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PostSubject: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:40 pm

I was wondering how many of you primarily smoke aromatics. If so, which ones?
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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:46 pm

Does that include the stinky Brit stuff...or just the American blends?

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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:04 pm

I do, though not primarily. Recently infatuated with SWR Aromatic for sweet cravings, most notably after something like Dunhill's Royal Yacht--to me, a nico-bomb that requires gentle withdrawal. Another is C&D's Autumn Evening. Most taste like perfumed air when first lit, but the good ones redeem themselves in the lower half of the bowl. Gotta give 'em a chance. They start to percolate and actually start to taste like tobacco. I like the progression. Call me eclectic.

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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:08 pm

I wouldn't call Royal Yacht an Aro...but if YOU want to...fine with me. I love RY but never thought of it that way.

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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:08 pm

Occasionally if I am feeling nostalgic. Grandpa usually smoked Rum&Maple or Paladin (Cherry). Havenít found Rum&Maple in awhile but will load up a Grabow or the Kirsten with a cherry blend from time to time. All my other pipes are dedicated to Virginiaís or English/Balkan blends.
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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:11 pm

I will leave the RY to you guys to fight over. Thatís all Iíve got to say about that. No
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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:15 pm

If we get to vote for the Brit stuff I'd pick Dark Flake/Plug Scented, Broken Flake No. 7 and Glengarry as top contenders. Broken No. 7 is perhaps my favorite.

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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:17 pm

Blackhorse wrote:
I wouldn't call Royal Yacht an Aro...but if YOU want to...fine with me. I love RY but never thought of it that way.

Nor do I. Tastes like plain tobacco to me. I get a sweet tooth AFTER smoking it. Hope I've made myself clear on this crucial issue. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:18 pm

Blackhorse wrote:
Does that include the stinky Brit stuff...or just the American blends?

All's fair in love, war, and aromatics!! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:23 pm

Richard Burley wrote:
Blackhorse wrote:
I wouldn't call Royal Yacht an Aro...but if YOU want to...fine with me. I love RY but never thought of it that way.

Nor do I. Tastes like plain tobacco to me. I get a sweet tooth AFTER smoking it. Hope I've made myself clear on this crucial issue. Wink

OK - my bad - clear on the re-read.

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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:25 pm

I enjoy an aro or two Jim.

In no paticular order, I've got these open at the moment; Firedance flake, Petersons Connoisseur's Choice, PS kentucky nougat, MacBaren vanilla flake.
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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:44 pm

I still smoke a bit of aromatics. Not nearly as much as I used to. Since I've become obsessed with burleys I don't have the taste for them as I once did. But occasionally... especially on special days, holidays, etc. To me, they are the perfect treat for special occasions.

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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:55 pm

Always liked Cap'n Black White, but its been a long time. The Boswell aromatics are good, too. Christmas Cookie was one I especially enjoyed.

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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:24 pm

In addition to the Lakelands, I enjoy GH's Rum Flake. In the 70s-90s, I mostly smoked Captain Black and other US OTC aros, but they disagree with my tongue since I've returned, even if I keep trying one now and again.
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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:50 pm

Peritti's Thanksgiving blend is pretty much my only aro. Tried the GLP Virginia Cream but it got strident.

Oh wait, Uhle's #255 figures into the equation occasionally. It's what my late Pap smoked exclusively, and I always figured if it was good enough for Pap it was good enough for me.

Sammy G's Fire Dance has also been known as an occasional dalliance, when I want a change of pace. Also their Chocolate Flake. But these are very occasional.

Never found a Vanilla or Cherry I could get on with. Like tasting chemicals or soapy.

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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:12 pm

Yah, I like aromatics just fine. They just don't figure prominently in my rotation.
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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:51 pm

Years ago I smoked far more aromatics than I've done in the past 12 plus years. Years ago my go to blend was Captain Black & White original. Now a days I'm very much into some of Dan's tobacco aromatics. Especially Dan tobacco's Blue Note. I use Lane BC-A for blending. I've smoked the number ONE aromatic sold today...1-Q, don't care for it at all. Dries out my mouth.... scratch††I never enjoyed SWR but I've tried and have some SWR-A in a Mason jar and find myself smoking it once in a while.†

Almost forgot one of my favorite aromatics... I R Three Star Blue...try this fine aromatic for yourself!!



KEEP ON PUFFING WHATEVER YOU ENJOY!!!


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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:54 pm

I'll enjoy some Bob's Chocolate Flake or The Mayor's Chocolate Flake on occasion. Other than that/them, I'm not an aro person!! cheers FTRPLT
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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:44 pm

Back when I started smoking, I smoked a lot of different Aro's as most of us do when starting out. The one I used to smoke the most of was IR's Three-Star Blue. Then I was introduced to 759 and straight Va's and no more Aro's for me !! I haven't had a bowl of an Aro in probably 30 years !! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:12 am

I'm new to this, and haven't been able to appreciate an aromatic blend yet.

The very first tobacco I smoked was Captain Black White from a cob, and I of course butchered it horribly and it bit me fierce. I went back to it with more experience, and while it didn't bite this time, I couldn't enjoy it. There's a real artificial sweetener flavor there for me that I don't like. Same with Lane 1Q. I appreciated the 1Q being dryer, but the flavor was still, to me, weird. There was no blend, if that makes sense. It was as if the flavor of the vanilla was somehow sitting on top of the tobacco, like a slick of oil on some water. There was no happy marriage of tastes.

My great uncle was an avid piper, but gave it up later in life. I only took up the hobby myself this year, after he passed, so I can't ask him anything, sadly. Whatever it was he smoked smelled great, but it wasn't fruity, or even vanilla, really. Maybe a rum. What were the big aros in the 50s-80s?
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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:55 am

Dorchester wrote:
I'm new to this, and haven't been able to appreciate an aromatic blend yet.

The very first tobacco I smoked was Captain Black White from a cob, and I of course butchered it horribly and it bit me fierce. I went back to it with more experience, and while it didn't bite this time, I couldn't enjoy it. There's a real artificial sweetener flavor there for me that I don't like. Same with Lane 1Q. I appreciated the 1Q being dryer, but the flavor was still, to me, weird. There was no blend, if that makes sense. It was as if the flavor of the vanilla was somehow sitting on top of the tobacco, like a slick of oil on some water. There was no happy marriage of tastes.

My great uncle was an avid piper, but gave it up later in life. I only took up the hobby myself this year, after he passed, so I can't ask him anything, sadly. Whatever it was he smoked smelled great, but it wasn't fruity, or even vanilla, really. Maybe a rum. What were the big aros in the 50s-80s?

60s-80s, the various Captain Black blends, the Amphora blends, and the various Borkum Riffs, along side the various earlier hold-overs (Rum & Maple, Field & Stream etc.). There would also be the less-flavored 'Codger Blends' -- whereas the American & Scandinavian aro blends had a lot of (or were mostly) Cavendish, the Codger blends were generally more Burley-based (I know, vast over-simplifications), blends like Prince Albert, Carter Hall, Kentucky Club, Edgeworth, Sir Walter Raleigh, Briggs, et al. A few also had touches of Latakia (Walnut, Revelation, Country Doctor etc.) with or without bits of VA and/or Perique, and some could be placed in any of the above (flavored Cavendish & Burley, a touch of Perique), like Bourbon Street, London Dock, Barking Dog, and so forth.
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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:49 am

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..60s-80s, the various Captain Black blends, the Amphora blends, and the various Borkum Riffs, along side the various earlier hold-overs (Rum & Maple, Field & Stream etc.). There would also be the less-flavored 'Codger Blends' -- whereas the American & Scandinavian aro blends had a lot of (or were mostly) Cavendish, the Codger blends were generally more Burley-based (I know, vast over-simplifications), blends like Prince Albert, Carter Hall, Kentucky Club, Edgeworth, Sir Walter Raleigh, Briggs, et al. †A few also had touches of Latakia (Walnut, Revelation, Country Doctor etc.) with or without bits of VA and/or Perique, and some could be placed in any of the above (flavored Cavendish & Burley, a touch of Perique), like Bourbon Street, London Dock, Barking Dog, and so forth.

Laughing Great response, Doc. I can remember when Borkum Riff was hot, in more ways than one. And Bourbon Street was Bond Street before they got sued. I can't remember disliking any of those mentioned, once you got used to the taste, which could be horrible at first light. I loved Kentucky Club Mixture, hardly a "natural" taste. The only one I could never tolerate was Paladin Black Cherry, even though some pipesters swore by it if mixed in proper proportions with Granger or something. I've never quite understood the "chemical taste" epithet. What chemical are people alluding to? Often it's just booze, like the liqueurs in SWR Aro. I have a list somewhere (I think it's in an old Pipesmoker's Ephemeris) of all the stuff they used for pipe tobacco flavorings. Wish I could reproduce it here. I don't remember anything alarming. Exotic, sometimes, but not alarming.
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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:54 am

Richard Burley wrote:
DrT999 wrote:
..60s-80s, the various Captain Black blends, the Amphora blends, and the various Borkum Riffs, along side the various earlier hold-overs (Rum & Maple, Field & Stream etc.). There would also be the less-flavored 'Codger Blends' -- whereas the American & Scandinavian aro blends had a lot of (or were mostly) Cavendish, the Codger blends were generally more Burley-based (I know, vast over-simplifications), blends like Prince Albert, Carter Hall, Kentucky Club, Edgeworth, Sir Walter Raleigh, Briggs, et al. †A few also had touches of Latakia (Walnut, Revelation, Country Doctor etc.) with or without bits of VA and/or Perique, and some could be placed in any of the above (flavored Cavendish & Burley, a touch of Perique), like Bourbon Street, London Dock, Barking Dog, and so forth.

Laughing Great response, Doc. I can remember when Borkum Riff was hot, in more ways than one. And Bourbon Street was Bond Street before they got sued. I can't remember disliking any of those mentioned, once you got used to the taste, which could be horrible at first light. I loved Kentucky Club Mixture, hardly a "natural" taste. The only one I could never tolerate was Paladin Black Cherry, even though some pipesters swore by it if mixed in proper proportions with Granger or something. I've never quite understood the "chemical taste" epithet. What chemical are people alluding to? Often it's just booze, like the liqueurs in SWR Aro. I have a list somewhere (I think it's in an old Pipesmoker's Ephemeris) of all the stuff they used for pipe tobacco flavorings. Wish I could reproduce it here. I don't remember anything alarming. Exotic, sometimes, but not alarming.

Richard,

For me, the best comparison is Sweet and Low. It just strikes my brain as "wrong" tasting. I have come to this thread, however, to absorb the wisdom of my pipe elders. I might also be puffing too hard. Do you guys smoke aromatics differently?
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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:17 pm

Richard Burley wrote:
DrT999 wrote:
..60s-80s, the various Captain Black blends, the Amphora blends, and the various Borkum Riffs, along side the various earlier hold-overs (Rum & Maple, Field & Stream etc.). There would also be the less-flavored 'Codger Blends' -- whereas the American & Scandinavian aro blends had a lot of (or were mostly) Cavendish, the Codger blends were generally more Burley-based (I know, vast over-simplifications), blends like Prince Albert, Carter Hall, Kentucky Club, Edgeworth, Sir Walter Raleigh, Briggs, et al. †A few also had touches of Latakia (Walnut, Revelation, Country Doctor etc.) with or without bits of VA and/or Perique, and some could be placed in any of the above (flavored Cavendish & Burley, a touch of Perique), like Bourbon Street, London Dock, Barking Dog, and so forth.

Laughing Great response, Doc. I can remember when Borkum Riff was hot, in more ways than one. And Bourbon Street was Bond Street before they got sued. I can't remember disliking any of those mentioned, once you got used to the taste, which could be horrible at first light. I loved Kentucky Club Mixture, hardly a "natural" taste. The only one I could never tolerate was Paladin Black Cherry, even though some pipesters swore by it if mixed in proper proportions with Granger or something. I've never quite understood the "chemical taste" epithet. What chemical are people alluding to? Often it's just booze, like the liqueurs in SWR Aro. I have a list somewhere (I think it's in an old Pipesmoker's Ephemeris) of all the stuff they used for pipe tobacco flavorings. Wish I could reproduce it here. I don't remember anything alarming. Exotic, sometimes, but not alarming.

I've heard that about Bourbon/Bond Street, but I also see that Bourbon Street is listed on Tobacco Reviews as having Latakia & Perique and Bond Street doesn't list them. Of course, brands switched producers a few times, so maybe the version that was renamed had dropped Latakia & Perique by then.
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PostSubject: Re: Who Likes Aromatics?   Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:36 pm

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Richard Burley wrote:
DrT999 wrote:
..60s-80s, the various Captain Black blends, the Amphora blends, and the various Borkum Riffs, along side the various earlier hold-overs (Rum & Maple, Field & Stream etc.). There would also be the less-flavored 'Codger Blends' -- whereas the American & Scandinavian aro blends had a lot of (or were mostly) Cavendish, the Codger blends were generally more Burley-based (I know, vast over-simplifications), blends like Prince Albert, Carter Hall, Kentucky Club, Edgeworth, Sir Walter Raleigh, Briggs, et al. †A few also had touches of Latakia (Walnut, Revelation, Country Doctor etc.) with or without bits of VA and/or Perique, and some could be placed in any of the above (flavored Cavendish & Burley, a touch of Perique), like Bourbon Street, London Dock, Barking Dog, and so forth.

Laughing Great response, Doc. I can remember when Borkum Riff was hot, in more ways than one. And Bourbon Street was Bond Street before they got sued. I can't remember disliking any of those mentioned, once you got used to the taste, which could be horrible at first light. I loved Kentucky Club Mixture, hardly a "natural" taste. The only one I could never tolerate was Paladin Black Cherry, even though some pipesters swore by it if mixed in proper proportions with Granger or something. I've never quite understood the "chemical taste" epithet. What chemical are people alluding to? Often it's just booze, like the liqueurs in SWR Aro. I have a list somewhere (I think it's in an old Pipesmoker's Ephemeris) of all the stuff they used for pipe tobacco flavorings. Wish I could reproduce it here. I don't remember anything alarming. Exotic, sometimes, but not alarming.

Richard,

For me, the best comparison is Sweet and Low. It just strikes my brain as "wrong" tasting. I have come to this thread, however, to absorb the wisdom of my pipe elders. I might also be puffing too hard. Do you guys smoke aromatics differently?

That depends on what you call an aromatic. I think Cavendish-based blends (as most American & Scandinavian aros are) burn hotter, and so must be puffed more gently. Tongue-burn comes from puffing too hard, and any blend be over-puffed and burn you. I think (others may disagree) that Cavendish-based blends are just easier to get that hot. There is also tongue-bite, which is your mouth's chemistry having a poor interaction with something in the blend, and puffing slower doesn't help much -- maybe a bit, but not much -- you'll just need to learn what works for you. (And, of course, sometimes any blend might bite, especially if you're dehydrated or after certain foods/drinks).

Sweet and very-flavored British blends (not limited to the floral Gawith Hoggarth Lakelands and herbal and sometimes also floral Sam Gawith Lakelands) are usually VA or VA/Burley blends and are smoked accordingly. I would recommend SG's Firedance (blackberry, brandy, vanilla) or GH Scotch Flake (chocolate/vanilla) as good examples or the non-Lakelands, GH Ennerdale or #7 Broken Flake for the GH-style, and SG's Grousemoor (Lemon Grass) or either Kendal Cream Flake (Tonquin -- a floral/vanilla taste to me) or Westmoreland (Tonquin + Latakia) for that style.
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