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Gonzo

Gonzo

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PostSubject: Pre-carbonizing   Pre-carbonizing EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 2:24 pm

A fair number of commercial pipe manufacturers use some form of pre-carbonizing in their pipes. I have tried a few times to replicate this. Experiencing limited success, certain areas of the bowl seem harder to get a nice even coat on than others. Is anyone else doing this? Any insight as to what methods or treatments you have used with more or less success? Thanks for any input.
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Hermit

Hermit

Age : 67
Location : Ascension Parish
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-carbonizing   Pre-carbonizing EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 3:50 pm

Just say no. Evil or Very Mad
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Richard Burley

Richard Burley

Location : North Coast NY
Registration date : 2011-04-09

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PostSubject: Re: Pre-carbonizing   Pre-carbonizing EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 3:53 pm

Hermit wrote:
Just say no.  Evil or Very Mad

+1...unless you've got some green wood there.
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Gonzo

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PostSubject: Re: Pre-carbonizing   Pre-carbonizing EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 6:26 pm

So does this mean you guys have tried it with poor results, or do not like it even when the mass production pipes come that way and are against it all together??
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Richard Burley

Richard Burley

Location : North Coast NY
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-carbonizing   Pre-carbonizing EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 6:53 pm

I, personally, am against it altogether, so mea culpa--I didn't mean to derail your thread. This subject is a perennial here, and probably elsewhere.  I'm sure someone will come along with a great waterglass recipe or something that works like a charm. My only experience is in removing the coating, with varying degrees of success, so I will now bow out and exit stage right.
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Gonzo

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PostSubject: Re: Pre-carbonizing   Pre-carbonizing EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 7:58 pm

No worries, I know some stuff isn't for everyone. I like to experiment with my pipe making a bit, different shapes, alternative woods etc. The pre-carb thing has been a curiosity for bit, I know some like it. If I can figure out a good reliable method would be something I could offer to those who are interested.
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Dutch

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PostSubject: Re: Pre-carbonizing   Pre-carbonizing EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 11:05 pm

I remember Al explaining one of the popular methods being used nowdays. Something like coating the interior of the bowl with molasses or honey, and then taking crushed charcoal and filling the bowl, and allowing to sit overnight. Next morning, simply pour the loose charcoal out of the bowl, and viola.

I may have the process incorrect. Hopefully Al will come along and reiterate it for us.
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Gonzo

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PostSubject: Re: Pre-carbonizing   Pre-carbonizing EmptyMon Feb 15, 2016 9:22 am

Thanks Dutch, that's a bit different than what I have been doing. May do some digging and see if I can find any more info on this approach.
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Sid.Stavros

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Location : Athens-Greece
Registration date : 2015-08-05

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PostSubject: Re: Pre-carbonizing   Pre-carbonizing EmptyMon Feb 22, 2016 5:06 am



Gonzo wrote:
Is anyone else doing this? Any insight as to what methods or treatments you have used with more or less success?

I have done it, not in the way above but with other methods.No problem at all.
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Gonzo

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PostSubject: Re: Pre-carbonizing   Pre-carbonizing EmptyMon Feb 22, 2016 8:59 am

Thanks Sid S. , I have seen this vid. technique before. Some of my current method borrows from this idea. I can't imagine leaving the stem on for this part, but clearly they must have done so before without issue.
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Sid.Stavros

Sid.Stavros

Location : Athens-Greece
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-carbonizing   Pre-carbonizing EmptyTue Feb 23, 2016 6:11 am

Some use "ready" material and some pipe-mud etc.

http://pipe-smoke.blogspot.gr/2010/02/blog-post_3960.html

I have done my own experiments, i use fluid honey+tobacco ash or a specific liqueur+corn flour or caster sugar.
Here is the result:

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ontariopiper

ontariopiper

Age : 48
Location : St George, Ontario CANADA
Registration date : 2015-03-10

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PostSubject: Re: Pre-carbonizing   Pre-carbonizing EmptyTue Feb 23, 2016 8:36 am

Dutch wrote:
I remember Al explaining one of the popular methods being used nowdays. Something like coating the interior of the bowl with molasses or honey, and then taking crushed charcoal and filling the bowl, and allowing to sit overnight. Next morning, simply pour the loose charcoal out of the bowl, and viola.

I may have the process incorrect. Hopefully Al will come along and reiterate it for us.

I have used this bowl coating method a few times with maple syrup and powdered charcoal. It's not really carbonising the wood, as you've already pointed out. It's a simple coating meant to encourage cake (or hide bowl repairs).
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