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PostSubject: Michael Jackson Dead   Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:00 pm

I don't have any comments on it, just big news I suppose.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/michael-jackson-dead-20090626-cyjb.html

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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:45 pm

It certainly is big news, I'm sure it will dominate the 'news cycles' for days.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:54 pm

Yep. Sleep
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:12 pm

Who will be #3?
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:12 pm

kilted1 wrote:
It certainly is big news, I'm sure it will dominate the 'news cycles' for days.

We are definitely living in the American Idle age!

Just the same, it is a shame for anyone to die at such a young age.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:58 pm

LL wrote:
Who will be #3?
David Caradine, Ed McMahan, Farah Fawcett makes three. Oops, that makes four, forgot about Michael Jackson which started this thread.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:05 pm

Three decent humans and an 'it' cyclops
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:07 pm

He lived a bizarre life full of excesses,it wouldn't surprise me if there
was more to his demise than we are told.He is a prime example of a
mental case that had too much money,the Devil has been sighing for
his soul for some time,now he finally has it. Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:12 pm

Preliminary 'reports' are he OD'd on Demerol but that is from The Sun a British tabloid
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:23 pm

I posted this in the Rubber Room, but since we have duel threads going....




A little perspective my be appropriate here....

The Mans dead, and death is almost always a sad thing... BUT what gets my goat...

A lot of people died lately...

Leonard Pinkowski a Fire Fighter from Detriot, seems like a loss to his community... Leonard


Barbara Carnes Small, A little old Church lady, Wife,Mother,Grand Mother, Great Grandmother from South Carolina... she will be missed.Mrs Small


Derrick McGee, a faithful member of Antioch Baptist Church and Unity Outreach Ministries, secular employment found as a bartender at Riverwalk Casino near Vicksburg MS.... A Father Husband, and Son.. passed at age 38..Derrick


Ron Sawyer, 57, a resident of Dufur Tx.. A simple mechanic that like to hunt and fish... RIP buddy...
Ron



Nobody deemed them worthy off flashing their Obit around the globe. Few care that they are gone.. I will not waste my time weeping for a man that indeed had the silver spoon,the golden ring, and every other cliche .. but these people are different... RIP my fellow Americans.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:28 pm

I know that as an Admin here I should remain as impartial as possible on this subject but I just can't though. This "human being" was nothing more than a child molester who could also sing and dance! His death shouldn't be mourned any more or less than that of any man who chooses to abuse children! He was simply able to use his fortune to cover up the many abuses and silence his abusers!

Shame on the families who sold out their own flesh and blood to this despicible piece of trash. All of the appologists are already out in full force too likening him to John Lennon and Elvis! What a world we live in. What a world! I'm sure Matt Lauer will be doing an in depth expose about what a great man he was tomorrow on the Today show! Wanna bet that ol' Matt will omit some of the more sickening details of his bizare life?
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:30 pm

Dock my sentiments EXACTLY! I prefer instead to mourn the others PB mentioned, may they rest in peace
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:36 pm

LL wrote:
Who will be #3?

Fawcett = 70's Icon

Jackson = 80's Icon

??? = Somebody who was a star during the 90's had better be hiding in his closet tonight.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:25 pm

While I cannot put the man's life on a pedastal to point at for others to emulate I feel sorry for the man. What a sad life if you ask me.

So insecure that he had to dramatically alter his appearance.

So messed up in his thinking he didn't seem to be able to have normal relationships.

Probably had no childhood either rising to stardom so quickly.

I mourn for his family's loss. They lost a brother and son. His kids lost their dad.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:34 am

Regardless of what he may or may not have been, he is still one of God's creations. I for one will mourn the loss of life.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:37 am

Texas Outlaw wrote:
Regardless of what he may or may not have been, he is still one of God's creations. I for one will mourn the loss of life.

Agreed. For one, no one will ever truly know the life of this man. All I know is that he permanently affected my life through his most notable achievement; his music. Forever will those memories be in my mind, most of which are of great, great times, of which I am not about to give up. I know not of this man, and whos job is it to judge him for his actions of which we truly know nothing? Not ours. Those judgments take place in the court of a higher power. I for one mourn the loss of a man. I will not judge him for a life of hearsay.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:31 am

I heard he was about four hundred million in debt.
Must be hard to blow that much money. Rolling Eyes
Me, I was never a fan.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:26 am

How surprised we all are. Dethroned, topsy-turvy, all gone awry. A few small last steps, or intended, willed, desiring to make them, in thought at least, at best. Some distance from the proximate cause, so long ago. Trying to get back to a better time. Too late. Trying to get to a better place. Too far. The doctor came. Went. Serving the Customer. Medicine works. The good doctor, another purchase. Time to buy some respite. Just say yes, doctor. I have. Pain. Our friend. Pain, warning, saving, complex and penetrating partner in paralyzing possibilities, channeling, controlling, compelling, motivating. All kinds of pain, mixing well. Our enemy. Pain, can stop a walk, impair a crawl, and exhaust at the very thought of a move. Surprising power of pain. Life at one elbow. Death at another, and that one as well. Pain that penetrates both space, coursing all the byways of every branch to every end. And time, mixed with memories of pasts ever present, and futures that never came about. Pain of disappointment in relief. Pain of loss. Pain of what was done, and what was not. Holes of pain in the soul, poorly masked, until a final forget. The king is dead. Long live the king. Cold. Still. Wonder in Graceland.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:44 am

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How surprised we all are. Dethroned, topsy-turvy, all gone awry. A few small last steps, or intended, willed, desiring to make them, in thought at least, at best. Some distance from the proximate cause, so long ago. Trying to get back to a better time. Too late. Trying to get back to a better place. Too far. The doctor came. Went. Serving the Customer. Medicine works. The good doctor, another purchase. Time to buy some respite. Just say yes, doctor. I have. Pain. Our friend. Pain, warning, saving, complex and penetrating partner in paralyzing possibilities, channeling, controlling, compelling, motivating. All kinds of pain, mixing well. Our enemy. Pain, can stop a walk, impair a crawl, and exhaust at the very thought of a move. Surprising power of pain. Life at one elbow. Death at another, and that one as well. Pain that penetrates both space, coursing all the byways of every branch to every end. And time, mixed with memories of pasts ever present, and futures that never came about. Pain of disappointment in relief. Pain of loss. Pain of what was done, and what was not. Holes of pain in the soul, poorly masked, until a final forget. The king is dead. Long live the king. Cold. Still. Wonder in Graceland.

Uuuh....you okay this morning Herzl Question Might want to check what someone put in your pipe lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:26 pm

Herzl wrote:
How surprised we all are. Dethroned, topsy-turvy, all gone awry. A few small last steps, or intended, willed, desiring to make them, in thought at least, at best. Some distance from the proximate cause, so long ago. Trying to get back to a better time. Too late. Trying to get to a better place. Too far. The doctor came. Went. Serving the Customer. Medicine works. The good doctor, another purchase. Time to buy some respite. Just say yes, doctor. I have. Pain. Our friend. Pain, warning, saving, complex and penetrating partner in paralyzing possibilities, channeling, controlling, compelling, motivating. All kinds of pain, mixing well. Our enemy. Pain, can stop a walk, impair a crawl, and exhaust at the very thought of a move. Surprising power of pain. Life at one elbow. Death at another, and that one as well. Pain that penetrates both space, coursing all the byways of every branch to every end. And time, mixed with memories of pasts ever present, and futures that never came about. Pain of disappointment in relief. Pain of loss. Pain of what was done, and what was not. Holes of pain in the soul, poorly masked, until a final forget. The king is dead. Long live the king. Cold. Still. Wonder in Graceland.

I think that may be a tad too long to inscribe on the child molester's grave stone. Maybe if we just shorten it up a bit to"Our Enemy"???? Just a thought.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:31 pm

I wonder whether Bro Herzl is talking Elvis' Graceland or the one in South Africa Paul Simon sings about. Shocko Jacko's play land was called 'Neverland' if memory serves. Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:52 pm

Thank you for your concern. Currently, only Dark Flake Unscented is involved, and I am of sound mind. I am as impressed by the leering of some, posing for the photo of the justified 'strange fruit' hanging in the tree in Georgia, as you may be by the format and intent of this comment on death, and [prescription] drug addiction.

I'm not particularly talking about Michael Jackson. Unfortunately, I didn't care that he had died, one way or another. Unlike some here, I didn't know him well enough to judge him. Rush Limbaugh epitomizes those who are difficult for their doctor to say 'no' to. Elvis had his Dr. Nichopoulos. We all have some kind of pain, are human beings, as much as we'd like to find some explanation to the contrary, often sharing smug, and often unstated satisfaction in a deserved death.

When I think of Michael Jackson, Anna Nicole, and a variety of others, I feel compassion for their pain. A compassion granted to some and denied others in the commentary of the knowing. I'm talking about knowing death, being there in those last moments, and how we get there. I was talking about the parallel of Elvis, dying in his bathroom, Anna Nicole, David Carradine, and Michael Jackson. I'm talking about those who, in their efforts to mitigate their pain, including us with our pipes, are acting in ways that often hasten our demise. I'm talking about all of us as we find death.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:13 pm

Herzl wrote:
Thank you for your concern. Currently, only Dark Flake Unscented is involved, and I am of sound mind. I am as impressed by the leering of some, posing for the photo of the justified 'strange fruit' hanging in the tree in Georgia, as you may be by the format and intent of this comment on death, and [prescription] drug addiction.

I'm not particularly talking about Michael Jackson. Unfortunately, I didn't care that he had died, one way or another. Unlike some here, I didn't know him well enough to judge him. Rush Limbaugh epitomizes those who are difficult for their doctor to say 'no' to. Elvis had his Dr. Nichopoulos. We all have some kind of pain, are human beings, as much as we'd like to find some explanation to the contrary, often sharing smug, and often unstated satisfaction in a deserved death.

When I think of Michael Jackson, Anna Nicole, and a variety of others, I feel compassion for their pain. A compassion granted to some and denied others in the commentary of the knowing. I'm talking about knowing death, being there in those last moments, and how we get there. I was talking about the parallel of Elvis, dying in his bathroom, Anna Nicole, and Michael Jackson. I'm talking about those who, in their efforts to mitigate their pain, including us with our pipes, are acting in ways that often hasten our demise. I'm talking about all of us as we find death.

I'm of the mindset that there's a particularly vile place in hell set aside for those who abuse animals or kids! This sort of "person" deseves ZERO compassion from anyone weather he be an NFL player, a priest or a singer!
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:38 pm

I don't intend my 'compassion' to be misinterpreted. Perhaps I should care more than I do about him personally.
Danish_Pipe_Guy wrote:
I'm of the mindset that there's a particularly vile place in hell set aside for those who abuse animals or kids!
I empathize with your sentiments. I accede to my human satisfaction in the deaths of some. A notable televsion personality who is the face of prosecutorial misconduct was ill recently, and it is revealing that I had (secretely) hoped against her return to health. My bad. I would be satisfied that Michael Vick never make another penny above minimum wage. A fathomless source of personal pain is my neighbor's abuse of their dog, another story. Some deserve to die, I agree. My only reservation about the death penalty is that it is unevenly applied. I am not speaking to praise or justify Michael Jackson. Elvis stole everything he had from Chuck Berry, and expressed no appreciation. David Carradine stole everything he had from Bruce Lee. Was I glad that he died in imaging that moment? I hope not. I'm talking about the moment of death, as it happens. As a line from the movie Forgiven, 'Deserve has nothing to do with it.' Nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

If it serves to interpret my comments as in glorification of a child molester, well enough. I can only say that you misread. I'm talking about the reality of death itself.

I've seen a lot of deaths. How will it be when you die? Imagine your moment of death. Life is a series of surprises, and death, like birth, is a surprise as well. The Sand Pebbles, 'What happened?'
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Dead   Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:24 pm

Herzl, I'm not sure I understood a damn thing you said... I think we will get along just fine.
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