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PostSubject: Noilly Prat Vermouth   Noilly Prat Vermouth EmptySat Jan 10, 2009 4:25 pm

For those who read the WSJ, there is a big article in the Personal section about NP vermouth. NOT GOOD NEWS!!!!! affraid The made for America dry vermouth will no longer be made!!! Sad It is being replaced with the French version which is "herbier," sweeter, and opaque in color. No My beloved American dry Martini is threatened with extinction!! I have laid in a goodly supply of the current production while looking for a new "dry" vermouth. I understand there is one from California called "Vya." Anyone tried this one, or know anything about it??? "These are the times that try men's souls!" Evil or Very Mad On my way to drown my sorrows with Plymouth gin and Noilly Prat! cheers FTRPLT
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PostSubject: Re: Noilly Prat Vermouth   Noilly Prat Vermouth EmptySat Jan 10, 2009 7:09 pm

Sad to hear. We hardly use vermouth anymore though... maybe a drop. Usually put the Bombay Sapphire in the shaker along with a splash of the olive juice in the jar. Shake. Pour. Drink. Repeat.
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Justpipes
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Age : 60
Location : Randolph County, NC If you don't know, you wouldn'
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PostSubject: Re: Noilly Prat Vermouth   Noilly Prat Vermouth EmptySat Jan 10, 2009 10:45 pm

Be a man.....get yourself a half gallon of Old Crow and forget about it!

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Doc Manhattan

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PostSubject: Re: Noilly Prat Vermouth   Noilly Prat Vermouth EmptySat Jan 10, 2009 11:04 pm

I hear nothing but good stuff about Vya vermouth, though I haven't tried it myself. I use the Martini & Rossi, which ain't great, but is very predictable. And it's always around, since my girlfriend's regular drink is a vermouth cocktail (1/2 sweet, 1/2 dry, dash of bitters.)

Really, you're better off stocking up: using a teaspoon of vermouth in each martini, a 750 mL bottle has about 150 martinis' worth. If you bought a case of the current NP, you could drink like Robert Benchley for a few years before you had to find an alternative.
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PostSubject: Re: Noilly Prat Vermouth   Noilly Prat Vermouth EmptySun Jan 11, 2009 4:29 am

ftrplt wrote:
For those who read the WSJ, there is a big article in the Personal section about NP vermouth. NOT GOOD NEWS!!!!! affraid The made for America dry vermouth will no longer be made!!! Sad It is being replaced with the French version which is "herbier," sweeter, and opaque in color. No My beloved American dry Martini is threatened with extinction!! I have laid in a goodly supply of the current production while looking for a new "dry" vermouth. I understand there is one from California called "Vya." Anyone tried this one, or know anything about it??? "These are the times that try men's souls!" Evil or Very Mad On my way to drown my sorrows with Plymouth gin and Noilly Prat! cheers FTRPLT

Vya is superb, but not always easy to find. Another option is Lillet Blanc. It's sweeter than the current Noilly Prat dry, with a wonderful, subtle floral note in addition to the other botanicals. I've been using it in my Martinis for a few months, and love it. If you make yours in the range of 1:16 to 1:12, it's great. If you're a fan of the 1:8 Martini, it's too sweet, at least to my taste.

It's a shame that NP is being Europeanized. It's been my dry vermouth of choice for a long, long time. I not only use it in cocktails, but also for cooking. When I make risotto, a splash of NP dry always goes in the pan before the stock gets ladled in. It perfumes the kitchen, and adds a beautiful dimension to the final result.

There's nothing wrong with the European "version" of the aperitif, but one more choice is being taken away from us, likely for purely economic reasons. *sigh*

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PostSubject: Re: Noilly Prat Vermouth   Noilly Prat Vermouth EmptySun Jan 11, 2009 4:34 am

Doc Manhattan wrote:
I hear nothing but good stuff about Vya vermouth, though I haven't tried it myself. I use the Martini & Rossi, which ain't great, but is very predictable. And it's always around, since my girlfriend's regular drink is a vermouth cocktail (1/2 sweet, 1/2 dry, dash of bitters.)

'tis a bit spendy, but your mate might enjoy Carpano Antica. It's my vermouth of choice for Manhattans, and makes a wonderful aperitif on its own. It's not as sugary sweet as the Martini or Cinzano sweets, and has a wonderfully complex aroma and flavour. It's magnificent stuff. Punt Y Mes ain't bad, either. In either case, you can forgo the bitters - they have enough character without having to add the Angostura.

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Doc Manhattan

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PostSubject: Re: Noilly Prat Vermouth   Noilly Prat Vermouth EmptySun Jan 11, 2009 11:18 am

Thanks for the tips! I did try, and really liked the one bottle of Punt y Mes I've tried... I used it in Negronis, and it made a teriffic drink. If Carpano Antica is in that style, I'll give it a try next time I'm at a liquor store with a good selection.
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ftrplt

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Age : 73
Location : Split between Raleigh, NC and OKC, OK
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PostSubject: Re: Noilly Prat Vermouth   Noilly Prat Vermouth EmptySun Jan 11, 2009 2:45 pm

I'll continue to stock up on the current NP while it's still available. I do make my 'tinis at least 8:1, sometimes stronger. When I've been compelled to use M&R, or any sweeter vermouth, I do go up to 12/16:1!! I do enjoy a good James Bond/Ian Fleming Vesper; so Kina Lillet (rouge et blanc) is an option. The article recommended Boissier and Dolin dry vermouths; don't know that I've ever seen those. I'll check around!! And as for substituting Old Crow for my beloved Dry Martinis.....That would be like trading GLP Odyssey for something named "Walnut!!" lol! Noilly Prat Vermouth 98591 FTRPLT
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PostSubject: Re: Noilly Prat Vermouth   Noilly Prat Vermouth EmptySun Jan 11, 2009 3:45 pm

ftrplt wrote:
And as for substituting Old Crow for my beloved Dry Martinis.....That would be like trading GLP Odyssey for something named "Walnut!!" lol! Noilly Prat Vermouth 98591 FTRPLT

Doh!!!!!!!!

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