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PostSubject: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:01 pm

Bacon, ham and sausages rank alongside cigarettes as a major cause of cancer, the World Health Organisation has said, placing cured and processed meats in the same category as asbestos, alcohol, arsenic and tobacco.

The report from the WHO’s cancer arm, the International Agency for Research on Cancer, said there is enough evidence to rank processed meats as group 1 carcinogens, because of a causal link with bowel cancer.

It places red meat in group 2A, as “probably carcinogenic to humans”. Eating red meat is also linked to pancreatic and prostate cancer, the IARC says.

Related: What’s so bad about ‘processed food’?

The IARC’s experts concluded that each 50 gram portion of processed meat eaten daily increased the risk of colorectal cancer by 18%.

“For an individual, the risk of developing colorectal cancer because of their consumption of processed meat remains small, but this risk increases with the amount of meat consumed,” said Dr Kurt Straif, head of the IARC monographs programme. “In view of the large number of people who consume processed meat, the global impact on cancer incidence is of public health importance.”

The decision from the IARC, after a year of deliberations by international scientists, will be welcomed by cancer researchers but it triggered an immediate and furious response from the industry, and the scientists it funds, who rejected any comparison between cigarettes and meat.

“What we do know is that avoiding red meat in the diet is not a protective strategy against cancer,” said Robert Pickard, a member of the Meat Advisory Panel and emeritus professor of neurobiology at the University of Cardiff. “The top priorities for cancer prevention remain smoking cessation, maintenance of normal body weight and avoidance of high alcohol intakes.”.

But the writing has been on the wall for ham, bacon and sausages for several years. The World Cancer Research Fund has long been advising people that processed meat is a cancer hazard. It advises eating products such as ham, bacon and salami as little as possible and having no more than 500g a week of red meat, including beef, pork and lamb.

Prof Tim Key, Cancer Research UK’s epidemiologist at the University of Oxford, said: “Cancer Research UK supports IARC’s decision that there’s strong enough evidence to classify processed meat as a cause of cancer, and red meat as a probable cause of cancer.

Related: Are sausages bad for you?

“We’ve known for some time about the probable link between red and processed meat and bowel cancer, which is backed by substantial evidence.

“This decision doesn’t mean you need to stop eating any red and processed meat. But if you eat lots of it you may want to think about cutting down. You could try having fish for your dinner rather than sausages, or choosing to have a bean salad for lunch over a BLT.”

The statement from the IARC, published as an article in the journal Lancet Oncology, substantially toughens the line, especially against processed meat. But while cancer scientists are concerned about the risks of eating too much meat, some nutritionists maintain that the extra risk is relatively small and that meat has other benefits.

Dr Elizabeth Lund – an independent consultant in nutritional and gastrointestinal health and a former research leader at the Institute of Food Research, who acknowledges she did some work for the meat industry in 2010 – said red meat was linked to about three extra cases of bowel cancer per 100,000 adults in developed countries.

“A much bigger risk factor is obesity and lack of exercise,” she said. “Overall, I feel that eating meat once a day combined with plenty of fruit, vegetables and cereal fibre, plus exercise and weight control, will allow for a low risk of colorectal cancer and a more balanced diet.”

Prof Ian Johnson, emeritus fellow at the Institute of Food Research, also said the effect was small. “It is certainly very inappropriate to suggest that any adverse effect of bacon and sausages on the risk of bowel cancer is comparable to the dangers of tobacco smoke, which is loaded with known chemical carcinogens and increases the risk of lung cancer in cigarette smokers by around twentyfold.”

The North American Meat Institute said defining red meat as a cancer hazard defied common sense.

“It was clear, sitting in the IARC meeting, that many of the panellists were aiming for a specific result despite old, weak, inconsistent, self-reported intake data,” said Betsy Booren, the institute’s vice-president of scientific affairs. “They tortured the data to ensure a specific outcome.

“Red and processed meat are among 940 agents reviewed by the IARC and found to pose some level of theoretical ‘hazard’. Only one substance, a chemical in yoga pants, has been declared by the IARC not to cause cancer.

“The IARC says you can enjoy your yoga class, but don’t breathe air (class 1 carcinogen), sit near a sun-filled window (class 1), apply aloe vera (class 2B) if you get a sunburn, drink wine or coffee (class 1 and class 2B), or eat grilled food (class 2A). And if you are a hairdresser or do shift work (both class 2A), you should seek a new career.”


http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/processed-meats-rank-alongside-smoking-as-cancer-causes-who/ar-BBmriff?li=BBgzzfc&ocid=U146DHP
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:17 pm

I'll literally take that with a pinch off Salt.
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:35 pm

allyby, if this information can be scientifically proven, I am anxious to see what the insurance companies do with this information. Clearly, tobacco users have been singled out for decades, and my guess is that there will be a double standard here.
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:42 pm

That's completely stupid. According to scientists everything causes cancer. I'm sure if you look hard enough there is a scientist out there that has "proved" that breathing air causes cancer, because everyone who gets cancer breaths air. These people need to find better things to waste money on.
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:03 pm

My wife's a dietitian. Processed meats are something that the health trusts that she works for have been very concerned about for a while now. Their findings would have been drawn from extensive research and evidence. Heed what you will and make your choice!
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:38 pm

I dunno...WHO says that?   Wink
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:45 pm

Dutch wrote:
Clearly, tobacco users have been singled out for decades, and my guess is that there will be a double standard here.

That means only vegetarians and vegans will get discounts on their insurance - in the very near future.
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:03 pm

Rob_In_MO wrote:
Dutch wrote:
Clearly, tobacco users have been singled out for decades, and my guess is that there will be a double standard here.

That means only vegetarians and vegans will get discounts on their insurance - in the very near future.


Eeeeyup. Only foods sanctioned by the FDA and their Master, Monsanto......

Weren't doughnuts bad for you? Or was it unprotected sex? I forget..................

(Either way, they're both sweet...........)

Any hoo, Guess I'm doubling my risk on occasion at restaurants, especially pizza joints, eh?
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:10 pm

Life has risks, and sometimes I choose to live risky just because I can. Sometimes, I like to drive without my seat belt, sometimes, I prefer to ride motorcycles helmet-less, I smoke a pipe, I drink a lot of coffee, I like steaks rare, I've been known to stand to close to the ledge at canyons... guess I'm just a rebel at heart. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:43 pm

"Unfortunatly for the power hungry  republicans Correlation does not equal causation.." -CNN.

Unfortunatly for the power hungry  democrats Correlation does not equal causation.."   -Fox

"I got cancer from second-hand red meat" -Plantiff in the upcoming Class Action.

"We must ban cows!!"  The anti-people party.

"Cows don't cause cancer, people eating cows cause cancer" -People for the ethical treatment of anymals.

"All we are saying.. Is give beef a chance" -hippie college students craving nachos.  

"We must, for national security, attack these farmers who are producing WMD's right here in America.  Home grown terrorist are our number 1 threat to national security today.." -The other anti-people party.

"Double cheese, extra pickles.. Add in a super sized fries and a Diet Coke please". -Murica
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:15 pm

If I drop bacon and sausages from my diet, can I smoke my pipes more? I think I'm more likely to die from my wife pushing me under a bus.... affraid bounce Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:23 pm

ontariopiper wrote:
If I drop bacon and sausages from my diet, can I smoke my pipes more? I think I'm more likely to die from my wife pushing me under a bus.... affraid bounce Laughing Laughing

Bacon and sausages or a pipe... that's a decision I hope I never have to make. Laughing

But coffee IS NOT an option! Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:26 pm

I think I'm closer to dead than alive according to those studies. pale

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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:31 pm

Ozark Wizard wrote:
Weren't doughnuts bad for you?  Or was it unprotected sex? I forget..................

Just put a prophylactic on your next stick of pepperoni and you'll be fine. Razz

Seriously though are we talking Oscar Mayer or Boar's Head here?

When it comes to bacon, I usually opt for a nitrate/nitrite free brand. I would think that eliminating these would go a long way towards removing a bulk of the health risks with cured meat.

Everything in moderation now...
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:50 pm

Did anyone ever see that old movie 'Demolition Man' with Sylvester Stallone and Sandra Bullock? Remember that horrible, sanitized society where "if it's bad for you, it's illegal"? Well, I think we have finally arrived. Mad
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:09 pm

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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:56 am

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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:20 pm

Fr_Tom wrote:
There is always the quality of life argument...

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/it-wasnt-worth-it-says-103-year-old-vegetarian-20151027103301

Here Here! We weren't meant to live forever, so I'd rather live happy.
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:27 pm

Dutch wrote:

Perfect, Dutch! I love it. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:43 pm

Sooner or later we're gonna die of something.

WHO is a bunch of alarmists, tin foil hat wearing extremists. I fart in their general direction.

(and this coming from a vegetarian.)

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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:45 pm

Well spoken Brew. Well spoken.
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PostSubject: Re: WHO Says Processed Meats as Bad as Smoking   Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:37 pm

I did happen to prepare fish for dinner last night. I love you But I made up for it this afternoon by eating some seriously greasy beef with fries tacos for lunch today. cheers

Ok, I'm dying...

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PostSubject: After alcohol came weed...   Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:34 pm

Gangsters smuggled alcohol, then alcohol came back legally, then they smuggled drugs until some drugs, just now, are getting legalized again... Now Salami?!?!
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