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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:58 pm

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I find nothing in that photo or in that ad to be lascivious. Whether or not it leads you to lascivious thoughts is for you to decide, but to decide that it leads others to it is pretentious, really. And, that kind of thinking is also what detracts from freedom. I kind of like my freedom. I don't think this ad or this thread is stepping on anyone else's freedom or endangering anyone (as I'm not inclined towards perverse, ill intentioned addictions), so I'm rather inclined to think that's quite alright and proper, given the context.

Context is really where you separate appreciation from illness when it comes to the human body, wouldn't you think?

I agree....

I think it is impossible to govern what one considers tasteful or not. Who has the definitive answer to that?? What one may consider pornographic, another may consider art, or another just savvy advertising.

My take on THIS ad is this:

The lady's got a great butt, though perhaps not one which Cosmopolitan magazine would deem worthy. She does the BEST she can to be the best she can be, and she accepts herself for having what others might call shortcomings. She won't let what someone ELSE thinks keep her from feeling good about herself.

As a matter of fact that's what's kind of happening in this thread....

What one person might consider a nice looking woman professing a positive message is considered pornographic by another because the focus is on her butt....

It all depends on who you are.

Anyhow, the Nike Ad people ought to be commended, as this ad has definitely captured our interest- which was their entire point, hahaha.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:08 pm

Both posts, to my mind, pretty conclusively demonstrate that the network of instinctual agreements that made American more-or-less Christian culture what it once was has been sapped by those determined to rot it from the inside and having the time and resources to accomplish this.

The silver lining, IMHO, is that, as in the aftermath of the initial phase of Bolshevism in Russia and the Wiemar Republic in Germany, people finally get a belly full of it and clean house.

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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:45 pm

Bullshit Yak

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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:07 pm

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American more-or-less Christian culture what it once was
It was also considered oppressive, shortsighted, and dogmatic by many a God fearing man. The vacuum of nostalgia manages to air brush much of the dirt out. Forced restraint by the church on the members saved no more souls for their effort. Is the point to have Man find his way to God, or is it to create a society with morality governed by men who profess higher scruples than the lowly layman? I find more integrity in the man who decides for himself, using his own conscience, than in the man who tows someone else's line.

Makes for good conversation, eh?

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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:30 pm

Without the "x axis" and "y axis" of common values, there is no deciding what the course should be toward or how to measure it. Even of who "we" are (or aren't). What's right and what's wrong ? Anything goes, drift results and the shoals loom.

Go on all you like about how "oppressive" it was, but the USA, on a Christian foundation, was the freest country on earth. Unlike some, you don't have to base your sense of what the past was like on the lies the educational system has instilled in the younger folk (the same ones the Bolsheviks told the Russian kids). You're old enough to remember it, first hand.

And the more that that foundation has been attacked and laws passed against it, the more we've been reduced to being the feudal subjects of a police state.

The two are as related as recoil is to gunfire. You can't deny it. You've watched both go down, hand in hand. Outlaw the right of free association, and state-enforced bussing and government hijacking of business under the ruse of "affirmative action" quickly follows in consequence.

All the old cliches are true. That's why they're cliches.

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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:42 pm

Someone's been watching their Glenn Beck Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:08 pm

Is he a TV guy ?

My tube time (voluntary) (as opposed to being in the same room when it's on) is pretty much Stiller games.

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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:17 pm

He is the TV and radio equiv of an internet conspiracy site...
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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:23 am

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He is the TV and radio equiv of an internet conspiracy site...

That's how you see him?
You don't watch, do you?
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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:32 am

I can see this road getting bumpy quick... I'll take the chance while I can to bow out of this one before I end up hip deep in the muck Smile

To each his opinion, fight to the death for your right to say it, etc, etc - but here I just like to feel the leather of the chair and watch wisps of smoke rise and fade - debate over the police state clashes with the decor Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:25 pm

For a change I'll just sit back and read!!!!! it may be safer! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:11 pm

All of this because of an ad featuring a girl with a nice butt,,, scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:36 pm

mark wrote:
All of this because of an ad featuring a girl with a nice butt,,, scratch

A real nice butt, butt that's just my opinion...
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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:09 pm

Midnight Blues wrote:
mark wrote:
All of this because of an ad featuring a girl with a nice butt,,, scratch

A real nice butt, butt that's just my opinion...

Yeah, yeah, let's get back to THAT part..... Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:37 pm

That girl's butt is nice!!

You guys want to get all serious and turn it into a political discussion, that's pretty silly, IMO, but she is smokin'!!

Carry on. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:07 am

MisterE wrote:
Midnight Blues wrote:
mark wrote:
All of this because of an ad featuring a girl with a nice butt,,, scratch

A real nice butt, butt that's just my opinion...

Yeah, yeah, let's get back to THAT part..... Laughing
YEAH!...What they said! Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:15 am

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MisterE wrote:
Midnight Blues wrote:
mark wrote:
All of this because of an ad featuring a girl with a nice butt,,, scratch

A real nice butt, butt that's just my opinion...

Yeah, yeah, let's get back to THAT part..... Laughing
YEAH!...What they said! Cool

Ahhhhh yes!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Why Nike?   Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:15 pm

Rad is obvously a gentleman of distinguished wit and great intelligence!
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