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Hermit

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PostSubject: I learned something today...   Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:33 pm

The drain hose on the washing machine must be above
the level of the tub or the fucker just drains and drains.
Oh well, the floor needed cleaning anyway.
Damn, Iím a dumbass. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:39 pm

This is why I don't do things like plumbing. The problems I run into seem so stupid after the fact but it never fails that I always run into them.

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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:44 pm

What's a washing "machine"... in canukville we call it a washing tub.
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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:49 pm

My plan was sound, but the execution was fundamentally flawed.
We're have septic tank trouble and may get not the plumber 'til after Christmas.
I thought I'd drain the washer into a big tub. I started the machine and went
to load a bowl. I figured by the time I got back, I could have a smoke and watch
the tub. Unfortunately, from the second I started the machine, the water was
draining almost as fast as it was filling. In the short time I neglected it, there was
a half inch of water in the laundry room, hall and kitchen. I stuffed the pipe into
my pocket and grabbed my floor sqeegee. After sending the tide out the door,
I got the shop vac and sucked up what was left. Then the leaf blower and mop.
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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:26 pm

You should have called a facilities person! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:08 pm

I am not laughing! But I am so glad it was you and not me. Very Happy

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Hermit

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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:29 pm

I got one break. It was in the upper 60s and sunny.
If it was raining and freezing, things wouldda been mo worser.
But now that that's over, I still have septic tank issues. pale
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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:24 am

Water damage doesn't seem all that terrible.... until you experienced it .

Hope it dries up quick...
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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:44 am

Slow Puffs wrote:
Water damage doesn't seem all that terrible.... until you experienced it .

Hope it dries up quick...

The humidity was pretty low today and everything
is dry now, and it was clean water from the washer.
I also cranked up the heat to further dry things up.

(However, I still have a backed up septic tank and I'm shittin' in a bucket.) Sad
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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:57 am

Hermit wrote:
The drain hose on the washing machine must be above
the level of the tub or the fucker just drains and drains.
Oh well, the floor needed cleaning anyway.
Damn, Iím a dumbass. Rolling Eyes

Congratulations on reinventing the siphon!

You plan will work, just put the tub on a table to raise the level of the exit hose. Back in the old days we used to run a hose out a window and onto the lawn (make sure you are not filling the septic system from the top though.)

good luck, and this will make you appreciate properly running plumbing.
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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:16 am

Al in Canada wrote:
Hermit wrote:
The drain hose on the washing machine must be above
the level of the tub or the fucker just drains and drains.
Oh well, the floor needed cleaning anyway.
Damn, Iím a dumbass. Rolling Eyes

Congratulations on reinventing the siphon!

You plan will work, just put the tub on a table to raise the level of the exit hose. Back in the old days we used to run a hose out a window and onto the lawn (make sure you are not filling the septic system from the top though.)

good luck, and this will make you appreciate properly running plumbing.

Once I figured out what I had done wrong, I raised the drain hose above the washer
and used the extention tubes from the shop vac to route the water out the door.
(but that doesn't solve my real problem.) Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:08 am

I saw yesterday that the neighbor next door has recently had his septic tank pumped. Maybe about time for us also. Cannot let those things go too long or the laterals get gunked up.

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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:18 am

Hermit wrote:
I stuffed the pipe into
my pocket and grabbed my floor sqeegee. After sending the tide out the door,
I got the shop vac and sucked up what was left. Then the leaf blower and mop.

Hey at least you reacted like a real man, you had the tools and you fixed it.
Way to go! (I didnt see duct tape on your list though.)

Had my septic tank pumped recently,, that is one job I don't think I could do, I'd be dry heaving all the time. The guy said he didnt think it had ever been pumped out (it's been in there for 50+ years). The only reason it needed it now was the cast iron exit Tee had rusted through an fell off causing solids to clog the line to the distribution box. They pumped it and fixed the Tee and now we are back in "business".
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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:30 pm

Since we're talkin' shit, how often should a septic tank be pumped? We've been in our house for about 7 years now and have never had it done. Do you wait 'til it really needs it or what? I grew up on city water and sewer so know little about these things. (2 adults the entire 7 years, 1 young'un added about 6 years ago and another added a year and 7 days ago if that matters, and I have no idea how big the tank is) I could handle a bucket for a week or so but i don't think the wife could.
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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:09 pm

Usually you don't need to do anything, the bacteria in the system breaks down the solids then it flows as liquid to a distribution box then out through drain lines in a "drain field" into the soil. Most of the time they don't need anything until something broke like mine, you'll notice a soft, wet, smelly spot in the yard, this is from "sewage seepage". It took a couple of months from the time I found it, dug up the top of the septic tank and got a crew over to pump it. We kept using it, it just smells bad and liquid sewage leaks out the top into your yard, fortunately I don't have close neighbors. Our system is unique as well, as the kitchen and laundry drain out into a ditch not into the septic tank as is usually the case, which is why it did'nt need pumped for so long. I think most can go for 10 to 20 years before needing pumped, depending on use.
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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:14 pm

I think it's wise to have it inspected and pumped every other year. But call a company in your area and ask. You do not want to have to install new laterals.

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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:49 pm

EJinVA wrote:

Way to go! (I didnt see duct tape on your list though.)

The duct tape held the washer drain hose in the shop vac tubes. Laughing

I got a guy out here this morning, "Rooster Lips."
The tank was full of solids and sludge.
All sucked out and flushing freely. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: I learned something today...   Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:59 am

Carlos wrote:
I think it's wise to have it inspected and pumped every other year. But call a company in your area and ask. You do not want to have to install new laterals.

Every other year is quite frequent, unless it is under a lot of strain, like handling a lot of crap, or under less than ideal conditions. I would think every five years is more reasonable. But, if you can't remember when, it is probably time.

In addition to how much you are putting through the system, you have to consider the local conditions of the soil, water level, acidity, etc. to determine how much attention the system requires. I "feed" my system regularly with bacterial packs, which are supposed to keep the system breaking down the materials more efficiently. YMMV

It is much cheaper to maintain than to repair, and to repair than to replace. This is especially so as many places have much more stringent rules about new systems than existing systems. And as you might guess, stringent translates into expensive.

If you can run your kitchen water into a separate "grease trap" digester you will save on the more expensive septic system, for your detergents and such are harder on the bacteria you depend on in the operating of the septic one.
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