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Corncobcon

Corncobcon

Age : 69
Location : From the prarie of KS. to Lake of the Ozarks, MO.
Registration date : 2017-10-15

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PostSubject: Is there a list   Is there a list EmptyMon Jan 01, 2018 11:17 pm

Is there a list of tobaccos that will be discontinued.  I hear things about what is
going to be discontinued, but I get confused about all this and have a problem
with CRS.(Can't Remember Sh*t!)
Can anyone help with this?  I'd like to order some before they are gone.


Not the CRS problem! Laughing
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Ozark Wizard

Ozark Wizard

Age : 55
Location : Mark Twain National Forest, MO
Registration date : 2014-10-11

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a list   Is there a list EmptyMon Jan 01, 2018 11:43 pm

Someone around here started a list, but I CRS too, and I'm not sure if it went very far. If there is anything you can think of specifically you wonder about, you can check Tobaccoreviews.com and do a search, look for the sorting tabs and pull up the oldest ones. Of course, with all the ambiguity in the new regulations, it's tough to say what might stay or go......
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Richard Burley

Richard Burley

Location : North Coast NY
Registration date : 2011-04-09

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a list   Is there a list EmptyTue Jan 02, 2018 12:08 am

This is about as far as a list got on this forum. There might be something useful to you here, but it's incomplete (not that there's a complete list anywhere) and the OP is off in Kenya or someplace converting the heathen. Glad I like the oldies mostly anyhow. The Pease blends, sadly, are an exception and I regard that as a heavy hit--if this thing ever actually happens.

http://www.brothersofbriar.com/t32890-pipe-tobacco-from-2007-onward
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Ozark Wizard

Ozark Wizard

Age : 55
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PostSubject: Re: Is there a list   Is there a list EmptyTue Jan 02, 2018 12:19 am

Yup, that's the one I was thinking of..... Thanks Richard!
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Corncobcon

Corncobcon

Age : 69
Location : From the prarie of KS. to Lake of the Ozarks, MO.
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PostSubject: Re: Is there a list   Is there a list EmptyTue Jan 02, 2018 6:44 pm

Thanks for the link, it is helpful.
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monbla256

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Age : 73
Location : DFW Metroplex, Texas
Registration date : 2012-01-15

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a list   Is there a list EmptyTue Jan 02, 2018 8:48 pm

Call the FDA, they are the ones that have made the list !! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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smoker13



Age : 64
Location : Western Mass
Registration date : 2016-01-12

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a list   Is there a list EmptyTue Jan 09, 2018 1:57 pm

What a stupid tempest in a teapot the FDA has started! Why should such a grand bunch of folk such as pipe smokers be deprived of some of their pleasures?
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Richard Burley

Richard Burley

Location : North Coast NY
Registration date : 2011-04-09

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a list   Is there a list EmptyTue Jan 09, 2018 2:09 pm

smoker13 wrote:
What a stupid tempest in a teapot the FDA has started!  Why should such a grand bunch of folk such as pipe smokers be deprived of some of their pleasures?

Because smug, meddling busy-bodies are backed by more guns than pipe smokers, singly or as a group. It's the only reason.
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Fight'n Hampsters

Fight'n Hampsters

Age : 41
Location : Kentucky
Registration date : 2011-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a list   Is there a list EmptyTue Jan 09, 2018 6:32 pm

Ozark Wizard wrote:
If there is anything you can think of specifically you wonder about, you can check Tobaccoreviews.com and do a search, look for the sorting tabs and pull up the oldest ones.  

+1

And remember, It had to be in production in Feb of 2007.  Meaning, an old blend that has been brought back recently would not count. (John Cotton, War Horse, etc)
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smoker13



Age : 64
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PostSubject: Re: Is there a list   Is there a list EmptyTue Jan 09, 2018 11:59 pm

WHAT is so magical/evil about the year 2007? It all seems SO arbitrary and SILLY!
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Fight'n Hampsters

Fight'n Hampsters

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a list   Is there a list EmptyWed Jan 10, 2018 11:49 am

smoker13 wrote:
WHAT is so magical/evil about the year 2007? It all seems SO arbitrary and SILLY!

Not completely sure. I think it might have been around the time that legislation was passed allowing the FDA to regulate tobacco but they didn't get thier act together until '16 or so. I believe they are making it retro active to that date. Again, I could be completely wrong and probably am. Wink
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GrampaGrossbart

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Location : The Mountains
Registration date : 2012-03-28

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a list   Is there a list EmptyWed Jan 10, 2018 10:22 pm

Fight'n Hampsters wrote:
smoker13 wrote:
WHAT is so magical/evil about the year 2007? It all seems SO arbitrary and SILLY!

Not completely sure.  I think it might have been around the time that legislation was passed allowing the FDA to regulate tobacco but they didn't get thier act together until '16 or so.  I believe they are making it retro active to that date.  Again, I could be completely wrong and probably am. Wink

I seem to remember someone--PB?--pointing out that a 2007 date would effectively put the kibosh on almost all ecigarette juice save that made by Big Tobacco, giving credence to the theory that this is all actually designed to hamstring the independent ecig industry and pipe tobacco is just collateral damage...
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blendtobac



Registration date : 2010-03-08

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a list   Is there a list EmptyThu Jan 11, 2018 11:50 am

Luckily, the "drop-dead" date has been pushed to August of 2021, so everything will be okay until then. We're hoping that the proposal to push the grandfather date to 8/8/16 will go through and everything should be safe.

Russ
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ftrplt

ftrplt

Age : 72
Location : Split between Raleigh, NC and OKC, OK
Registration date : 2007-12-15

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a list   Is there a list EmptyThu Jan 11, 2018 1:21 pm

blendtobac wrote:
Luckily, the "drop-dead" date has been pushed to August of 2021, so everything will be okay until then. We're hoping that the proposal to push the grandfather date to 8/8/16 will go through and everything should be safe.

Russ

Thank you, kind sir, for the great news!!!! Just made my day!!! Many other's day also, I'm sure!! cheers cheers cheers FTRPLT
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blendtobac



Registration date : 2010-03-08

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a list   Is there a list EmptyThu Jan 11, 2018 1:31 pm

ftrplt wrote:
blendtobac wrote:
Luckily, the "drop-dead" date has been pushed to August of 2021, so everything will be okay until then. We're hoping that the proposal to push the grandfather date to 8/8/16 will go through and everything should be safe.

Russ

Thank you, kind sir, for the great news!!!! Just made my day!!! Many other's day also, I'm sure!! cheers cheers cheers FTRPLT

My pleasure! I've probably spent more than 100 hours dealing with the deeming regulations, and we still have no idea what the final fallout will be, but I'll try to keep people updated as we learn more.

Russ
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Richard Burley

Richard Burley

Location : North Coast NY
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PostSubject: Re: Is there a list   Is there a list EmptyThu Jan 11, 2018 2:00 pm

We should deem the FDA supererogatory. I'd call them evil, actually, and the case can be made. I defer, however, to current forum restrictions on political and religious to-and-fros.
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