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PostSubject: Suspicious activity   Wed May 11, 2016 3:45 pm

I've long harboured the thought that the BoB site was the cause of some frustrating Ad pop ups and note that others have posted similar thoughts on various threads.  I've shared my views but have really stood in the wings bowing to others who seem to have a greater knowledge.

But I've noticed something else over the past few weeks.

I often use my Android smart phone to check in on the BoB's comings and goings but recently I've been getting all manner of pops ups with virus related warnings, notifications saying I've won competitions, and even a page that does a pretty realistic imitation of running a virus check of its own accord.  My phone has even started vibrating to warn me of these events.  Now, I must stress that I have never had this experience with any other site, ever.  My phone has AVG installed as does my lap top and in the 15 or 20 or so years I've been running it I've never experienced any snags whatsoever.

Now my point is this.  If the BoB really is that squeaky as some would appear to hold, why is it the only site that I have ever experienced any snags of this nature with?  It's got to the point where my phone is almost unusable for accessing this site.  And I reiterate, I have no snags whatsoever with any other site either on my phone or laptop...
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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Wed May 11, 2016 5:02 pm

The site has definitely been compromised.
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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Wed May 11, 2016 5:52 pm

If you haven't already seen this thread, check it out. Now that I've had Adblock Plus installed it's eliminated all banner ads plus the more recent pop-ups.

http://www.brothersofbriar.com/t32832-for-those-of-you-who-are-still-seeing-banner-ads


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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Wed May 11, 2016 5:57 pm

I read BoB via the web page on my iPhone 5 with Safari all the time with no protection and all I get is a flashing banner but no pop ups. My PC's are Windows 7 and 10 with FireFox with ABP and I get no ads at all. I have the AVG Ultimate package for my PC's that I could use on my phone but I don't. Should I be using it??? Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Wed May 11, 2016 6:04 pm

daveinlax wrote:
I read BoB via the web page on my iPhone 5 with Safari all the time with no protection and all I get is a flashing banner but no pop ups. My PC's are Windows 7 and 10 with FireFox with ABP and I get no ads at all. I have the AVG Ultimate package  for my PC's that I could use on my phone but I don't. Should I be using it??? Shocked

Hi Dave,

I've only ever run the free edition of AVG and have been delighted with its performance. Not sure how useful it is on the phone.
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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Wed May 11, 2016 6:10 pm

Here's an example of one of several pop ups I'm getting.

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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Wed May 11, 2016 6:31 pm

Indeed.

I run a different protection software on my phone than this laptop.. Another type on my other PC's. This little guy still gets odd full page pop-ups saying something is out of date or it found a threat and needs to do a scan. Not so often as I used to before I did some work on it. I'm curious about a few things I've noted about our beloved site...... Perhaps someone here can clarify?

Near the bottom of the home page here it lists users on site. Guests, etc. Looks like this...........

Our users have posted a total of 391896 messages
We have 2961 registered users
The newest registered user is the corn cob kid
In total there are 42 users online :: 5 Registered, 1 Hidden and 36 Guests :: 2 Bots
Most users ever online was 251 on Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:24 am

Registered Users: Brewdude, Briar Spirit, daveinlax, Ozark Wizard, Stick

(This is current to my posting.)

It notes 2 Bots. "Bots : Google (2), bing"

Now I'm not too tech savvy, but can we be sure that those 'windows' are 'secure'? My experience with Bots has taught me they are rather easy to manipulate (hack), and they can be used to create issues, (i.e., allow faster access to sites (hijack your browser), allow faster traffic of information (allow pop-ups, any link asking for access to your session of your browser without your knowledge or consent), etc. Suffice to say they make me uncomfortable. Then there is the 36 guests. REALLY? 36 voyeurs? Makes you feel like a girl in a peep show, eh? Don't get me wrong, I spied for a while too before joining. The show is great. I just wonder if all of those observers are flesh and blood, that's all.

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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Thu May 12, 2016 12:03 am

Great disclaimer Wiz, really made me chuckle.

Good observation with the bots. I've been reflecting some more and much as it pains me to say it I have to agree with ZC's comment.

This leads me to a question. Who is responsible for providing a safe browsing experience on this site?
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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Thu May 12, 2016 12:31 am

You busted us.. We figured out how to kidnap and brain wash Google indexing bots for nefarious purpose.

The 36 guest are a sordid group.. 3 FBI agents, 2 CIA, 9 from NSA, 2 from NASA (MIB Div) and 20 various visitors from other places, Mars is big on BoB, plus there's the extra dimensional gues that don't even show up. (Do you realize we have had 4-6,000 members over the years? 36 is not a big number)

Stick, you are responsible for providing yourself a safe browsing experience on this site, just like every other site.

My only advise, and I don't say this trolling or lightly, is if you are that afraid of BoB to quit visiting.
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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Thu May 12, 2016 12:33 am

Just absorbed your pic..Before you go, get your phone virus free and maybe browsing websites won't be so irksome.

Go do a virus check on the site: Norton, Securi, MrWeb, AVG & Virus Total says it's clean.  So if some super virus has gotten us it's ahead of all the virus scanners.


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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Thu May 12, 2016 1:31 am

The guests you see are probably not anything to be concerned about. I myself don't bother to sign in unless I have something to say. So I'm quite probably one of them lol.

Jim
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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Thu May 12, 2016 4:29 am

Stick, I have been getting blocked content on the ads from McAfee WebAdvisor. It says they are from dangerous or suspicious sites, so one accidental click on one of them could have given you a problem. I'd also check your cookie handling & block 3rd party cookies from sites you do not visit, it might help. YMMV

The site has been acting goofy for awhile, if you try to use your browser back button it won't let you go back with 1 click like normal you have to click twice or more. I've seen others post about this as well. It might be the blocked content.

I do the same as Hufflepuff a lot, I look on here as a guest & sign in when I have something to post. When you visit as a guest there are all sorts of links on various things made by VigLink, which is probably from one of the bots, I don't know.



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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Thu May 12, 2016 12:49 pm

I am posting from the iPhone now. No ads. None. I cannot get it to display ads on this site.

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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Thu May 12, 2016 1:17 pm

I am searching the Forumotion forums for clues.  

I ran two searches for "misleading content".  None was found in any of the ads that have recently appeared on the site for users not logged in.  None of the posted links on the board contain any bad content.  





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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Thu May 12, 2016 1:39 pm

This maybe be of some help for a few of you.

http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-to/uninstall-malware-from-your-android-device-0164072/

I can see no discussion other than what little I posted about malware, ad problems, etc, on the Forum of the forums. Almost certainly if you are having difficulties, it is your device. Some of that malware is a pain in the backside to get rid of.

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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Thu May 12, 2016 4:18 pm

Gents,

Many thanks for taking the time to reply, it's very much appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Thu May 12, 2016 4:27 pm

puros_bran wrote:


Stick, you are responsible for providing yourself a safe browsing experience on this site, just like every other site.  

My only advise, and I don't say this trolling or lightly, is if you are that afraid of BoB to quit visiting.  

Yup, I guess I asked for that PB. I'm very aware that I am responsible for my own browsing safety and have been doing so very effectively since the dawn of the www. Perhaps I didn't articulate my point very well - I was enquiring as to whether there is a group ('Admin'?) that are responsible for keeping the site 'clean'. To be honest I don't know how this would work; does a virus / malware shield come with the platform that the BoB is built upon? Don't get me wrong, this isn't a finger pointing exercise, I'm just keen to understand so I can make an informed decision as to how to resolve this.

... and I really don't want to quit visiting.
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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Thu May 12, 2016 4:32 pm

puros_bran wrote:
Just absorbed your pic..Before you go, get your phone virus free and maybe browsing websites won't be so irksome.


My phone and laptop are virus free PB. Both have up to date AVG installed and regular scans don't pick anything up on either device. And that's partly my point. It seems to be the BoB site that generates these snags, not something that is embedded within my phone. When I browse other sites I have no snags whatsoever.
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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Thu May 12, 2016 4:46 pm

Jim and 12, thanks for your thoughts. Again, much appreciated.

Carlos - thanks for doing the digging. I watched the youtube link with interest, restarted in safe mode (new to me so good learning) and then checked my apps. Nothing there at all untoward.

At a loss to be honest. scratch Perhaps I'll just abandon the phone for visiting the BoB. Ho hum. Life goes on!

Thanks again chaps.
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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Thu May 12, 2016 6:04 pm

Stick, I wasn't finger pointing.. your pic says your phone is not virus free, you say it is.. scratch scratch

Who is responsible? We aren't that organized. I've told y'all from the start we aren't illuminati.. Consider this, we brought BH onboard to provide some structure.. He post axes for trade on a pipe board. Case closed. Lol. I do occasionally exam the hosts forums, as does the other admins/mods. I occasionally run it against those bug busting sites I listed earlier, apparently Carlos does as well, maybe Mark does to, I don't know.
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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Thu May 12, 2016 6:24 pm

puros_bran wrote:
Stick, I wasn't finger pointing.. your pic says your phone is not virus free, you say it is.. scratch scratch

PB. That's not an app that I've installed on my phone telling me I have a virus, that's a website that I have not authorised to open on my device, a website (amongst other pop ups and windows) that only ever appear when I visit the BoB. That's why I'm so confused.

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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Fri May 13, 2016 1:51 pm

You probably got the malware when installing an app. Even from the Google store. Maybe a wallpaper app. That seems to be most common. Why it only triggers on BoB is unknown.

Forumotion is our forum provider. Anyone can create a forum with them. Check their website for more info. They are always doing something with upgrading and security. Sometimes things work odd around here when they make some forum changes.

Now, we can customize our forum for our needs. So they do not control everything. But they are our hosts and responsible for security of the system our forum is built upon. If there was some problem with malware triggering when surfing Forumotion forums, I would expect to see a thread about it on the forum of the forums.

Additionally, nearly all the anti-virus programs do not protect against malware. Nor do they search for malware. There are some options offered, but those often cost money.

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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Fri May 13, 2016 2:55 pm

puros_bran wrote:
I've told y'all from the start we aren't illuminati..

Sounds an awful lot like something an illuminatus would say.



FWIW, I've never had the ads/popup issues that I've seen other members mention in the past. And then, out of the blue, I got hit last week. It wasn't a popup so much as the browser redirected to an ad site. To be honest, I didn't really think twice and didn't take a hard look at where it redirected me (irresponsible, I know). This was on a desktop PC, not a tablet/smartphone.

At any rate, it hasn't happened again since, so I'm not too terribly concerned (I use the AdBlock plugin for Firefox and protect my PCs with Webroot in case any baddies slip through).

Given what the admins are saying, I'm inclined to (naively?) file this under the "Meh...s*** happens" category.
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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Sat May 14, 2016 1:44 am

Carlos - thank you. That's good info. It's interesting that it doesn't appear to be a reported problem on other forums. I'll review my malware protection and see where that leads me.

In the meantime I'm resigned to agree with idbowman's comment; crap happens!

(Soldier on...)

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PostSubject: Re: Suspicious activity   Sat May 14, 2016 5:36 am

Ian, please let me reiterate what I stated to Stick...
You are responsible for your own browsing safety.. Us mods are to bust doing illuminati stuff....uhhh..errr.. I mean mod stuff to bother with paying attention to BoB..

I still deeply suspect the "victims" are purusing 'free porn' sites and getting Cyber VD.. But that's really none of my business.
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