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GeoffC

GeoffC

Age : 52
Location : North Carolina
Registration date : 2011-10-23

PostSubject: I hate my spine . . .    Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:14 pm

Back in 2003 I ruptured a disc. †I would not wish that on my worst enemy. †18 months of pure pain. †Fast forward to 2017 and I tried to walk 8,000 steps a day to lose some weight. †1 month later I had no feeling below my left knee. † After going to the specialist for MRI and nerve mapping he told me I have degeneration in L5/S1. † Fusion was a 33% chance of making it better. † Those are crappy odds. † Sent me to the Physical Terrorist and after 2 sessions and making things worse I told him to take a hike.

So I don't do much anymore . . . last night for no reason I had muscle spasms and hit the relaxers last night and this morning. † Have not had to do that in a year. †I wish there was a new surgery that could solve the problem once and for all.

I suppose I am lucky. †In the local B&M I'm probably 4th in contest for worst back issues. †Top 2 are veterans so I shouldn't complain.

Thank for letting me vent here! † I suppose I should just pop and old tin and relax!

Cheers!

-g
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Ozark Wizard

Ozark Wizard

Age : 54
Location : Mark Twain National Forest, MO
Registration date : 2014-10-11

PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:35 pm

Preach brother. I'm already waaay bored with my current spinal situation. Being assured it's a new normal by practitioners. I drew new cards am working on raising the ante on a new new normal.
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GeoffC

GeoffC

Age : 52
Location : North Carolina
Registration date : 2011-10-23

PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:05 pm

Hoping down the road some new thing comes out to help us. My sister is a figure skater and 10+ years older. Her minuscus is trashed but they said they are going to hold off on surgery because an artificial minuscus is coming on the market. So just live on 15mg meloxicam and occasional 800mg metaxalone until one day they can fix it.

Not a fan of pain meds or muscle relaxers but take them when I cannot handle it. Meloxicam has been wonderful anti-inflammatory.
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Zanaspus

Zanaspus

Age : 56
Registration date : 2009-12-27

PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:09 pm

I feel ya brother. It could be worse, say, C4/C5 like mine. But it sucks just the same. Sad
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BloodWood

BloodWood

Age : 49
Location : Puyallup, WA
Registration date : 2018-12-07

PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:30 pm

There are few physical pains, in the chronic category, more hurtful than spinal issues.
My poor mother suffered for a few years before sending in 'Bob the Builder' to screw and fuse a few discs together.
The procedure remedied her pain 100%.
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Zanaspus

Zanaspus

Age : 56
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PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:41 pm

BloodWood wrote:
There are few physical pains, in the chronic category, more hurtful than spinal issues.
My poor mother suffered for a few years before sending in 'Bob the Builder' to screw and fuse a few discs together.
The procedure remedied her pain 100%.

Yeah. The downside with the cervical spine is if the doctor screws up just a little bit, you end up breathing through a straw.
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BloodWood

BloodWood

Age : 49
Location : Puyallup, WA
Registration date : 2018-12-07

PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:23 pm

True, no surgery is without risk.
With ACDF surgery having a 93% - 100% success rate her decision was worth the risk (her words).
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GeoffC

GeoffC

Age : 52
Location : North Carolina
Registration date : 2011-10-23

PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:29 pm

BloodWood wrote:
There are few physical pains, in the chronic category, more hurtful than spinal issues.
My poor mother suffered for a few years before sending in 'Bob the Builder' to screw and fuse a few discs together.
The procedure remedied her pain 100%.

Specialist said 33% chance better, 33% chance no change and 33% worse. †Not liking the odds. Glad it helped her!!!


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DoverPipes

DoverPipes

Age : 50
Location : HUDSON VALLEY NY
Registration date : 2009-05-24

PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:29 pm

I am right there with you Brother!Mad
Some of my Brothers here on B.O.B. are familiar with my situation. Hence, my recent absences from the forums.

I have been through two surgeries already this year and I am slated for a third in January. Eight years ago, while on duty for a "Major Federal Law Enforcement Agency" †Wink , in full uniform with my rack and rear lights flashing on my transport vehicle, I was run over by an elderly woman who essentially fled the scene and left me for dead. Thus began my eight year struggle with the Federal Government and the U.S. Dept. of Labor's "Office of Workman's Compensation Programs" (OWCP).

I suffered damage to my neck C4-C7 and my lower back L4, L5, S1. I have had fusions and hardware installed in both my neck and lower back. In addition to that, I also suffered a double hernia (Ventral & Umbilical) as well as a torn abdominal muscle due to the weakened condition of my back.

I have been doing physical therapy on and off for the last eight years while Workman's Comp jerked me and my case around. I began physical therapy again after my lower back surgery in July of this year. I have completed approximately thirty sessions thus far and I am still slated for another fifteen currently.

My Spinal Surgeon just informed me that one of the screws in my lower back has "snapped off at the screw head" and it will need to be removed and replaced. I am trying to be very careful due to the current situation. If I break the screw opposite the broken one, I can cause further damage that will require a more extensive surgery to replace all of the hardware! affraid

As far as the pain goes, I am in constant pain. The Spinal Surgeon believes the nerve damage will be permanent in my left leg. I currently walk with a pronounced limp and slight foot drag. He will be sending me to a "Pain Management Specialist" in a few weeks.

Due to the nature of my employment, the Government has notified me that I was just put on a "Opiate Tracking Program" to monitor how many opiates I have received thus far in addition to my state health department's monitoring program. I haven't taken any opiates since the surgery in July. Not a huge fan of how they make me feel and I only take them after surgeries for the shortest possible duration.

I am currently on Neurontin aka Gabapentin for nerve spasms / pain at night. At night, I have excruciating pain right before bedtime. Sleeping has been a problem for several years before the surgeries. Now, it has become progressively worse. The Neurontin does help and allows me to get a "decent" sleep (4-6 hours).

The last couple of years have been very rough for me. I am coming to the realization that my thirty year Law Enforcement Career will most likely, be coming to an end. These injuries stopped me from being an Instructor with my agency. I loved teaching "hand to hand techniques" and "Officer Survival" as well as working on the Firearms Range and later, becoming the Supervisor / Acting Chief of both units that provided the training. I have, frankly, become quite bitter over the entire situation despite being told that "I will be better off in the end" once I retire. I wanted to go out on my own terms, but I know deep down, that I will never be physically able to do what I used to do and I'm not getting any younger.

When I say "I feel your pain", I truly mean it!
I hope you find the right solution for your situation and be sure to follow your Doctor's instructions "to the letter." I wish you improved health and much success with your treatment plan. Make sure to speak to several Spinal Surgeons before you pick the one that will be right for you.

Feel better and keep your pipe lit!!! - Sean aka "DoverPipes"
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GeoffC

GeoffC

Age : 52
Location : North Carolina
Registration date : 2011-10-23

PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:41 pm

DoverPipes wrote:
I am right there with you Brother!Mad
Some of my Brothers here on B.O.B. are familiar with my situation. Hence, my recent absences from the forums.

I have been through two surgeries already this year and I am slated for a third in January. Eight years ago, while on duty for a "Major Federal Law Enforcement Agency" †Wink , in full uniform with my rack and rear lights flashing on my transport vehicle, I was run over by an elderly woman who essentially fled the scene and left me for dead. Thus began my eight year struggle with the Federal Government and the U.S. Dept. of Labor's "Office of Workman's Compensation Programs" (OWCP).

I suffered damage to my neck C4-C7 and my lower back L4, L5, S1. I have had fusions and hardware installed in both my neck and lower back. In addition to that, I also suffered a double hernia (Ventral & Umbilical) as well as a torn abdominal muscle due to the weakened condition of my back.

I have been doing physical therapy on and off for the last eight years while Workman's Comp jerked me and my case around. I began physical therapy again after my lower back surgery in July of this year. I have completed approximately thirty sessions thus far and I am still slated for another fifteen currently.

My Spinal Surgeon just informed me that one of the screws in my lower back has "snapped off at the screw head" and it will need to be removed and replaced. I am trying to be very careful due to the current situation. If I break the screw opposite the broken one, I can cause further damage that will require a more extensive surgery to replace all of the hardware! affraid

As far as the pain goes, I am in constant pain. The Spinal Surgeon believes the nerve damage will be permanent in my left leg. I currently walk with a pronounced limp and slight foot drag. He will be sending me to a "Pain Management Specialist" in a few weeks.

Due to the nature of my employment, the Government has notified me that I was just put on a "Opiate Tracking Program" to monitor how many opiates I have received thus far in addition to my state health department's monitoring program. I haven't taken any opiates since the surgery in July. Not a huge fan of how they make me feel and I only take them after surgeries for the shortest possible duration.

I am currently on Neurontin aka Gabapentin for nerve spasms / pain at night. At night, I have excruciating pain right before bedtime. Sleeping has been a problem for several years before the surgeries. Now, it has become progressively worse. The Neurontin does help and allows me to get a "decent" sleep (4-6 hours).

The last couple of years have been very rough for me. I am coming to the realization that my thirty year Law Enforcement Career will most likely, be coming to an end. These injuries stopped me from being an Instructor with my agency. I loved teaching "hand to hand techniques" and "Officer Survival" as well as working on the Firearms Range and later, becoming the Supervisor / Acting Chief of both units that provided the training. I have, frankly, become quite bitter over the entire situation despite being told that "I will be better off in the end" once I retire. I wanted to go out on my own terms, but I know deep down, that I will never be physically able to do what I used to do and I'm not getting any younger.

When I say "I feel your pain", I truly mean it!
I hope you find the right solution for your situation and be sure to follow your Doctor's instructions "to the letter." I wish you improved health and much success with your treatment plan. Make sure to speak to several Spinal Surgeons before you pick the one that will be right for you.

Feel better and keep your pipe lit!!! - Sean aka "DoverPipes"

Oh man that is rough! I did gabapentin last year and helped. No perm nerve damage so I'm lucky there. I feel the same frustration that it is altering my life like you but not to that level. 2 of my smoking buddies are on full disability, both military. Hearing their VA stories will make anyone's blood boil.

When I ruptured the disc in 2003 I was in a highly stressful job. They had me on Skelaktin and Vioxx. One night I had chest pains. Got up, dropped a BC under my tongue and went to bed. Didn't care if I woke up. 18 months of that and it finally was manageable. 2 months later Merck was sued because vioxx was causing heart attacks. At least in that regard I'm in good shape. Had that all checked out last few years.


Like I said, I have no room to complain. I know it can definitely can be worse.
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GeoffC

GeoffC

Age : 52
Location : North Carolina
Registration date : 2011-10-23

PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:31 am

So I saw an old co-worker post on Instagram. He use to race bicycles but due to spine problems had to give it up. His recent picture he looked great and I asked him how he could workout with his spinal condition. He said he has to very careful with his spine, no dead lifts, no squats. This is the program he followed https://www.foundationtraining.com/

May give it a shot since there isn't much else I can do except maybe 1 mile of walking. If I do 3 miles a day I'll lose feeling below the left knee.
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Blackhorse

Age : 71
Location : Portland, Oregon Area
Registration date : 2010-10-23

PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:52 pm

Thank God my spine is OK. †Well, no real spinal issues per se...just spinal arthritis, which is minor compared with the life altering problems related by others here. †Itís actually kind of like a ďPOP goes the weaselĒ kidís toy...going off on a cyclic and unpredictable basis...nerves that branch off the spine being affected here and there, on and off. †Itís like: POP! †The left side of my face goes off line. †BING! †The inside of my left knee throbs like crazy if I sit in such and such position for longer than 30 minutes. ZING! †The three middle toes on my right foot go numb. †Seems like itís mostly sensation issues as opposed to loss of control. NSIDs help a little. †Sometimes. †Like I said, it seems trivial compared to others here. †Itís more like a grab bag of festive but less than exciting mini quakes as opposed the the San Andreas fault going off. †Just getting old crap.

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DoverPipes

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Age : 50
Location : HUDSON VALLEY NY
Registration date : 2009-05-24

PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:55 am

Wish me luck, surgery number three, will be this coming Wednesday. affraid Evil or Very Mad affraid Evil or Very Mad affraid Evil or Very Mad
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D.L.Ruth

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Age : 37
Location : NC
Registration date : 2018-10-03

PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:58 am

Good luck, hope it all goes well. Surgery is always an uncomfortable and scary thing.
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DoverPipes

DoverPipes

Age : 50
Location : HUDSON VALLEY NY
Registration date : 2009-05-24

PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:03 am

D.L.Ruth wrote:
Good luck, hope it all goes well. Surgery is always an uncomfortable and scary thing.

Sadly, I'm used to it....... Mad
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Blackhorse

Age : 71
Location : Portland, Oregon Area
Registration date : 2010-10-23

PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:00 am

DoverPipes wrote:
Wish me luck, surgery number three, will be this coming Wednesday. affraid Evil or Very Mad affraid Evil or Very Mad affraid Evil or Very Mad


Of course, all of us here hope for the very best outcome for this and any other procedure you may need.

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GeoffC

GeoffC

Age : 52
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PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:44 am

DoverPipes wrote:
Wish me luck, surgery number three, will be this coming Wednesday. affraid Evil or Very Mad affraid Evil or Very Mad affraid Evil or Very Mad

Good luck my friend! I hope you find relief!
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DoverPipes

DoverPipes

Age : 50
Location : HUDSON VALLEY NY
Registration date : 2009-05-24

PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:16 am

Thanks, Gents Exclamation
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ftrplt

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PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:57 pm

DP, I'm pulling for you, ol' buddy!!! Fingers crossed for mucho success on Wednesday!!! cheers FTRPLT
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History Prof 1861

History Prof 1861

Age : 40
Location : Cincinnati Ohio
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PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:47 pm

DoverPipes,

I hope your surgery is successful and your back issues heal up quickly

Mike
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Stick

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PostSubject: Re: I hate my spine . . .    Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:09 pm

Sorry to learn of this, Geoff, and all fellow back pain sufferers. I'm not a back specialist and had never suffered but I have great faith in remaining as active as possible, if at all possible. Hope things improve soon...
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