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PostSubject: Royal Irish with 9mm filter? Anyone heard of that?    Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:29 pm

So I'm looking at buying a Peterson Royal Irish on the ol' ebay, but apparently it's a 9mm filter with an "amber" acrylic stem. I've never heard of a Royal Irish with a filter (or any stem other than black acrylic/ebonite) and I want to make sure this isn't a knockoff or some such nonsense.

Has anyone heard of something like that? It is an estate and I don't know how old it is, but I'm not aware of any older Royal Irish lines that have these features.

Also, it's not a Rosslare Royal Irish. The amber stem is much more brownish—looks a hell of a lot like the Grafton stems to my eye—nothing like the bright orange-gold "amber" acrylic of the Rosslares.
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Irish with 9mm filter? Anyone heard of that?    Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:27 pm

Looks OK to me, if we're talking about the same pipe. Cumberland stem, I'd say. That's a higher-grade Pete, and the filter is kind of a European market thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Irish with 9mm filter? Anyone heard of that?    Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:28 pm

ajpl wrote:
So I'm looking at buying a Peterson Royal Irish on the ol' ebay, but apparently it's a 9mm filter with an "amber" acrylic stem. I've never heard of a Royal Irish with a filter (or any stem other than black acrylic/ebonite) and I want to make sure this isn't a knockoff or some such nonsense.

Has anyone heard of something like that? It is an estate and I don't know how old it is, but I'm not aware of any older Royal Irish lines that have these features.

Also, it's not a Rosslare Royal Irish. The amber stem is much more brownish—looks a hell of a lot like the Grafton stems to my eye—nothing like the bright orange-gold "amber" acrylic of the Rosslares.

I've never seen a Pete with a yellow stem.......replacement?
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Irish with 9mm filter? Anyone heard of that?    Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:35 pm

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I've never seen a Pete with a yellow stem.......replacement?

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Irish with 9mm filter? Anyone heard of that?    Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:36 pm

Richard Burley wrote:
Looks OK to me, if we're talking about the same pipe. Cumberland stem, I'd say. That's a higher-grade Pete, and the filter is kind of a European market thing.

Thanks for the input! I'm pretty much convinced to go for it after some research and asking a few people who are knowledgable about Peterson's in person, but I need one last little push off the ledge, as it were. Very Happy

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I've never seen a Pete with a yellow stem.......replacement?

The Rosslare Classic and Rosslare Royal Irish lines have a yellowish (orange?) faux-amber acrylic stem. I'm smoking one in my profile picture to the left, actually.
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Irish with 9mm filter? Anyone heard of that?    Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:15 pm

The Kapp Royal line also has a yellow stem. This is my 999-





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PostSubject: Re: Royal Irish with 9mm filter? Anyone heard of that?    Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:33 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Irish with 9mm filter? Anyone heard of that?    Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:28 pm

I would've guessed what Richard said. That they make some with the 9mm filter for the European market. I can't confirm it but it doesn't seem crazy to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Irish with 9mm filter? Anyone heard of that?    Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:31 pm

Peterson, like many other pipe manufacturers, regognizes that a great many pipe smokers in europe smoke primarily filter pipes while American smokers generally prefer non filter pipes. So, they tailor their products accordingly to the markets. You'll see some models that are exactly the same, other than the stem drilling, and some models that only come in one form or the other (Stanwell comes to mind, a great many designs in 9mm only). If you peruse any number of european retailers you'll see this. Peterson seems to have a few 9mm pipes that are sent to EU markets only (for the most part, cupojoes seems to carry a few), and on these EU websites you find what we might see as a bastardization of models, like a Roslare drilled for 9mm with cumberland stem (I've seen a few, I believe on either Alpascia or Bollito, in the past).

Alpascia, bollito, danish pipe shop, Novelli, estervals, etc...

http://www.tecon-gmbh.de/index.php?manufacturers_id=17&sort=2a&page=3

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Irish with 9mm filter? Anyone heard of that?    Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:33 pm

Here's one of those Royal Irish 9mm pipes with cumberland (faux) stem:

http://www.tecon-gmbh.de/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=17&products_id=7547

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