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Tennessee Dave

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PostSubject: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 9:15 am

Just read on SF that it will be closing down at some unstated time in the future. I know some members here also post there. Interesting as it has been around a long time.
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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 9:53 am

Tennessee Dave wrote:
Just read on SF that it will be closing down at some unstated time in the future. I know some members here also post there. Interesting as it has been around a long time.


Do you have a link for where you read that? I am looking but not seeing.

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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 9:54 am

Carlos wrote:
Tennessee Dave wrote:
Just read on SF that it will be closing down at some unstated time in the future. I know some members here also post there. Interesting as it has been around a long time.


Do you have a link for where you read that? I am looking but not seeing.


Found it!

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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 10:01 am

I tried to join that forum, but never got the approval from the moderator who allegedly was out of town or out of the country or some other bs.

A friend of mine that claimed to be buddies with him allegedly contacted him and got my membership approved though I never recieved any kind of email about it nor was ever able to log in.

I can tell you from dealing with tech what they are going to say, " it probably went into your spam box" which I check daily since it absorbs more non-spam than spam.

I know many members here recommended that I join as there apparently is alot of tobacciana discussion there; I didn't have the heart to tell them that I have tried and failed.
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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 10:03 am

The reason I didn't see it sooner is, my start page over there is the recent threads. I was missing seeing it because of the activity.

I understand Ron's position. He has made a decision and due to his generous nature, he is giving notice. Now is the time for the fellows to look around for another forum, and there are several. Or take the opportunity for someone else to step up and create a new home. That's not always as easy as it seems.

I wish them all the best. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 10:05 am

I alway liked SF, although I'm generally a lurker. The only thing they have that BoB doesn't is the Actualarial Data. I have to find another source I guess.
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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 10:09 am

All forums have their difficulties with Spam, Bots, and potential members getting registered. I got an email a while back from one of the pipe makers about a fellow trying to register and not having any luck. We got his account set up. But I don't think he has ever logged in. I tried emailing and no answer there either. Sometimes I wonder just what happened, and why he's never shown up.

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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 1:03 pm

That's a bummer. I don't think I've ever posted there but it was a good source of information. Did they give a reason?

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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 1:28 pm

It appears the owner got tired of dealing with folks who had bad attitudes-he even mentioned getting death threats. pale earl
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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 1:31 pm

Jason,

Have you received any death threats? Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 1:43 pm

If that surprises y'all, maybe we should take a moment to think of the great people we have here. I haven't received death threats myself, only death wishes.

But, if someone can wish you dead, it's only a small jump to wanting to kill you.
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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 1:46 pm

Not yet! Laughing

I did make some folks mighty upset with me though that's why I handed it over to Dock... He's connected so he had the muscle to protect him. Laughing

(Disclaimer: I have no proof to support or detract from my claim that Dock is connected.)

Actually everyone has been very cool, just interfered with some friendships and that I didn't like.

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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 1:52 pm

jhuggett wrote:
Not yet! Laughing

just interfered with some friendships and that I didn't like.

Huh??? Shocked Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 2:03 pm

Sometimes you get stuck between two friends in an endless argument, you can't make them both happy. Anything personally towards me has been pretty easily resolved with either talking or time.

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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 2:09 pm

Well that just sucks! SF was a great place! It will be sorely missed....

I posted this over there a few mins ago...

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It's a real blow to be sure! SF has been a staple for so long. It seems almost surreal to think that it will be gone. It's just a bummer plain and simple! I will of course invite all of the members here to particiapate on my own forum, the Brothers of Briar where they will be welcomed with open arms. We're a much smaller group of course but what we lack in numbers we make up for in an abundance of good knowledgeable folks. If you haven't checked us out please feel free to do so...

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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 2:21 pm

I actually joined BOB before SF, but the more frequent posting on SF has led me to spend more time there than here. (The people here are just as wonderful as they are there. SF simply has more people posting regularly). I've mostly lurked here, but I must admit that my first thought on hearing about SF was, "Well, at least BOB is still going strong."

I've visited a number of pipe forums, and while all have something going for them, BOB and SF are the only ones I've found that have a sense of community strong enough that the atmosphere is more like a gathering of long-term friends than a bunch of semi-anonymous postings in cyberspace. Forums like that are rare, and while we can mourn SF's passing*, we should also be glad that there are still congenial forums like this one around.


*Probable passing. No one over there is giving up, and there may yet be some way to keep it going.
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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 2:43 pm

earl wrote:
It appears the owner got tired of dealing with folks who had bad attitudes-he even mentioned getting death threats. pale earl

Ron has/had a way of being way to sensitive to differing opinions or statement that
didn't reflect his proper British outlook.

I got banned there for just mentioning that a review of the rules would be helpful to a
newbie. Yes, there were a few scuffles with Ron or fireclown being really sensitive but
nothing that would warrant banning. Must've been a British thing. confused

I missed the place but it's still sad that Ron can't (won't ?) sell the site to someone else
to run. But then again if it were to be run as Ron et.al. ran it it's better that it will be......
gone.
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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 2:57 pm

Buck wrote:
earl wrote:
It appears the owner got tired of dealing with folks who had bad attitudes-he even mentioned getting death threats. pale earl

Ron has/had a way of being way to sensitive to differing opinions or statement that
didn't reflect his proper British outlook.


I missed the place but it's still sad that Ron can't (won't ?) sell the site to someone else
to run.

I'm not sure how running a forum works, but if it's his forum, then it's his forum to run or in this case close. I feel for the people that called that place home.

One thing about a group of people, whether online or RL, is that there will always be a *drut or two. What makes some places more appealing and successful than others is minimizing these druts. In this case, these people may have been in the background instead of out in the open for all too see like other forums, especially if he was receiving death threats.



*read it backwards....
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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 3:02 pm

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I actually joined BOB before SF, but the more frequent posting on SF has led me to spend more time there than here. (The people here are just as wonderful as they are there. SF simply has more people posting regularly). I've mostly lurked here, but I must admit that my first thought on hearing about SF was, "Well, at least BOB is still going strong."

I've visited a number of pipe forums, and while all have something going for them, BOB and SF are the only ones I've found that have a sense of community strong enough that the atmosphere is more like a gathering of long-term friends than a bunch of semi-anonymous postings in cyberspace. Forums like that are rare, and while we can mourn SF's passing*, we should also be glad that there are still congenial forums like this one around.


*Probable passing. No one over there is giving up, and there may yet be some way to keep it going.

My sentiments as well. I also joined BOB prior to discovering SF and tended to hang around there more due to greater activity. But both of these forums are fine places-the only 2 I like. earl
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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 3:40 pm

Number 6 wrote:
I actually joined BOB before SF, but the more frequent posting on SF has led me to spend more time there than here. (The people here are just as wonderful as they are there. SF simply has more people posting regularly). I've mostly lurked here, but I must admit that my first thought on hearing about SF was, "Well, at least BOB is still going strong."

I've visited a number of pipe forums, and while all have something going for them, BOB and SF are the only ones I've found that have a sense of community strong enough that the atmosphere is more like a gathering of long-term friends than a bunch of semi-anonymous postings in cyberspace. Forums like that are rare, and while we can mourn SF's passing*, we should also be glad that there are still congenial forums like this one around.


*Probable passing. No one over there is giving up, and there may yet be some way to keep it going.

I agree sorry to see it go and hope they can keep it going but this will give me a chance to spread out a bit to discover new places and meet new pipe smokers
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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 4:05 pm

I used to manage AOL forums for a living back in the early 2000's. Right from my home office. I managed three paid staff who worked in their homes and 250 volunteers who got free AOL accounts for helping. This was back when using chat rooms and message boards was HUGE and wildly popular. Getting folks to adhere to the TOS and handling the various complaints and what not was always the biggest headache. It certainly isn't an easy task, especially on a popular forum where hundreds of people participate. Whatever the reason SF is closing down for (I'm not a member, have no clue) I can imagine that if it is a big place one man would grow weary after a while if he didn't have a few folks to rely on. I wonder if he would sell it, like someone mentioned, to another user who has been there for a while and knows the forum? Better to make a few bucks from selling it than closing it outright and make nothing for all your effort.
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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 4:36 pm

TallSmoke-I know that Ron has said that he is not willing to consider donations to keep the place going. I know that several people over there have hinted that they would be willing to buy the forums, but not response from him yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 5:07 pm

Sad news, sure makes me happy though that we still have this fine place.
Thanks to all that make BOB a wonderful place to be....
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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 6:08 pm

Number 6 wrote:
TallSmoke-I know that Ron has said that he is not willing to consider donations to keep the place going. I know that several people over there have hinted that they would be willing to buy the forums, but not response from him yet.

Before I left Ron had to figure a way around Paypal to hide the fact that SF was about
tobacco. He did that but I don't know if it worked long term. The donations were
coming in but IMO I think that Ron's refusal to discuss ANYTHING political could have
been his downfall. We're all drowing in politics today cause it is so everywhere in our
lives.
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PostSubject: Re: Smokers Forum Closing Down   Fri May 08, 2009 6:34 pm

We shall inherit some new members nodoubt,seeing that this is a moderated
forum we shall be just fine.I can't see BoB disintegrating like ASP has over the
years.
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