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PostSubject: Tartans & Clan   Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:16 pm

I think I may have found a BoB who is interested in tartans and clans Laughing .

Being originally from Nova Scotia (New Scotland)... in the past number of years we have had "gathering of the clans"... one year in Scotland and the next in Nova Scotia... Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:26 pm

Awesome! I've never been to Nova Scotia, but my parents used to vacation there frequently and report it is beautiful. I attended Military Tattoo in 1985 in Edinburgh, Scotland, a truly glorious event held annually.

http://www.edintattoo.co.uk/

I wear the MacDougall tartan my maternal grandmother was a McDowell. I have family lineage to many Scots clans, some of which put me at 'odds' with myself.




Meself & my Wife Stella

The single greatest resource I'm aware of on the internet may be found at:

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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:32 pm

Great pic... I've never been to Scotland Sad .... But I be a Clan Cumming, Shaw, imposed upon by the the Donald's Evil or Very Mad . My wife is a McNeil... she claims Irish but you can never trust the Irish....

I'll see if I can get a pic of the Nova Scotia tartan...
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:39 pm




I'm a slow typer and find it hard to get images up...

This is the Nova Scotia Tartan
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:42 pm

Yikes... I found this on when googling

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Tartan centre of copyright lawsuit
Last Updated: Monday, February 26, 2007 | 8:55 AM AT
CBC News
A tartan design with Nova Scotia roots is the subject of a lawsuit in the United States.

In 1964, Sol Gilis of Yarmouth designed the tartan with the state of Maine in mind. Light blue for the sky, dark blue for the water, green for the forest, and a red bloodline for the people of Maine.

Jane Holmes of Plymouth, Maine, says she acquired the rights to the tartan design in 1993, and since then has overseen the manufacturing of the tartan cloth, which she has made in Scotland.

Holmes is suing U.S. retailer L.L. Bean for using the design in its Americana Tartan Shirt, claiming the company did not have permission to use it.

L.L. Bean is defending its use of the design, arguing the tartan is in the public domain because it is widely recognized as the state tartan of Maine.

Holmes claims that's not the case and says Gilis might have been inspired by Maine when he made the tartan, but only she has the right to use the pattern.

Holmes wants U.S. District Court in Maine to award her damages and stop L.L. Bean from selling any items with the tartan design. L.L. Bean has until March 19 to respond to the lawsuit in court.

Shocked Mad Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:44 pm

I'm a wee bit Scottish (just a dram on my father's side), affiliated with the Gunns. It's a weak connection, but I feel like I've earned with all the haggis I've eaten and Burns I've memorized. Plus, Dad's a piper, and I'm a drummer, so we have the bases covered.

I wear the Ancient version of the Gunn tartan. (Fun fact: Even though Highlander is supposed to be about the McLeods, he wears Ancient Gunn, because it "reads" better on film.)

In my salad days, I wore my kilt and a Bonnie Prince Charlie jacket to my senior prom.
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:46 pm

I also have ties to Campbell, Ross, Ogilvie, and Elliot some being Highlanders, others Lowlanders and some Border clans. I guess my ancestors 'got around'

MacDougall lost much of their lands to the Campbells for backing John Comyn as legitimate heir to the Scottish thone who was killed On 10 February, 1306 at the altar in the Franciscan church in Dumfries, Scotland. The two contenders John Comyn and Robert the Bruce and their parties had met there. Soon after, Robert the Bruce is crowned at Scone on March 25, 1306!
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:53 pm

That's pretty cool Doc, great way to go to your High School Prom!

If you are NOT Scottish but would LIKE to be, check out this clan, they take ANYONE Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

The Glorious Clan MacDude

Their Clan Song:

Scotland's Depraved
Bring out the Whiskey, Mother,
I'm feeling frisky, Mother,
(chorus 1) Bring out the sheep for I'm so lonely tonight;
(alternatively: Bring me a sheep to keep me warm through the night)
Bring out the sheets of rubber,
Bring out the peanut butter,
(chorus 2) England's a beggar, but Scotland's depraved.

Bring out my favourite fellow,
Bring out the cherry jello
(chorus 1)
God knows I really wanna,
Bring out the greased Iguana
(chorus 2)

Bring out my little poochie,
We'll do the hootchie-cootchie
(chorus 1)
God knows I wanna disco,
Bring out the butter Crisco
(chorus 2)

Bring out the chimpanzees-es,
We'll give them our diseases
(chorus 1)
Bring out the platypuses,
They've got a thousand uses
(chorus 2)

Call out the Glasgow bobbies,
We'll teach them brand new hobbies
(chorus 1)
Dollies inflatable,
With morals debatable
(chorus 2)

Bring out a Bengal Lancer,
Dressed like a belly dancer
(chorus 1)
God knows I'm really randy,
Good thing I'm really handy
(chorus 2)

Bring out the chains and leather,
Bring out the ostrich feather,
(chorus 1)
Bring out my Uncle Neddie,
Clad in a tartan teddie
(chorus 2)

Swine, donkeys, sheep and cattle,
I'll make their jawbones rattle
(chorus 1)
I'm as horny as a klaxon,
I'll even take a Saxon
(chorus 2)
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:56 pm

kilted1 wrote:
I also have ties to Campbell, Ross, Ogilvie, and Elliot some being Highlanders, others Lowlanders and some Border clans. I guess my ancestors 'got around'

MacDougall lost much of their lands to the Campbells for backing John Comyn as legitimate heir to the Scottish thone who was killed On 10 February, 1306 at the altar in the Franciscan church in Dumfries, Scotland. The two contenders John Comyn and Robert the Bruce and their parties had met there. Soon after, Robert the Bruce is crowned at Scone on March 25, 1306!

Holy man you know your history Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:59 pm

cheers and what's the tune of the song??? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:00 am

Slow Puffs wrote:
My wife is a McNeil... she claims Irish but you can never trust the Irish....

I would have to agree but for this:

Scoti or Scotti (Old Irish Scot, modern Scottish Gaelic Sgaothaich) was the generic name given by the Romans to the Celtic Gaels who raided from Ireland. Some of them, from the Ulster Kingdom of Dál Riata, migrated to the Inner Hebrides, Clyde islands and Argyll, extending Dál Riata. In time the name became applied to all the people within this kingdom, hence the modern words Scot and Scotland. It is not believed that any Gaelic groups called themselves Scoti in ancient times, except when referring to themselves in Latin

Source well documented elsewhere!
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:02 am

Slow Puffs wrote:
cheers and what's the tune of the song??? Very Happy

Scotland The Brave Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:07 am

It is a common myth, mostly in America that the Scots and Irish don't get along or bitterly hate each other. The truth is somewhat different. For appropriate studies on the truth behind this 'myth' start your Googling with William of Orange. For the most part the Scots and Irish get along just fine!
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:11 am

kilted1 wrote:
It is a common myth, mostly in America that the Scots and Irish don't get along or bitterly hate each other. The truth is somewhat different. For appropriate studies on the truth behind this 'myth' start your Googling with William of Orange. For the most part the Scots and Irish get along just fine!

Yes, I tried an experiment and married an Irish lass... five children later... and 7 or 8 grandkids (that we know of)... seems to bear out your theory Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:21 am

kilted1 wrote:
Slow Puffs wrote:
cheers and what's the tune of the song??? Very Happy

Scotland The Brave Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

Well, I listen to Scotland the Brave a lot in what I do.... but never again with a straight face Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:26 am

Slow Puffs wrote:
kilted1 wrote:
Slow Puffs wrote:
cheers and what's the tune of the song??? Very Happy

Scotland The Brave Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

Well, I listen to Scotland the Brave a lot in what I do.... but never again with a straight face Laughing

You have NOT LIVED until you've seen this guy sing Scotland's Depraved LIVE!

Red McWilliams

He has been a personal friend of mine for almost 15 years, I brought a copy of Scotland's Depraved to a performance at The Tipperary Inn in Dallas one night for a joke, he performed it in the very next set, and it's been part of his gig ever since!

How can you go wrong with a guy who does a show like this?

Sunday February 15, 2009

Gung Haggis Fat Choy
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:15 am

Enjoyable reading and lots of smiles too! Thanks!

Not for sure if I'm Scot or Irish or both. I like Irish whiskey more than Scotch...so I lean in that direction. drunken

Another clan for the unaffiliated especially for those who like grits with their haggis is Clan McBubba

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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:22 am

Ol'Dawg wrote:
Enjoyable reading and lots of smiles too! Thanks!

Not for sure if I'm Scot or Irish or both. I like Irish whiskey more than Scotch...so I lean in that direction. drunken

Another clan for the unaffiliated especially for those who like grits with their haggis is Clan McBubba

Jim

You don't have to decide that Irish or Scot, except for those who are actually more Viking than anything else, the Scot's and Irish are mostly the same people.

Re-posting from earlier in the thread:

Scoti or Scotti (Old Irish Scot, modern Scottish Gaelic Sgaothaich) was the generic name given by the Romans to the Celtic Gaels who raided from Ireland. Some of them, from the Ulster Kingdom of Dál Riata, migrated to the Inner Hebrides, Clyde islands and Argyll, extending Dál Riata. In time the name became applied to all the people within this kingdom, hence the modern words Scot and Scotland. It is not believed that any Gaelic groups called themselves Scoti in ancient times, except when referring to themselves in Latin

Source well documented elsewhere!

I'll leave the rest of the research to your interest.
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:30 am

I'm just glad I'm Welsh & German & don't have to worry about kilts n such Very Happy .
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:34 pm

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I'm just glad I'm Welsh & German & don't have to worry about kilts n such Very Happy .

Nope, like the Irish and Scot you have to worry about 'The English' and being German, you need to worry about Bundhosen, Lederhosen and Plattlerhosen and such things Exclamation Seems the Germans wear 'funny clothing' too Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lederhosen

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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:41 pm

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EJinVA wrote:
I'm just glad I'm Welsh & German & don't have to worry about kilts n such Very Happy .

Nope, like the Irish and Scot you have to worry about 'The English' and being German, you need to worry about Bundhosen, Lederhosen and Plattlerhosen and such things Exclamation Seems the Germans wear 'funny clothing' too Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

Sorry I'm a little twisted lol!

We are all a bit twisted here! lol!

I was thinking of early germans:

"Germanic warriors" as depicted in Philipp Clüver's Germania Antiqua (1616).
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PostSubject: Re: Tartans & Clan   Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:59 pm

I'm German, Scot, and Scotch-Irish according to ancestry, so I guess I'll have to wear lederhosen under my kilt!
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