seems, rather than giving the hint of vanilla, to impart a nutty note to the tobacco. This is the highlight in a taste that is otherwise a straight tobacco taste.

When I was younger...much younger I would regularly stop by your old downtown shop and purchase a pound of Cherokee for my father. I loved the smell of it then and finally a few years ago I tried it after I found an old deerskin pouch of my fathers"s. Immediately I liked it. This is a natural tasting tobacco with a faint hint of a nuttiness. The tobaccos seemed to mix into a natural sweetness that provides a slight vanilla overtone and absolutely no bite. From start to finish this is a mellow tobacco that quickly became my favorite. With a room note like this it is wonderfully unforgettable. I have been buying it for years and don't plan on stopping anytime soon. It is my "special" everyday tobacco.

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Per the above, I like a blend that others have named as their favorite down through generations. To me that says a lot. I don't get any flavors here. Other guys mentioned vanilla and a nutty character. OK. But not me. I get a very mild straightforward tobacco flavor, mostly VA blend. Someone looking for that would really like this. Again, a very friendly, easy to work with blend. I don't see this as an aromatic as there are no noticeable cased aromas. It's steamed Cavendish and VA. The Cavendish might be sweetened, but maybe not. But there's nothing at all wrong with a mild, smooth VA blend. Forgiving. But hey, these are one bowl reactions. A more in depth view might bring more subtleties to light. That, and every blend should be at least tried in a cob. Good stuff for sure..

Edit: You know, on toward the halfway point and into the end game I kept getting different flavor notes... Red...light cocoa cream...bready...and yes, nutty...really moving around, off the bowl. I'm thinking there might be significant depth and subtleties here my Briar just is barely picking up. More work on this one is needed for sure.

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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:26 pm

Parson's Blend. I'll have to put that one on the list.

The Old Toby looks pretty good too. Sweetened VaPerBur..
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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:54 pm

I'm so glad you found the Parson's Blend to be to your liking, Blackhorse. I'm very timid about recommending tobacco blends to you guys who've had WAY more experience with quality tobacco than I have.
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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:57 pm

SMan - Parson's is precisely what I was hoping to find in doing this.

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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:11 pm

Dan Tobacco's Milonga.

Best aro out there, period.  High quality VA's with just the right amount of Vanilla & Caramel. Monbla Approved!   Cool

I'm currently out, but if you PM me your addy - i'll order a tin and have it sent to you, Commander.
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PostSubject: Re: The Great Best of the Best of the Best Aromatic Project   Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:18 pm

Generally, it has moderate rather than super reviews...and monbla's approval means little to me. But if YOU recommend it, I'll give it a try.

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