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Timbo

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PostSubject: SG tobaccos and bite   Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:46 pm

Guys,

I've only tried two SG tobaccos, Cabbies and Lakeland Dark, but I always seem to get a steamed tongue off of them. I've tried drying them out for up to twenty four hours, different pipes and different packing methods. The only thing that helped a little was using a cob but I still got a little burnt.

Does anyone have any suggestions about what I'm doing wrong? I really love the taste of these two but can't smoke them currently and it's put the fear of God into me about trying other SG mixtures.

Thanks all

Tim
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Bugsahearn

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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:25 am

Strange I've never had them bite and i am a fast puffer! i get it is about mouth chemistry
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:21 am

Buggerations, I've a feeling you might be right Bugs. I'll try jarring them up for a while and try again in a year or so. A real pity seeing as I really love the taste of these two.

Thanks Bugsahearn.

Tim
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 8:48 am

Hey Tim,

I'm with Bugs. I'm a bit of SG fan and have never experienced any bite. That said I've not sampled either of the two blends you speak of.

As you've alluded to, perhaps dry them a little more and over exaggerate your sip.

Good luck old bean,

Stick.
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:07 am

Stick wrote:
Hey Tim,

I'm with Bugs. I'm a bit of SG fan and have never experienced any bite. That said I've not sampled either of the two blends you speak of.

As you've alluded to,  perhaps dry them a little more and over exaggerate your sip.

Good luck old bean,

Stick.

I'm somewhere in the middle here, Tim. I have been burnt worse than a cuckold and also been able to smoke their blends days on end.

Old Stick is on to something here. Sip slowly, very very slowly. I haven't tried those two blends you've mentioned but I like to take a fresh flake out of the tin or jar and rub it out immediately until it looks like a shag. I let that rubbed out portion sit for maybe 10-15 mins, no more. I think SG blends need to be a little damp for maximum flavor. Maybe this will allow you to sip slower, so you're not searching for that flavor hence over puffing.

Just my take.
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:12 am

Also, (maybe you've done this) try smaller bowls and narrow chambers. And make sure you don't over pack, it'll be a shorter smoke, but if it's w/o bite, then it's worth it.
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:52 am

I used to get burned from them as well. Of course, I barely let them dry before loading. Once I got that part figured out, I found if I loaded too large a bowl, I got issues because the cherry was so hot that it cooked my mouth and I lost flavor. Now I use a short bowl, about 2 cm tall, and 1.5 cm in diameter. Haven't been burnt since, flavor all the way to the bottom, and the pipe stays cool.

Chemistry does play a big part though. Experimentation is all part and parcel of this game..

Best wishes!
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:07 am

Ozark Wizard wrote:
I used to get burned from them as well. Of course, I barely let them dry before loading. Once I got that part figured out, I found if I loaded too large a bowl, I got issues because the cherry was so hot that it cooked my mouth and I lost flavor. Now I use a short bowl, about 2 cm tall, and 1.5 cm in diameter. Haven't been burnt since, flavor all the way to the bottom, and the pipe stays cool.

Chemistry does play a big part though. Experimentation is all part and parcel of this game..

Best wishes!

I think this is it. Smaller bowls=SG success!
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:57 pm

Wow!! Interesting!! I've never encountered any bite from SG blends. However, I don't smoke them all. I have been finishing off some jarred Balkan Flake. No bite out of that! cheers FTRPLT
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:52 pm

I never got bite from SG blends either.
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:00 pm

JimInks wrote:
I never got bite from SG blends either.

Of course not Sir, you are the consummate tobacco aficionado! I'm sure you are more than practiced at avoiding the dreaded burn/bite. I have learned to handle myself better most of the time. Not all, but most.........lol!
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:17 pm

Ozark Wizard wrote:
JimInks wrote:
I never got bite from SG blends either.

Of course not Sir, you are the consummate tobacco aficionado! I'm sure you are more than practiced at avoiding the dreaded burn/bite. I have learned to handle myself better most of the time. Not all, but most.........lol!  

Lol! Well, I don't ever puff beyond a moderate rate, and often, a slower one. I never let my tongue get near the bit, and I drink cold drinks, preferably ice tea and/ ice water. Since we introduce hot smoke into our system, cold drinks are good for better enjoyment, including refreshing and soothing the tongue. Although, I admit in the Fall and Winter, hot tea or coffee with the right tobacco is quite enjoyable.
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:27 pm

I'd say smoke slower. I've been smoking both those blends lately and never had a problem. Don't puff it fast to keep it going if it wants to go out, just let it go out and relight. Use matches.
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 7:50 pm

Can't say I've ever had a problem with Sammy G's biting me. But there again I dry them out pretty thoroughly first as they seem to come at excessive moisture levels, and prefer my 'baccys on the dry side anyhow.

Don't get the dreaded bite very often anymore. Maybe I've wised up. Or maybe I've just been lucky!

Neutral



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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:58 pm

another thing to consider...these are both newer blends. Cabbie's def gives me a spicy tingle in my mouth and Lakeland is similar to 1792 which if any SG could bite me it'd be this. Try some of the older blends...FVF for instance
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:23 pm

So far, through the blends I have tried, only St James Flake and Firedance haven't bitten me. I haven't tried them all though. It could be that I was steaming my tongue though, due to lack of dry time.
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:44 pm

Thanks for the suggestions guys, will try both a smaller bowled pipe and even smaller sips than usual and see how that works out.

I may also need to bring my Mr Coffee mug warmer into play to help dry out the tobacco more easily as it's currently still about 70% RH here even in Autumn.

I'll report back and let you know guys know how I go.

Thanks again

Tim
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:58 pm

Timbo wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions guys, will try both a smaller bowled pipe and even smaller sips than usual and see how that works out.

I may also need to bring my Mr Coffee mug warmer into play to help dry out the tobacco more easily as it's currently still about 70% RH here even in Autumn.

I'll report back and let you know guys know how I go.

Thanks again

Tim

I understand the humidity issues. I will either place the drying tray near the air conditioner unit, or I came upon a thought whilst soaking pouch moistening discs. So I grabbed one of those silica gel packs you get in pill bottles and would put that in a container next to the tobacco. Not touching, mind you. Another time, when I spaced out where it was, I put the tobacco in a ramekin, then put that in a ziplock bag with a handful of white rice. Waited a half hour and it was perfect. I figure if it dries out damp electronics, it should work on wet flakes.

Just a thought..........
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sun May 01, 2016 12:23 am

Ozark Wizard wrote:
Timbo wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions guys, will try both a smaller bowled pipe and even smaller sips than usual and see how that works out.

I may also need to bring my Mr Coffee mug warmer into play to help dry out the tobacco more easily as it's currently still about 70% RH here even in Autumn.

I'll report back and let you know guys know how I go.

Thanks again

Tim

I understand the humidity issues. I will either place the drying tray near the air conditioner unit, or I came upon a thought whilst soaking pouch moistening discs. So I grabbed one of those silica gel packs you get in pill bottles and would put that in a container next to the tobacco. Not touching, mind you. Another time, when I spaced out where it was, I put the tobacco in a ramekin, then put that in a ziplock bag with a handful of white rice. Waited a half hour and it was perfect. I figure if it dries out damp electronics, it should work on wet flakes.

Just a thought..........  

You can get food safe silica packets from amazon like the ones you find in beef jerky.
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Sun May 01, 2016 12:54 am

Timbo wrote:
Guys,

I've only tried two SG tobaccos, Cabbies and Lakeland Dark, but I always seem to get a steamed tongue off of them. I've tried drying them out for up to twenty four hours, different pipes and different packing methods. The only thing that helped a little was using a cob but I still got a little burnt.

Does anyone have any suggestions about what I'm doing wrong? I really love the taste of these two but can't smoke them currently and it's put the fear of God into me about trying other SG mixtures.

Thanks all

Tim

Some pipers frown on the use of a filter but whenever I have a blend that bites (usually aromatics) I smoke them in a pipe using a 9mm filter and the problem is resolved. Smile

AJ
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Mon May 02, 2016 1:34 am

I smoke a lot of BBF and every now and again, if overzealous, I get bit from the steam. If I'm smoking stuff that is really moist I find it heats up from the steam burns my tongue a bit.
Solution...dry it out more and take it easy.
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Mon May 02, 2016 2:05 am

Psmith wrote:
I smoke a lot of BBF and every now and again, if overzealous, I get bit from the steam.  If I'm smoking stuff that is really moist I find it heats up from the steam burns my tongue a bit.
Solution...dry it out more and take it easy.

Good advice! Good to see you posting again. You've been missed. Don't be a stranger and drop in and say "hello" every now and then. We like viewpoints from all around the world. Smile

AJ
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PostSubject: Re: SG tobaccos and bite   Mon May 02, 2016 7:10 pm

Here to report some success. I dried some Lakeland dark on Mr Coffee for a few minutes until crispy dry, loaded up one of my tiny pipes and lit up. I got to the bottom of the bowl with the only tongue tingle the usual one I get from Kentucky/Burley. It was a lovely, flavourful smoke, similar to ODF but with more subtlety.

Will do similar with the Cabbies Mixture and let you guys know.

Thanks heaps for the suggestions.

Cheers

Tim
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