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PostSubject: A sad day in Blighty   Tue May 23, 2017 5:18 pm

Woke up to this this morning:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-40008389

No cheers.
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Tue May 23, 2017 6:06 pm

I saw that last night. Terrible. My sympathies to all involved.

Quite a venue for such expression.

No cheers.
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Tue May 23, 2017 6:21 pm

Prayers for this world.
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Tue May 23, 2017 7:02 pm

I just can't take it all in.

Mad

No Cheers,

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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Tue May 23, 2017 7:56 pm

Horrific. Kids murdered by ISIS. Prayers for your country and its fine people.
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Tue May 23, 2017 11:23 pm

Truly tragic.

Can't help but wonder what the travel ban opponents throughout the globe truly think about this?
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Wed May 24, 2017 7:58 am

That was really awful. I don't know how you prevent these kind of attacks, short of good intelligence and follow-up. I immediately thought of my little granddaughter and should she go to a concert one day. What a bunch of savages.
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Wed May 24, 2017 9:48 am

riff raff wrote:
That was really awful.  I don't know how you prevent these kind of attacks, short of good intelligence and follow-up...

You end regimes that sponsor jihad, summarily and by any means. We'd still be fighting WW II if we had had "leaders" like the ones today. As things are, expect more...forever.
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Wed May 24, 2017 11:20 am

Richard Burley wrote:
riff raff wrote:
That was really awful.  I don't know how you prevent these kind of attacks, short of good intelligence and follow-up...

You end regimes that sponsor jihad, summarily and by any means. We'd still be fighting WW II if we had had "leaders" like the ones today. As things are, expect more...forever.

Such are the ways of humans. Once, aggression was used to acquire resources. That was dangerous enough. Now, it seems that ideology is motivation for violence, and while you can give a man resources to curb his appetite, changing his beliefs is a more difficult task.

Sooner or later a firm united stance will have to be taken by the majority to settle things.

But, by the numbers, we may be outnumbered. History will be our judge. Whether heroes or villains will depend on the writers.
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Wed May 24, 2017 1:05 pm

As bad as it was truth is and I know I am speaking blunt so bear with me. God is in control and when he says come home it don't matter what your doing your going home, so live your life enjoy it, with all the blessings on this amazing earth and the people around you live like tommarow was your last day and don't worry about dieing or live in fear. God holds you in his hands and is the only thing fear fears it's self.
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Wed May 24, 2017 1:09 pm

Ozark Wizard wrote:
History will be our judge. Whether heroes or villains will depend on the writers.

Brilliantly put.



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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Wed May 24, 2017 2:00 pm

I absolutely abhor religion. This tragedy just boggles my mind.
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Wed May 24, 2017 3:24 pm

Fatman wrote:
I absolutely abhor religion. This tragedy just boggles my mind.

I'm with you John. I'm afraid if I replied to Arky's post freely, flicking the safety catch off so to speak, I may loose a lot of friends on the BoB.

Nothing personal Arky old chap, and I do agree with you when you promote enjoying life the fullest each and every day we can. I've lost count of how many times I've said that to my children over the past few months... but for the sake of harmony on this wonderful board, let's leave it there.
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Wed May 24, 2017 4:20 pm

I quickly checked with my/our family in Chester to make sure all were OK and safe. We do visit Manchester (fly in there also) when we go over for a visit. How awful. The day of reckoning is coming! FTRPLT
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Wed May 24, 2017 5:03 pm

I'm not here to offend trust me but at the same time I just believe everything happens good and bad for a reason. And the reason is decided by God.
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Wed May 24, 2017 5:06 pm

arkansaspiper wrote:
I'm not here to offend trust me...

I know that Arky. You're ok mate.
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Wed May 24, 2017 5:06 pm

I am sorry for the events that happened tho
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Wed May 24, 2017 5:32 pm

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I quickly checked with my/our family in Chester to make sure all were OK and safe. We do visit Manchester (fly in there also) when we go over for a visit. How awful. The day of reckoning is coming! FTRPLT

Chester's only an hour north from me; lovely town.  It seems that the most likely victims would be teenagers, most especially girls, and their parents.  A tragic story came to light today of a mother who was desperately searching the local hospitals for her daughter before finally accepting the awful truth that she'd lost her child. I'm glad your family are safe.
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Wed May 24, 2017 7:00 pm

My thoughts have been with you guys the last couple of days Stick, I'm still stunned by the news. As always a huge thank you to the emergency crews and involved. 

Definitely no cheers. 

Tim
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Wed May 24, 2017 11:50 pm

Been desperately trying to find words for this. Simply stunned by such stupidity and callous indifference. My thoughts and prayers go to the families of course. Such needless loss. Sigh

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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:23 am

And so it continues. Only a few weeks after Manchester London gets targetted (again).

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/07/london-bridge-attack-last-of-eight-victims-identified-as-xavier-thomas

This method of using a moving vehicle as a weapon and then stabbing whilst on foot will likely become a preferred terror method due to the limited planning required and resulting small footprint.

The BBC World Service this morning also reported that the Taliban are becoming reestablished in Afghanistan.

And so it continues.
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:59 am

Is it me, or does it seem Afghanistan is a seedbed, or touchstone, for such extremists? If I recall my history correctly, every major power that has tried to eliminate resistance from said extremists has been stymied by that region. Perhaps something to do with the Anunnaki?
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:14 pm

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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:23 pm

Ozark Wizard wrote:
Is it me, or does it seem Afghanistan is a seedbed, or touchstone, for such extremists? If I recall my history correctly, every major power that has tried to eliminate resistance from said extremists has been stymied by that region. Perhaps something to do with the Anunnaki?

If I recall my history correctly the Russians failed despite deploying troops in their millions. Quite what we thought we were going to achieve with a mere fraction of that figure is beyond me. And guess what... now that we've retired the Taliban are returning. Now you didn't need to be Columbo to see that coming.
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PostSubject: Re: A sad day in Blighty   Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:13 pm

Saw a map, the other day, showing all the terrorist attacks in Europe over the last 10 or so years. Interestingly pretty much every country had been touched, except one...

Poland.

It's my understanding that they have not accepted any of the immigrants coming from countries with known terrorist activity.

I know, I know, one of those things we're not supposed to talk about... Politically incorrect and all. Rolling Eyes
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