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tarheel7734

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PostSubject: Recommendations like Dark Star and Blackwoods Flake please.   Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:33 pm

I have been smoking since 98 but from 2005 to now I have been primarily an English smoker. Last year I discovered Va/per blends and this yeah nicer aged pressed Va flakes. I have smoked va's off an on over the years but had problems with a chemical reaction so didn't smoke them often. Lately I have been enjoying Blackwoods flake and Dark Star. As long as I have an acidic drink with sugar and a side of water the reaction has been minimal.

I am now looking for blends along the lines of these two. I loved the aged dark flakes. They are naturally sweet and tasty without the sickly sweet addition of flavoring found in most aros. So lets talk about this and please suggest away.
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PostSubject: Re: Recommendations like Dark Star and Blackwoods Flake please.   Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:52 pm

I'm with you. Lat forward blends are my main stay. When i stray i like Mac Baren HH Mature Virginia and GLP Cumberland though if nicotine is the chemical reaction you speak of I'd avoid Cumberland, it'll smack you around. Obviously everyone's favorite SG FVF, it needs at least a year in the tin, it's too harsh fresh. My "I don't know what I want but i want to smoke something and not care" i like John Patton's Quadruple Virginia.
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PostSubject: Re: Recommendations like Dark Star and Blackwoods Flake please.   Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:02 am

McC's Red and Black is my suggestion.
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PostSubject: Re: Recommendations like Dark Star and Blackwoods Flake please.   Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:36 am

No big is not the chemical reaction I speak of. It is basically tongue bite and ph problems.
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PostSubject: Re: Recommendations like Dark Star and Blackwoods Flake please.   Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:43 am

Richard Burley wrote:
McC's Red and Black is my suggestion.
A friend just gave me a partial tin of it from 99 and have not tried it yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Recommendations like Dark Star and Blackwoods Flake please.   Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:50 am

tarheel7734 wrote:
Richard Burley wrote:
McC's Red and Black is my suggestion.
A friend just gave me a partial tin of it from 99 and have not tried it yet.

Don't know how the R&B can be from '99 as it just came out this year !! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Recommendations like Dark Star and Blackwoods Flake please.   Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:02 am

Maybe it was another mcc blend he gave me also. Will look when I get a chance
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PostSubject: Re: Recommendations like Dark Star and Blackwoods Flake please.   Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:43 pm

McClelland's Red & Black is a great suggestion.

For (Dark Star style) dark VA flakes, I think Wessex Brigade Campaign warrants a look. Rattray Black Virginia shares some similarities too, as does Peretti's Scottish Flake.

Blackwoods is a bit tougher though. They're a half a mile apart, but I like Union Square a lot. It's more earthy than Blackwoods but it has big flavor and plenty of depth for a straight VA, and it's somewhat rugged in character. Try to find a tin with some age on it though, 3 years should be good and let it decant some prior to smoking.
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PostSubject: Re: Recommendations like Dark Star and Blackwoods Flake please.   Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:56 pm

OK..........

Sounds like you are diving into very dark pressed VAs. A nice economical sample is an ounce of McC's 2035 and rub it out into a quarter ounce of their 5105. yummy stuff......

The Red and Black is pretty good, but my pallet keeps telling me it's a couple of their blends pushed together into one tin.

I could be, and am often, wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Recommendations like Dark Star and Blackwoods Flake please.   Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:48 pm

Ozark Wizard wrote:
OK..........

Sounds like you are diving into very dark pressed VAs. A nice economical sample is an ounce of McC's 2035 and rub it out into a quarter ounce of their 5105. yummy stuff......

The Red and Black is pretty good, but my pallet keeps telling me it's a couple of their blends pushed together into one tin.

I could be, and am often, wrong.

I think I agree with this about the Red and Black. While I initially was impressed, lately I've been disappointed. Smoked dry, semi-dry, moist out of the tin, no matter what I'm missing with this tobacco, which is exasperating because the first half of the tin was quite good. Now, very "meh."

I'm a huge fan of Rattray's Marlin Flake, which does have some Perique but I think it falls in line with Dark Star. And also Rattray's Dark Fragrant, I really think this one zings!
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PostSubject: Re: Recommendations like Dark Star and Blackwoods Flake please.   Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:19 pm

Mac Baren's Dark Twist Role Cake
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PostSubject: Re: Recommendations like Dark Star and Blackwoods Flake please.   Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:20 pm

If you're already in McClelland Land with Dark Star and Blackwoods Flake you HAVE to treat yourself to their St James Woods. Luscious stuff and smooth. If you want to tread into Navy flakes try their Navy Cavendish Flake. Another great flake that will be smooth on your tongue.
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PostSubject: Re: Recommendations like Dark Star and Blackwoods Flake please.   Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:06 pm

Two very nice all red va blend/mixtures McC makes are FM 2000 a nice straight Red Va in a broken flake and 5100 Red Cake a nice all Red Va in a ribbon cut form. I smoke around a pound ea month along with R & B now and NOBODY does Va's as do the boys up in KC, NOBODY !! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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